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Do you mean change it from GPU to Software on FM in the preferences cos I have already changed it to software straight away, might change it to GPU and see how it goes.

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looking to buy a surface pro at the moment. How well does the game work with touch controls? Is the windows version of FMC fully touch compatible?

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Hi all, I bought a Toshiba Satellite series laptop 4 years ago with an i3 processor and 3GB RAM.

I'm looking to replace this in the next couple of weeks, but I have one question to anyone who has a Toshiba laptop of recent vintage: how quiet is it?

Let me explain - my Toshiba is NOISY. I mean "Heathrow flightpath" noisy. I mean "getting sent out of the room so the wife can hear Coronation Street noisy". And not just while playing FM (although it's probably at its worst then), but also during general web browsing.

So, before I consider a Toshiba again (which has, apart from that issue, been a fantastic laptop), does anyone else have a similar experience?

IVe had an old Toshiba granted it was a 6 yo laptop and was louder than most but not constant. I would say open her up (not the wife) and check the fans for dirt/dust build up this is common on laptops to get clogged up with dust causing the fans to go nuts!

I really like the build quality of the Toshiba I had, I have an HP now which I do love but even that can be noisy sometimes!

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looking to buy a surface pro at the moment. How well does the game work with touch controls? Is the windows version of FMC fully touch compatible?

It will work on Surface Pro, but don't expect anything amazing, as the game is not designed to be touch screen optimised, and last I heard, they have no plans to.

But you can plug a mouse into the Surface Pro so it should be ok.

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It will work on Surface Pro, but don't expect anything amazing, as the game is not designed to be touch screen optimised, and last I heard, they have no plans to.

But you can plug a mouse into the Surface Pro so it should be ok.

I'm running FM on a Surface Pro 3 and it runs fine. The touchscreen works fine, quite often I find the Surface Pen actually works better than a mouse for anything that requires dragging--substitutions, tactics creation, that sort of thing. I find, though, the Surface heats up quite a lot running FM. I've got the version with the i7 processor, and I'm running ten countries/thirty leagues with a medium database in my current save without too many issues. My previous save I ran sixteen countries/45 leagues on a medium database and I think that just about maxed out the processing capabilities. If I ran FM for too long at a sitting the whole machine would actually shut down due to the heat, so I had to watch that, and progressing day to day was pretty slow.

Surface Pro runs a full version of Windows therefore full FM can be run.

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Good to hear from a Surface pro user.

It's not ideal to run FM on it, as you mention it overheats.

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Looking to buy a new laptop as current laptop is painfully slow. Not got much clue when it comes to laptops and am looking for a laptop that will run FM fast. Have been looking at this:

Lenovo Flex 2-15

Intel® Core™ i5 Processor

8Gb RAM

1Tb Hard Drive

Graphics: N15V-GM DDR3L 2Gb dedicated

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Yeh not much to go on there, have you got a link to the computer?

What's your budget?

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What do you think of this? I run 3D but nothing great and usually run a couple of leagues with a database of about 25,000http://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/Product/partNumber/1458833.htm

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Hi

My HP Pavillion is about 4 years old. It's noisy and I'm getting an error 90B (fans have failed) when I switch it on first time (when I switch it on 2nd time I never get this warning and it seems to function OK). It's been like this for about a month but I know it's not long for this world, so I want to purchase a new one. I have tried blowing air in to loosen up the fans, but taking it apart seems the only way to fix this - and frankly I think I'll cause more damage. So a new one it is.

I only use my laptop for general internet, emails, watching movies, youtube etc. Nothing pushes it too much. Just FM with 5 leagues running and about 40K players, 3D match engine etc. - it gets hot and is noisy (grrr,grrr,grrr etc. Driving me mad!)

So imagine money was no object and I needed a PC to comfortably run FM and not much else that was particularly CPU intensive, and more importantly, did it quietly. What would be the recommendations from the experts here? Appreciate some guidance. (Don't want a Mac btw)

I live in Sweden by the way and UK and US laptop nomenclature (numbers) are not the same territory to territory so links would be good if that's possible so I can find out the equivalent Swedish model....

