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It's ok spec wise, about a middle class cpu, not very new either.. problem is the price tbh. The one i linked for instance is so far above this one from argos it isn't even funny. I'd rather deal with Box, who, while I've heard the stories, I've never had issues with in my limited dealings with them.

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Sorry about this and if i pay a little more i get i7 & Quad Core

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3178568.htm

Is this worth it, Basically i cant afford to lose this cash and just looking at reviews for that save on laptops ive not seen anything positive when theres been issues where as you big chains normally dont even quible so peace of mind is a big thing.

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Ok, then I'll just speak objectively about the laptops themselves.

The better deal is the i7 one for sure... it will breeze through FM and has enough about it to last you a good few years. It will also play pretty much any game you throw at it btw.

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So.. Lenovo vs Zoostorm lappy's....

Cpu : Zoostorm kicks the Lenovo's arse in every category despite being older apart from power consumption (see: battery life)

The only other reason I could see for going with the Lenovo, is having a more established brand and the fact it comes with a solid state hybrid drive, which will be slightly faster in terms of loading times etc than the zoostorm.

(graphics cards... not much point talking about them as it makes next to no difference regarding FM etc)

Hope this helps.

Just for the sake of argument too...

If you liked the Lenovo... you can get this:

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-z51-15-6-laptop-white-10134915-pdt.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAmeyxBRCJxoKk7IWLl2oSJABvZjhhZZC1_rZzUXyNXxCpaGopom0AlrUU6kHAmxjUH3fFRxoCxZvw_wcB&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!75234029539!!!g!127352580739!&ef_id=Vjv3JwAAAXVAC8ie:20151106004111:s

Which while really similar, is £100 cheaper and only about 10% slower in real world terms.. the graphics card isn't great either but for FM it's all good...

Just so you know what you can get.

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On a basic Level between the Zoostorm & Lenovo what would you choose, Cashback on the Lenovo i posted can amount to £200(£100 trade In & £100 what appears just straight cashback)?

No more options as im getting fed up myself now of looking at different Laptops so really appreciate your help as its not even for you, So which of the Lenovo and Zoostorm would you go for?

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hi guys, which configuration would you choose for FM16:

Intel Core i7 5500U Broadwell, RAM 8GB, AMD Radeon R5 M330 2GB

Intel Core i7 4558U Haswell, RAM 4GB, AMD Radeon R5 M230 2GB,

Intel Core i5 5200U Broadwell, RAM 8GB, NVIDIA GeForce 940M 2GB

All of them at the same price...no idea which one to go for.

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hi guys, which configuration would you choose for FM16:

Intel Core i7 5500U Broadwell, RAM 8GB, AMD Radeon R5 M330 2GB

Intel Core i7 4558U Haswell, RAM 4GB, AMD Radeon R5 M230 2GB,

Intel Core i5 5200U Broadwell, RAM 8GB, NVIDIA GeForce 940M 2GB

All of them at the same price...no idea which one to go for.

Intel Core i5 5200U Broadwell, RAM 8GB, NVIDIA GeForce 940M 2GB

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On a basic Level between the Zoostorm & Lenovo what would you choose, Cashback on the Lenovo i posted can amount to £200(£100 trade In & £100 what appears just straight cashback)?

No more options as im getting fed up myself now of looking at different Laptops so really appreciate your help as its not even for you, So which of the Lenovo and Zoostorm would you go for?

For me, the Lenovo, better build quality over all, although not hugely, I like the hybrid drive and the difference in performance between cpu's isn't large enough to warrant missing out on the potential cash back.

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Thanks

Welshace i will be looking to buy the Lenovo over the weekend and as a added bonus i can use my £350 of vouchers i have at John Lewis, Thanks very much for your help and i wont even be loading FM on to it until i get FM16.

Your a star and sorry for being a pain in the backside over last few days.

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Was thinking of getting this as a lightweight travel/living room laptop now I have a desktop PC rather than a large laptop

http://www.johnlewis.com/asus-zenbook-ux305-ultrabooks-intel-core-m-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-13-3-/p2115982?colour=Black

Any thoughts re FM? Obviously not all leagues.

