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i just want the best fastest most powerful laptop without payiung the 8000 for the predator. alienware r5 seems to win in most benchmarks and they arnt overpriced compared to msi or the aorus x9 they are 4000 compared to 3100 to 3500.

i love the xps 15  is ok but it struggles to play new games 

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2 minutes ago, jamessmith010101 said:

i just want the best fastest most powerful laptop without payiung the 8000 for the predator. alienware r5 seems to win in most benchmarks and they arnt overpriced compared to msi or the aorus x9 they are 4000 compared to 3100 to 3500.

i love the xps 15  is ok but it struggles to play new games 

I still don't know what your budget is? Are you in the UK? 

 

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3 minutes ago, jamessmith010101 said:

yeah in the uk. dont really have a budget i just want the best 

Chassis & Display
Vortex Series: 17.3" Matte 4K IPS 60Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (3840x2160) (No G-Sync)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache

Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 3000MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
2 x NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 - 8.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DX 12.1
1st Hard Disk
NOT REQUIRED
2nd Hard Disk
1TB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND

Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ WIRELESS-AC 1550 M.2 GAMING 802.11AC + BLUETOOTH 5.0


Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days


Price £3,696.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/vortexviii-17/g9esvjzhxV/
 
You can configure things like your Anti-Virus - Browser and other things before buying.
 
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Case
COOLERMASTER COSMOS C700P TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 10 Core Processor i9-7900X (3.3GHz) 13.75MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte X299 AORUS Gaming 3 PRO: ATX, USB 3.1, SATA 6 GB/s - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready! ()
1st Hard Disk
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3230MB/sR | 1625MB/sW)
Intel Optane Memory
32GB INTEL® OPTANE MEMORY - USE WITH MECHANICAL HDD
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CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
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1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
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Corsair H115i PRO Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans
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COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
5x CoolerMaster MasterFan Pro 120 RGB + Controller Kit
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster ZxR 5.1 PCI-E Soundcard
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
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Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
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United Kingdom - English Language
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Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
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FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
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BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
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Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
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3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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Standard Build - Approximately 11 to 13 working days
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So the first one so.

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apologies i didnt see the link. that one looks ok but looks like the msi has basically the same build but is more expensive for less specs and scores less in the benchmark. reason im looking at the alienware is at the mo its 3200 for the 32 gig rig with the i9. although the mobile i9 is just an overclocked i7 latest model it still scores better than the latest i7 mobile chip

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the only thing i can see that can compare is the dell g7. its 32 gig with the i9 but doesnt quite compare graphically but is 1000 cheaper but you cant get it here for some reason

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10 minutes ago, CalumJL32 said:

It seems too good for the price am I missing something? What's the catch?

Doesn't seem too good for the price to me.  I think the catch is, it's not the absolute best cpu, has only a 1050ti and no ssd.

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3 minutes ago, priority76 said:

Doesn't seem too good for the price to me.  I think the catch is it's not the absolute best cpu, has only a 1050ti and no ssd.

1050ti is good. I'd mainly play FM and how important is SSD

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10 minutes ago, jamessmith010101 said:

apologies i didnt see the link. that one looks ok but looks like the msi has basically the same build but is more expensive for less specs and scores less in the benchmark. reason im looking at the alienware is at the mo its 3200 for the 32 gig rig with the i9. although the mobile i9 is just an overclocked i7 latest model it still scores better than the latest i7 mobile chip

You won't get more gain from the i9 - it's a bit of a waste for FM. 

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Just now, CalumJL32 said:

1050ti is good. I'd mainly play FM and how important is SSD

Yeah definitely good enough for FM, but not an expensive gpu, relatively speaking.  Just saying that's probably why it's the price it is.

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6 minutes ago, CalumJL32 said:

1050ti is good. I'd mainly play FM and how important is SSD

For FM not important. For overall computer speed, yes recommended.

As it's a desktop you can change that at a later date anyway.