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Sorry to bump this but...

That top one, I need a new laptop and have no idea what to get...my budget is £700 can anyone else confirm that the top link is a bloody good laptop for football manager, Internet browsing and Microsoft office?

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Sorry to bump this but...

That top one, I need a new laptop and have no idea what to get...my budget is £700 can anyone else confirm that the top link is a bloody good laptop for football manager, Internet browsing and Microsoft office?

Actually it says no operating system installed/included!!

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What do you mean it has none included? It has Windows 8.1 from what I read.

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Sorry to bump this but...

That top one, I need a new laptop and have no idea what to get...my budget is £700 can anyone else confirm that the top link is a bloody good laptop for football manager, Internet browsing and Microsoft office?

I've got a similar one, the GS60 2PC. I'd say the only downside is probably battery life, but yeah, it's a very good machine to run FM. That one above has a slightly better GPU than the one I have too.

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What do you mean it has none included? It has Windows 8.1 from what I read.

Jesus that is new as it said no operating system yesterday! Think I will buy it...heard some bad reviews about windows 8 and with windows 10 out soon I was reluctant to buy but having to consider no FM2015 til end of July is killing me...

Neil when you say battery life...how short are we talking? I'm sat near a charger plug 99% of the time and anything over 1hour without being charged I'd be fine with. Sorry for sounding dumb but I'm assuming things like Microsoft word etc will run just as we'll with a gaming laptop? Thanks.

Edit: bought :)

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If it's plugged in 99% of the time you don't need to worry about battery life. Batteries come in 6 cell and 9 cell, the latter being the battery that lasts longer, but only applies when it's not plugged in.

Nothing wrong with Windows 8 except the hideous Tile layout, which can be turned off and use the same as it looks in Windows 7.

Glad you bought! It's a rocking laptop.

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Are Microsoft still planning to give all Windows 7 & 8 users a free upgrade to the Windows 10? Should alleviate any concerns about using W8.1

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Yes, you can update from Windows 7 or Windows 8 and Windows 8 Tablet to Windows 10 for free - as long as it's within 1 year of the release of Windows 10.

And something really strange, they're even willing to give Windows 10 to everyone with those versions, even if their current copy of Windows is pirated.

There really shouldn't be any concerns using Windows 8 - it's usually just hogwash from people not familiar with the system or have read a napkin that their uncles dog wrote a review on Windows 8.

More here about the versions of Windows 7 and 8 that are excluded - plus some info on hardware required etc.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2873214/windows-10-will-be-a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-users.html

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I was using Windows 8 at work, it took a little getting used to at first but after a few weeks I started to prefer using it to my other machine which was using Windows 7.

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Similar to FM - with each new edition there's a changed interface, and we all know they take a while to get used to.

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Hi. This post is great but a bit big. Any chance a few members could summarise the best laptop for fm2015 for budget (less than £300), £500, and over £900 please.

This page seems to provide a guide for the over £900 but what about the other two price ranges?

http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/best-gaming-laptops-top-5-gaming-notebooks-reviewed-1258471

Many thanks.

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Anyone seen any good deals for laptops between 650-800. Looking for the best I can get with that sort of money at the moment. Will be used for games like Battlefield etc etc.

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Eugene and barside, thank you for this vital piece of information regarding the free upgrade to windows 10.

Update on the laptop: I ordered it via my I pad, chose for Saturday delivery however received an email Friday afternoon saying my order has been cancelled due to them being unable to accept liability by the bank. Called them up mystified and they explained that the order can only go through if having bought via internet explorer or Firefox, not safari....never heard of this but hey ho, waiting for money to be refunded before purchasing again, this time from a desktop. Bloomin' bank holiday weekends!

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http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16GD11-1464-MSI-CX61-2PF-1464UK_1723738.html

Thats at the lowest end of your budget, is that any good for you.

Is that one better than this one? http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16GH21-1015-MSI-GP60-2QE%28Leopard%29-1015UK_1754574.html

I know it is quad core processor rather this one being dual core but is there much difference between the two apart from that? Your one looks like you get more for your money? Sorry for all the questions just want to get this decision right as I'll be ordering tomorrow!