  • CPU: 800MHz Intel Core M 5Y10 (dual-core, 4MB cache, 2GHz with Turbo Boost)
  • Graphics: HD Graphics 5300
  • RAM: 8GB DDR3
  • Storage: 128GB SSD

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It's an ultrabook cpu, so they aren't designed for applications as intensive as FM .. they are low frequency too, which means even though they boost up to 2GHZ, that will degrade super fast playing FM..

I wouldn't go anywhere near it for FM.

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Welshace i will be looking to buy the Lenovo over the weekend and as a added bonus i can use my £350 of vouchers i have at John Lewis, Thanks very much for your help and i wont even be loading FM on to it until i get FM16.

Your a star and sorry for being a pain in the backside over last few days.

Happy to help.. Let me know how you get on with it.

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I am completely out of the loop with building custom PC's now. I'm looking to build myself a gaming rig that will last for the next 4 or so years comfortably. I don't even know where to begin looking now. Any help would be appreciated. Was looking to spend £6-700 if possible.

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I am completely out of the loop with building custom PC's now. I'm looking to build myself a gaming rig that will last for the next 4 or so years comfortably. I don't even know where to begin looking now. Any help would be appreciated. Was looking to spend £6-700 if possible.

What does that budget include? monitor? OS? Have anything you already have to recycle?

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It's an ultrabook cpu, so they aren't designed for applications as intensive as FM .. they are low frequency too, which means even though they boost up to 2GHZ, that will degrade super fast playing FM..

I wouldn't go anywhere near it for FM.

OK thanks

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What does that budget include? monitor? OS? Have anything you already have to recycle?

I've got a monitor, mouse, keyboard and OS (so long as I can find my product key...). Currently running AMD Athlon II X4 640 Processor 3.0GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560, 8GB RAM. The case is old and battered, whole thing sounds like a plane taking off and is incredibly slow upon startup. Gets louder and louder whilst playing games.

Toying with the idea of a completely new build vs replacing older parts. How much of an impact does an older harddrive have on the overall speed, thinking that could be part of the issue?

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Hey Paok ... the game will automatically set graphics in game for you.. but with that I would be surprised if you can't run it on full.

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I've got a monitor, mouse, keyboard and OS (so long as I can find my product key...). Currently running AMD Athlon II X4 640 Processor 3.0GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560, 8GB RAM. The case is old and battered, whole thing sounds like a plan taking off and is incredibly slow upon startup. Gets louder and louder whilst playing games.

Toying with the idea of a completely new build vs replacing older parts. How much of an impact does an older harddrive have on the overall speed, thinking that could be part of the issue?

It can be a bottleneck just like anything else, but less so than most components tbh, that being said, storage is so damn cheap now, it would be silly not to upgrade it.

As for the build, honestly, when you have that much budget and don't need and OS, monitor etc, you have all the choice in the world. There are dozens of builds we could throw together but at the end of the day, the best thing to do is look into what you want to do with it yourself, and research. Start with the CPU, get yourself a future proof compatible Mobo and build from there with some decent speed ram, 8 GB minimum, graphics card etc.

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Hey Paok ... the game will automatically set graphics in game for you.. but with that I would be surprised if you can't run it on full.

In FM15 with this laptop i play at medium setting.If i try to play it with high or very high it will be lagged

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In FM15 with this laptop i play at medium setting.If i try to play it with high or very high it will be lagged

Then that is a good indicator on how it will perform for fm16.

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It can be a bottleneck just like anything else, but less so than most components tbh, that being said, storage is so damn cheap now, it would be silly not to upgrade it.

As for the build, honestly, when you have that much budget and don't need and OS, monitor etc, you have all the choice in the world. There are dozens of builds we could throw together but at the end of the day, the best thing to do is look into what you want to do with it yourself, and research. Start with the CPU, get yourself a future proof compatible Mobo and build from there with some decent speed ram, 8 GB minimum, graphics card etc.

When it comes to CPU and motherboards I have no idea what I'm looking for. Graphics card wise I'm pretty sure I'll be going for a GTX 970, no point going higher as I only have a 1080p monitor.