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yeah i know for fm wise the alien ware is a bit overkill but i want to play the latest games on it as well and i bought star citizen ages ago and took part in the testing then they patched it and the xps 15 chuggs so i want to play that again and other latest games. while i have the money im gonna buy the best i can 

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1 minute ago, jamessmith010101 said:

yeah i know for fm wise the alien ware is a bit overkill but i want to play the latest games on it as well and i bought star citizen ages ago and took part in the testing then they patched it and the xps 15 chuggs so i want to play that again and other latest games. while i have the money im gonna buy the best i can 

If you're happy with it then go for it. 

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1 minute ago, priority76 said:

Just having a lookie on save on laptops.  Does this:

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JBE2-1269-MSI-GL62MVR-7RFX-1269UK_2304758.html

look like pretty much the same laptop as this:

https://www.box.co.uk/FX503VM-EN184T-ASUS-FX503VM-EN184T_2315679.html

but for £40 less.  Or am I missing something?

Both roughly the same - the MSI slightly better on battery and slighly lighter.

But you get a laptop bag with the Asus. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Otis said:

What laptop are you using at the moment? @Smurf

This is exactly what I have. https://www.ubuy.ie/en/catalog/product/view/id/8882442?gclid=CjwKCAjwoMPcBRAWEiwAiAqZhxYhBiU8T3qIxLbxU-OedXdwFIQ0dDibAampPYPibzryjmY9R40KuhoCaPkQAvD_BwE

 

Just now, jamessmith010101 said:

@Smurf i heard fm will play better if played from a ssd rather than a standard drive ? is that true ?

No.

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So, I'm on the hunt for a new laptop.

I want something that's portable (university is an hour away on the London Underground), has a decent battery life (I also do some work that requires a bit of travelling around the South East, would be great to be usable on the train without charging worries), and if I'm using in a quiet area doesn't sound like it's about to blow up (I was looking at the Recoil II until I saw reviews about fan and the mechanical keyboard noises). I've had a look around PC Specialists, but most of the configuration stuff is just words to me really.

I have a pretty good PC Desktop which will be my main thing to run games on, however there is a good chance in a couple of years time I'll be doing a masters in Germany in which case I wouldn't want to lug a great stonking PC across Europe. I'm not looking for something that runs the latest biggest and baddest titles on Ultra + settings for everything, but I would like to be able to run FM, EU4, Civ6, Fortnite and maybe the occasional bigger title (a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout maybe). There will be quite a bit of use from excel, word, browsing, videos and basic statistical programmes also.

My budget is as cheap as possible (preferably three figures), but at the same time I could probably stretch £1,500. I want something value wise that does a job to meet the requirements, but at the same time if there's a must have that will last 10 years or there's nothing decent at lower costs then I'm happy to not eat for a week! I don't really have much computer knowledge regarding specs etc. (I found out yesterday that SSDs exist...), so I'm unsure even what sort of price range is reasonable for my requirements. 

Any help would be much appreciated. 

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Both roughly the same - the MSI slightly better on battery and slighly lighter.

But you get a laptop bag with the Asus. 

Thankyou very much.  Looks like the MSI is our new winner then...for now.

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@Smurf I am looking for a laptop which I will only be using for football manager.

I play in 2D with around 6/7 leagues usually. Does this mean the graphics card isn’t an issue?

My budget is around £600. Would like a couple of options with regards screen size if possible? Thanks

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32 minutes ago, CalumJL32 said:

Looks good.

2 minutes ago, FrancisM89 said:

So, I'm on the hunt for a new laptop.

I want something that's portable (university is an hour away on the London Underground), has a decent battery life (I also do some work that requires a bit of travelling around the South East, would be great to be usable on the train without charging worries), and if I'm using in a quiet area doesn't sound like it's about to blow up (I was looking at the Recoil II until I saw reviews about fan and the mechanical keyboard noises). I've had a look around PC Specialists, but most of the configuration stuff is just words to me really.