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Hi. This post is great but a bit big. Any chance a few members could summarise the best laptop for fm2015 for budget (less than £300), £500, and over £900 please.

This page seems to provide a guide for the over £900 but what about the other two price ranges?

http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/best-gaming-laptops-top-5-gaming-notebooks-reviewed-1258471

Many thanks.

Under 300

i3 or less

4gb ram

500

i5 or low end i7

4-8gb ram

Graphics Card optional but not necessary

900

i7 or more powerful

mid to high range graphics card

8gb ram +

Anyone seen any good deals for laptops between 650-800. Looking for the best I can get with that sort of money at the moment. Will be used for games like Battlefield etc etc.

This is awesome

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-175A12-640-MSI-GP70-2QE%28Leopard%29-640UK_1754578.html

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16GD11-1464-MSI-CX61-2PF-1464UK_1723738.html

Thats at the lowest end of your budget, is that any good for you.

This is also pretty good

Hi, having been told Chromebooks are not compatible with FM, I was looking at this one,

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/laptops/refurbished-laptops/hp-pavilion-15-p189sa-refurbished-15-6-laptop-white-10075549-pdt.html

Would this be suffice?

Thanx in advance

PVP

Not sure - it doesn't go to a specific computer.

Eugene and barside, thank you for this vital piece of information regarding the free upgrade to windows 10.

Update on the laptop: I ordered it via my I pad, chose for Saturday delivery however received an email Friday afternoon saying my order has been cancelled due to them being unable to accept liability by the bank. Called them up mystified and they explained that the order can only go through if having bought via internet explorer or Firefox, not safari....never heard of this but hey ho, waiting for money to be refunded before purchasing again, this time from a desktop. Bloomin' bank holiday weekends!

Weird, never heard of that.

Is that one better than this one? http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16GH21-1015-MSI-GP60-2QE%28Leopard%29-1015UK_1754574.html

I know it is quad core processor rather this one being dual core but is there much difference between the two apart from that? Your one looks like you get more for your money? Sorry for all the questions just want to get this decision right as I'll be ordering tomorrow!

What now?

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Under 300

i3 or less

4gb ram

500

i5 or low end i7

4-8gb ram

Graphics Card optional but not necessary

900

i7 or more powerful

mid to high range graphics card

8gb ram +

This is awesome

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-175A12-640-MSI-GP70-2QE%28Leopard%29-640UK_1754578.html

This is also pretty good

Not sure - it doesn't go to a specific computer.

Weird, never heard of that.

What now?

Sorry that was a bit of a cryptic message. I've just ordered this one http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16GD11-1464-MSI-CX61-2PF-1464UK_1723738.html purely because I like the sound of quad core processors without really understanding what they do (doh!) I know the graphics card is slightly worse than the similar model you posted the other day but I don't really play any other games on my laptop other than football manager so I'm sure it'll be more than efficient for me. Thanks for your help!

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It's ok - it's not that bad.

A faster processor would have been better.

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What to look for if I want to buy a new laptop that will run FM with little or no noise?

Have a Lenovo Intel ® Core i7-3537U CPU @2.00GHZ 2.50 GHz, 64 bit system - 8GB RAM

and the noise is killing my wife

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You'd want something with a decent cooling system.

What's your budget.

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In addition, an SSD could help.

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Before you even consider a new purchase just give your current laptop a clean out with a can of air, an increase in noise could be simply down to a build up of dust that is forcing the the cooling fans to kick into a higher rpm much earlier & more frequently than would normally be expected.

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Hello, this isn't laptop related, but more of a general question about the running the game.

I have a low end PC (runs 3D on low with fine FPS) and I'm happy with how it runs FM. I have NEVER experienced a crash/crash dump/anything on both FM's I've played, 14 and 15. But I see that others have issues with crash dumps/crashes/whatever.

I'm looking at upgrading to a fully fledged gaming PC soon, for other games. Is it possible that with the move over to a higher powered system I could be opening myself up to experiencing crash dumps/etc. like others do compared to experiencing none in 100's of hours gameplay on my current PC? Or will performance only get better the higher the performance of my PC. Really enjoy my current crash-less experience and don't want to start making 87 rolling saves every 10 minutes I play.