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I am completely out of the loop with building custom PC's now. I'm looking to build myself a gaming rig that will last for the next 4 or so years comfortably. I don't even know where to begin looking now. Any help would be appreciated. Was looking to spend £6-700 if possible.
I've got a monitor, mouse, keyboard and OS (so long as I can find my product key...). Currently running AMD Athlon II X4 640 Processor 3.0GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560, 8GB RAM. The case is old and battered, whole thing sounds like a plane taking off and is incredibly slow upon startup. Gets louder and louder whilst playing games.

Toying with the idea of a completely new build vs replacing older parts. How much of an impact does an older harddrive have on the overall speed, thinking that could be part of the issue?

Could be the hard drive - hard to know - likely the fan.

Unplug and take off the case and buy a can of compressed air - about £5 and spray all the components.

Don't touch off anything though - with hands or anything else.

See if that helps.

I haven't gone through this in detail but something like this

That would last well beyond your 4 years. It's also easy enough to update components - I reckon. Again not gone through details.

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4460 (3.2GHz) 6MB Cache

Motherboard

ASUS® H81M-PLUS: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs

Memory (RAM)

16GB Kingston DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 950 - 2 x DVI, HDMI, DP

1st Hard Disk

240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Power Supply

CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY

Processor Cooling

Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler (£19)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Wireless/Wired Networking

10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

USB Options

MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Price: £699.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/xhIsAfna2D/

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Bare in mind that's pre built, I assume he wants to build himself, which would mean he could squeeze more out of his budget than that.

Not that it isn't a good build, it's decent by anyone's standards

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Any MacBook Pro 2015 retina 13" users?

Looking at getting one for Christmas. I know it's gonna be absolutely fine but curious as to how it runs with a LOT of leagues etc.

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Makes me cry when people say they are going to get a macbook ... so much money wasted :(

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Thinking of getting this laptop hoping to play 5 leagues with large database and want fast game play.

http://www.centrecom.com.au/acer-e5-573-77hc-156-hd-display-intel-core-i7-5500u-8gb-ram-1tb-hdd-dvdrw-windows-81-1-year-warranty

Or should I spend an extra $100 to get a better graphics card mind I manly only play watching in 2d. The only other thing we will do with the laptop is watching movies so not sure if the graphics card will effect that.

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That will run 5 leagues no problem imo..

Also, the onboard gfx card on that should run 3d fine I think

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1st Hard Disk

240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)

I don't recommend the Kingston V300 ssd! there are a lot of faulty ones!

I would choose either the samsung 840/850 or the kingston hyperx but not the v300.

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Any MacBook Pro 2015 retina 13" users?

Looking at getting one for Christmas. I know it's gonna be absolutely fine but curious as to how it runs with a LOT of leagues etc.

My 2013 model handles it perfectly but my brand new 2015 machine is full of bugs. Reported them all here so hopefully all fixed before the official release date otherwise I've wasted my money this year.

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How will Fm16 perform on this?

http://www.johnlewis.com/lenovo-yoga-500-15-convertible-laptop-intel-core-i7-8gb-ram-1tb-8gb-sshd-15-6-touch-screen-black/p2109062

Will be using mostly for fm16.

Lots of leagues and speed is most important.

3D games is not so important.

Any help/better suggestions most welcome.

Budget is up to about £750.

Thanks in advance

Does it need to be from any specific retailers? (i.e J.Lewis because you have vouchers etc) and does it need to be convertible as per your link?

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No not from a particular retailer nor specifically convertible. Would prefer a reputable brand though.

Your thoughts on that model as well as other suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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The one above is pretty good, it would certainly cover your needs for FM, although if you are buying one mainly for FM and not really anything other pressing, you would do better concentrating on a different laptop without the convertible screen. Having said that.. a touchscreen laptop with a convertible screen might be perfect for FM and make it portable when needed.

As a comparison, I just found this : http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/prestige-intel-core-i7-5700hq-8gb-1tb-nvidia-gtx-950m-2gb-dedicated-graph-9s7-16h614-049/version.asp

Cheaper, has a greatly superior cpu (which is everything for fm) (see :http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5500U-vs-Intel-5700HQ)

Same Ram

Same amount of storage (although you do miss out on the hybrid drive from the lenovo, which means slower laptop loading times (only loading up the laptop itself mind)

Dedicated graphics (which I understand isn't a priority, but always useful)

As always, it all comes down to a matter of choice, when you spend money like this, I always think it's important to understand your own needs and cater for that rather than take blind suggestions from strangers on the internet :)

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New one with Windows 10?