I have a pretty good PC Desktop which will be my main thing to run games on, however there is a good chance in a couple of years time I'll be doing a masters in Germany in which case I wouldn't want to lug a great stonking PC across Europe. I'm not looking for something that runs the latest biggest and baddest titles on Ultra + settings for everything, but I would like to be able to run FM, EU4, Civ6, Fortnite and maybe the occasional bigger title (a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout maybe). There will be quite a bit of use from excel, word, browsing, videos and basic statistical programmes also.

My budget is as cheap as possible (preferably three figures), but at the same time I could probably stretch £1,500. I want something value wise that does a job to meet the requirements, but at the same time if there's a must have that will last 10 years or there's nothing decent at lower costs then I'm happy to not eat for a week! I don't really have much computer knowledge regarding specs etc. (I found out yesterday that SSDs exist...), so I'm unsure even what sort of price range is reasonable for my requirements. 

Any help would be much appreciated. 

What are you planning to do in college?

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6 minutes ago, justcunliffe said:

@Smurf I am looking for a laptop which I will only be using for football manager.

I play in 2D with around 6/7 leagues usually. Does this mean the graphics card isn’t an issue?

My budget is around £600. Would like a couple of options with regards screen size if possible? Thanks


https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-DM040T-ASUS-FX504GD-DM040T-Gaming-Laptop_2315680.html
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM968T-ASUS-ZX553VD-DM968T-Gaming-Laptop_2145526.html

I don't see anything in larger sizes

 

 

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18 minutes ago, FrancisM89 said:

Economics and Econometrics.

Processor Intel Core i7-8750H Hexa-Core (2.2GHz, 9MB Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Up To 4.1GHz)
Screen 15.6" (1920x1080 FHD Resolutio, Ultra Slim 200nits, Anti-Glare Screen)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
RAM 8GB (DDR4 2400MHz)
Solid State Drive 128GB SSD
Hard Drive 1000GB (5400RPM)
Optical Drive Not Included (Designed To Be Thin & Light) - External Optical Drive Available Seperately for £29.99
Graphics Dedicated (NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 with 4GB DDR5 Dedicated Memory)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.2
Wireless LAN Wireless (802.11ac dual-band, 2x2 Wi-Fi up to 867 Mbps)
Network Card 10/100/1000 Gigabit Fast Ethernet
Integrated Webcam Integrated HD Webcam with Microphone
Speakers Integrated Harmon Kardon Speakers
USB Ports 2x USB2.0 1x USB 3.0 (Type A) 1x USB 3.1 (Type C)
Card Reader 3-in-1 card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
HDMI Port 1 x HDMI
RJ45 1 x RJ45
Charge Time 3.5 Hours
Battery Life 7-8 Hours (up to 8 hours with power management)
Backlit Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Weight 1-2 Kg (This Model 1.99 Kg)
Warranty ASUS 12 Month Collect & Return Warranty (View More Information)
Product Type Slim Laptop
Keyboard Type Laptop Keyboard
Colour Gold
Dimensions 38.0 cm Width, 25.1 cm Depth, 1.92 cm Height
OPTIONS INCLUDED Built In 16GB Intel Optane Memory

 

£999.97

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N580GD-DM083T-ASUS-Vivobook-Pro-N580GD-DM083T_2318184.html

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Just now, hyrule_king said:

My budget is around 400.

Not sure on intel g series or amd ryzen?

What's your gaming expecatations.