Thanks for any help.

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You'd want something with a decent cooling system.

What's your budget.In addition, an SSD could help.

? around £900k-£1000k

Would I need just a SSD or a combo of SSD and an "ordinary" harddisk? When I look at the laptops with just a SSD they are on 250/500 most of the time, which seems a bit on short to me (my laptop are filled with just below 300 GB atm

How do you see if it is decent cooling system? anything to look after?

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Chassis & Display

Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™i5 Dual Core Mobile Processor i5-4340M (2.90GHz) 3MB

Memory (RAM)

8GB KINGSTON SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 840M - 2.0GB DDR3 Video RAM - DirectX® 11

Memory - Hard Disk

240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (€13)

Price: €1,033.00 including VAT and delivery.

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/cosmosII-17/3ZtONkfTsW/

Something like this

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Yeh it's quite pricey but would be well built and quieter, the thermal paste isn't expensive.

It's quite a high end processor, hoping that would be able to process more and therefore hopefully not have to churn as much.

Your one is about the same price and the processor is a bit slower. But it's quite good all the same.

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Passmark ranks the i7-4710HQ at 179 & the i5 4340M in 334, lower of course being being better.

The i7 is a quad core that uses HT to create a virtual 8 core cpu whereas the i5 is a dual core with HT to create a virtual quad core which is important for FM, the base & T/B frequencies are much less important & when comparing two cpu's with different core numbers & it is not a comparison that should be made when the frequency values are so close.

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I agree the i7 Quad Core is a better processor, marginally.

It's too close to call. In essence when using all cores in either it will be about 3.3gz at boost speeds.

The base speeds are too far a part for me to be happy with the i7, I'd prefer the i5 as it has a faster base speed.

This is about finding a quiet computer, not the best processor. The i5 processor is pretty decent processor for FM.

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What am I talking about - of course the I7 is the superior processor... geez I need coffee.

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New laptop has arrived tonight! Spent the last hour or so setting it up. Bit gutted it's taken two attempts to load football manager so far, first time got to the main screen... tried to add a custom skin and the screen just went black and stayed black....the second time it was stuck on the 'loading (in several languages) page and never actually made it to the home screen....here's to third time lucky!

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Try updating your graphic drivers.

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Will the new Core M processors run FM at a somewhat decent speed? See i.e. Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro and Asus UX305? I know the Core M isn't really suited for gaming, but will it work..?

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I agree the i7 Quad Core is a better processor, marginally.

It's too close to call. In essence when using all cores in either it will be about 3.3gz at boost speeds.

The base speeds are too far a part for me to be happy with the i7, I'd prefer the i5 as it has a faster base speed.

This is about finding a quiet computer, not the best processor. The i5 processor is pretty decent processor for FM.

yeah about finding a quiet laptop that will run FM without any trouble

would there be a lot of difference if the budget were £600 instead of £1000? are the extra money spend value for money?

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Will the new Core M processors run FM at a somewhat decent speed? See i.e. Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro and Asus UX305? I know the Core M isn't really suited for gaming, but will it work..?

Don't know who told you that? It's the M processor stands for Mobile, and MQ stands for Mobile Quad Core. There can be very good Mobile Processors out there, you just have to research them.

And there's the MX edition which is Mobile Extreme.

And there's the Mobile processor under HQ definitions, which is a mobile processor with High Quality Graphics.

Desktop processors are listed under K, R, S, T - (Unlocked, BGA1364 high quality graphics, Performance optimised, and the last one is Power Optimised).

yeah about finding a quiet laptop that will run FM without any trouble

would there be a lot of difference if the budget were £600 instead of £1000? are the extra money spend value for money?

Yes of course.

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PC Specialists are very good.

But most come with a warranty for at least a year, and you can buy a longer warranty.

The websites don't do after sales technical help. You'll need your warranty and serial number and contact the manufactures of the computer.

The only thing the sales websites would help with is delivery or anything wrong when it was delivered.

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