No MacBook Pro 2015 model. I've reported everything to the bugs forum and uploaded system reports and screen shares to the FTP so hopefully all the bugs, or at least the serious ones, will be fixed within a week.

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Could be the hard drive - hard to know - likely the fan.

Unplug and take off the case and buy a can of compressed air - about £5 and spray all the components.

Don't touch off anything though - with hands or anything else.

See if that helps.

I haven't gone through this in detail but something like this

That would last well beyond your 4 years. It's also easy enough to update components - I reckon. Again not gone through details.

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4460 (3.2GHz) 6MB Cache

Motherboard

ASUS® H81M-PLUS: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs

Memory (RAM)

16GB Kingston DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 950 - 2 x DVI, HDMI, DP

1st Hard Disk

240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Power Supply

CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY

Processor Cooling

Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler (£19)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Wireless/Wired Networking

10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

USB Options

MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Price: £699.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/xhIsAfna2D/

Yeah I am able to build myself so no issue on construction. Thanks for the input, I'm probably going to opt against a SSD to start with as I'd rather the space primarily. What is it you should look for in a processor though? I always believed it was Speed and cores, in which I thought my current one would be standing me in better stead than it is currently.

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Speed and cores yes, but architecture improves so does efficiency and speed..

Generally speaking, I prefer intel over amd currently and you're looking at i5 or i7's .. i7's generally are considered better in most cases..

Basically, all you need to do is get on google and research them within your budget.

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Is anyone playing on i5 4670 or 4690? Any recommendations on number of leagues/players? Choosing the same amount of leagues and db size as I did in FM13 on Q6600 with 4gb of RAM shows estimated game speed as 3 stars (on Q6600 it was 2 stars iirc). Quite disappointing.

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As a comparison, I just found this : http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/prestige-intel-core-i7-5700hq-8gb-1tb-nvidia-gtx-950m-2gb-dedicated-graph-9s7-16h614-049/version.asp

Cheaper, has a greatly superior cpu (which is everything for fm) (see :http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5500U-vs-Intel-5700HQ)

Same Ram

Same amount of storage (although you do miss out on the hybrid drive from the lenovo, which means slower laptop loading times (only loading up the laptop itself mind)

Dedicated graphics (which I understand isn't a priority, but always useful)

As always, it all comes down to a matter of choice, when you spend money like this, I always think it's important to understand your own needs and cater for that rather than take blind suggestions from strangers on the internet :)

Welshace, I've been reading this thread for a while and your advice to users like myself, who are considering a new laptop, is really valuable. If I can chime in with a question too, do you know if the laptop you linked above would be good for Photoshop and Lightroom too? They plus FM16 would be the main uses of my next laptop and I'm hoping to find something in this sort of budget that could handle both. Obviously I would need a good quality screen as well as processing power, and wondered if you've come across a laptop that would do a good job for me?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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I mostly link to 15.6 inch screens as it's probably the most widely used at a budget..

It would depend on what you want to do with those programs.. to clarify, I mean, general photoshop work isn't that intensive, but when you take into account image editing and processing, you'd ideally want a very decent screen, a decent graphics card and a good SSD (as you are usually calling 100's if not 1000's of high res image files into and out of PS).

So for image editing/processing you are looking at a more specialised laptop. That being said, the same things that make a laptop great for image editing will also be great for FM.

So as with everything it would depend on budget, baring in mind you might be paying extra for the functionality to image process efficiently.

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As an example, I've just thrown this together, which is of a similar budget but caters more to what you need..

Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte HD+ LED 16:9 Widescreen (1600x900) *larger HD screen*

Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4710MQ (2.50GHz) 6MB *quad core, multithreading*

16GB HyperX IMPACT 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 8GB) *More than enough ram, more than you need infact and good quality*

INTEL® HD GRAPHICS MEDIA ACCELERATOR 4600 *Not a dedicated graphics card, but capable, can swap in a graphics card in lieu of ram etc if necessary*

480GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W) *480GB of space, but in SSD form, important when image editing*

Price : £760.00

Which was made on pcspecialist btw.

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