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:
Processor Intel Core i7-8750H Hexa-Core (2.2GHz, 9MB Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Up To 4.1GHz)
Screen 15.6" (1920x1080 FHD Resolutio, Ultra Slim 200nits, Anti-Glare Screen)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
RAM 8GB (DDR4 2400MHz)
Solid State Drive 128GB SSD
Hard Drive 1000GB (5400RPM)
Optical Drive Not Included (Designed To Be Thin & Light) - External Optical Drive Available Seperately for £29.99
Graphics Dedicated (NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 with 4GB DDR5 Dedicated Memory)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.2
Wireless LAN Wireless (802.11ac dual-band, 2x2 Wi-Fi up to 867 Mbps)
Network Card 10/100/1000 Gigabit Fast Ethernet
Integrated Webcam Integrated HD Webcam with Microphone
Speakers Integrated Harmon Kardon Speakers
USB Ports 2x USB2.0 1x USB 3.0 (Type A) 1x USB 3.1 (Type C)
Card Reader 3-in-1 card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
HDMI Port 1 x HDMI
RJ45 1 x RJ45
Charge Time 3.5 Hours
Battery Life 7-8 Hours (up to 8 hours with power management)
Backlit Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Weight 1-2 Kg (This Model 1.99 Kg)
Warranty ASUS 12 Month Collect & Return Warranty (View More Information)
Product Type Slim Laptop
Keyboard Type Laptop Keyboard
Colour Gold
Dimensions 38.0 cm Width, 25.1 cm Depth, 1.92 cm Height
OPTIONS INCLUDED Built In 16GB Intel Optane Memory

 

£999.97

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N580GD-DM083T-ASUS-Vivobook-Pro-N580GD-DM083T_2318184.html

What makes me laugh when I see items like this is the 97p. 😜. How do these companies decide on the odd 97p?

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2 hours ago, FrancisM89 said:

So, I'm on the hunt for a new laptop.

I want something that's portable (university is an hour away on the London Underground), has a decent battery life (I also do some work that requires a bit of travelling around the South East, would be great to be usable on the train without charging worries), and if I'm using in a quiet area doesn't sound like it's about to blow up (I was looking at the Recoil II until I saw reviews about fan and the mechanical keyboard noises). I've had a look around PC Specialists, but most of the configuration stuff is just words to me really.

I have a pretty good PC Desktop which will be my main thing to run games on, however there is a good chance in a couple of years time I'll be doing a masters in Germany in which case I wouldn't want to lug a great stonking PC across Europe. I'm not looking for something that runs the latest biggest and baddest titles on Ultra + settings for everything, but I would like to be able to run FM, EU4, Civ6, Fortnite and maybe the occasional bigger title (a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout maybe). There will be quite a bit of use from excel, word, browsing, videos and basic statistical programmes also.

My budget is as cheap as possible (preferably three figures), but at the same time I could probably stretch £1,500. I want something value wise that does a job to meet the requirements, but at the same time if there's a must have that will last 10 years or there's nothing decent at lower costs then I'm happy to not eat for a week! I don't really have much computer knowledge regarding specs etc. (I found out yesterday that SSDs exist...), so I'm unsure even what sort of price range is reasonable for my requirements. 

Any help would be much appreciated. 

@Smurf  because I’m a fan of the i7 and ASUS I like this, apparently it has a saving of £400.  Smurf will have a better opinion if it’s good value or not?  https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-gl702vs-core-i7-7700hq-16gb-1tb-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1070-17-inch-gl702vs-gc287t/version.asp?refsource=LDadwords&refsource=ldadwords&mkwid=sodtiYPbt_dm&pcrid=280237359994&product=GL702VS-GC287T&pgrid=58611335682&ptaid=aud-421842933980:pla-464540947670&gclid=CjwKCAjw_b3cBRByEiwAdG8WqmkenQnsu6kxk0YIb9Hrc_TZhZ9Ors7OJ-CRS23nULMFSwiDC3VdhRoC1icQAvD_BwE

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3 minutes ago, wayne'o said:

I don't know if 17 inch would be considered portable. It's a good laptop

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9 minutes ago, wayne'o said:

It weighs almost 3kg - the OP wanted something portable - it's a great laptop! No doubt!

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8 minutes ago, Smurf said:

It weighs almost 3kg - the OP wanted something portable - it's a great laptop! No doubt!

What’s 3kg to a strong lad 😜

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Thanks for the input guys, I've got a few things there to consider there. 

My last laptop was a 17.3 incher which I didn't think was a terrible nuisance to transport in terms of width, the 4kg weight + the heaviest power cable I ever saw, which was needed as the battery life was realistically sub 1 hour, really made it a cumbersome chore though. I had a cheap rubbish notebook supplied by my last job which I had to carry across London (Buckhurst Hill - Ealing) a lot, was about 1kg and not even noticeable.

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7 hours ago, Smurf said:

What's your gaming expecatations.

Would be nice to play on high graphics but not overly fussed. 

Good processor for fm.

I have a list of games i would like to try: f1 2018, gta v, battlefield 5 and a few others. 

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1 minute ago, hyrule_king said:

Would be nice to play on high graphics but not overly fussed. 

Good processor for fm.

I have a list of games i would like to try: f1 2018, gta v, battlefield 5 and a few others. 

Not for £400 - maybe a desktop but then you'd need a monitor.

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Hello @Smurf - Thanks for sharing all your knowledge here!   My old ASUS ROG 750JW (i7, GTX 765m) still works fine to play FM18.

But would you please share your thought on this new ASUS model, whether it's a good choice for the next 5 years of FM:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-gu501gm-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hybrid-drive-128gb-ssd-brushed-black/6207900.p?skuId=6207900

I'm in the US and my budget would be in the range of US$1,200 to 1,800. Thanks again.

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8 hours ago, Smurf said:

Not for £400 - maybe a desktop but then you'd need a monitor.

I have a monitor.

I will do a ccl computers build. 

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44 minutes ago, phd_angel said:

Hello @Smurf - Thanks for sharing all your knowledge here!   My old ASUS ROG 750JW (i7, GTX 765m) still works fine to play FM18.

But would you please share your thought on this new ASUS model, whether it's a good choice for the next 5 years of FM:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-gu501gm-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hybrid-drive-128gb-ssd-brushed-black/6207900.p?skuId=6207900

I'm in the US and my budget would be in the range of US$1,200 to 1,800. Thanks again.

Looks good 

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Hi fellow managers,

I'm looking at purchasing a new laptop and I will be playing FM19 on it. My budget is £600 to £700 fyi.

Processor speed is obviously very important.

I'm looking at one laptop which has a base processor speed of 2.8Ghz & a turbo speed of 3.8Ghz.

The other laptop has a base processor speed of 2.3Ghz & a turbo speed of 4.1Ghz.

How important is base processor speed? Should I just be searching for a laptop with the highest turbo speed or both high base & turbo speed?

Please help :)

Thanks

 

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Base speed - plus the single core performance are important. 

 

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8 hours ago, WillFMJones said:

Hi fellow managers,

I'm looking at purchasing a new laptop and I will be playing FM19 on it. My budget is £600 to £700 fyi.

Processor speed is obviously very important.

I'm looking at one laptop which has a base processor speed of 2.8Ghz & a turbo speed of 3.8Ghz.

The other laptop has a base processor speed of 2.3Ghz & a turbo speed of 4.1Ghz.

How important is base processor speed? Should I just be searching for a laptop with the highest turbo speed or both high base & turbo speed?

Please help :)

Thanks

 

The 2.8 base is better, taking Ram speed into account too,   Turbo speed will only happen when the Cpu is operating under its maximum recommendation of thermal limit which means the faster the Cpu works the hotter it gets. Turbo speed isn’t se in stone,  you’d be better off getting an i5 or i7 chip capable of being overclocked as with an overclocked chip you would have for example 3.8 or 4.1 operating on all cores 4 or 6 cores..  the K chips do cost more tho.

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Football manager minimum specs.

  • CPU: Intel Pentium 4, Intel Core or AMD Athlon – 2.2 GHz +
  • VIDEO CARD: Intel GMA X4500, NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT or AMD/ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 – 256MB VRAM.
  • 2Gb Ram

 

Dont get many intel chipped pc’s Cheaper than this. This pc has good reviews and only £550. It doesn’t come with OS.  Iv added couple bundle offers just for comparison.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B074J98ZCG/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1#featureBulletsAndDetailBullets_secondary_view_div_1536348784876

 

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