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3 minutes ago, robbie_start said:

Up until a few months ago I had an i7 2700K in my desktop and this processor is matched exactly to that in performance and core/thread count, so it should run great. GTX 1050 should make the match engine a breeze too.

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Just now, wateronglass said:

Up until a few months ago I had an i7 2700K in my desktop and this processor is matched exactly to that in performance and core/thread count, so it should run great. GTX 1050 should make the match engine a breeze too.

Thanks for the prompt reply, I have just done a little research and apparently the screen is extremely poor :(

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2 hours ago, robbie_start said:

Thanks for the prompt reply, I have just done a little research and apparently the screen is extremely poor :(

Having researched further into it, they have changed the screen panel to an IPS. My problem now is for £1,099 from Currys I can get this, with also the Dell Virtual Headset, it doesn’t state if it has the upgraded IPS panel though? If I buy direct from Dell it does

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What's the opinion on this as a refurbished laptop with a 2 year warranty? Is the processor capable enough? And graphics card?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/second-user-lenovo-t430-14-intel-core-i5-3210m-2.50ghz-8gb-320gb-windows-1-s1-t430-uk-t035-2yr/version.asp

Doesn't need to be lighting fast, as i usually play it secondary to other tasks. Just want something reasonably reliable and value for cash. I can also upgrade the RAM to 16GB and the hard drive to a SSD 240GB which I will likely go for.

Or my other option is the one attached. Is this much better?

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help so thank you again in advance.

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Hi looking around and keeping an eye on this thread just wondering j

If these specs are ok?

i5-7300HQ 3.5GHz Quad Turbo

8gb ddr4

Nvidia GTX 960M Dedicated 2GB DDR5 Graphics

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10 hours ago, L7M said:

Hi looking around and keeping an eye on this thread just wondering j

If these specs are ok?

i5-7300HQ 3.5GHz Quad Turbo

8gb ddr4

Nvidia GTX 960M Dedicated 2GB DDR5 Graphics

Looks great!

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On 07/12/2017 at 09:09, Crossy90 said:

What's the opinion on this as a refurbished laptop with a 2 year warranty? Is the processor capable enough? And graphics card?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/second-user-lenovo-t430-14-intel-core-i5-3210m-2.50ghz-8gb-320gb-windows-1-s1-t430-uk-t035-2yr/version.asp

Doesn't need to be lighting fast, as i usually play it secondary to other tasks. Just want something reasonably reliable and value for cash. I can also upgrade the RAM to 16GB and the hard drive to a SSD 240GB which I will likely go for.

Or my other option is the one attached. Is this much better?

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help so thank you again in advance.

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It's a bit old - so hard to know - but on paper it looks ok.

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Thanks for your opinion, if it looks ok on paper then I'll take a punt at it, doesn' need to be amazingly good, just useable. Comes with a year warranty as well which will suit it well if there's problems.

Cheers!

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10 hours ago, robbie_start said:

Guys, what do you think to this?

http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/compare?ocs=n00aw15r315

On the look out for a decent laptop since mine got stolen this week!! Is this good value for money?!

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JB92-691-MSI-GP62MVR-7RFX-(Leopard-Pro)-691UK_2149497.html

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It would be fine.

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I keep getting power surges with my new computer, i turned anti power surge off now it's less often.
I still get a few though in this winter weather at night at least a few days a week.

This is my computer 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01CYTTQY0/ref=twister_B01CYTHENK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&coliid=I1R9Z7DTS3BLH&colid=26P7MFKEDGX6N

If i buy this will it help? or would anyone reccomend a better one?

APC Back-UPS ES 550 - Uninterruptible Power Supply 550VA, - BE550G-UK - 8 Outlets - Surge protected
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RX6NY0/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2D6PSEJWAMGMX&colid=26P7MFKEDGX6N&psc=1

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Quick question, i want to buy a laptop, but i dont know if it is enough to play FM18. Anyone can help?

I hope the translation is correct.

Display: 39,6 cm (15,6") LED-Backlight-Display , AVHA-Technology
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (Full HD)
Processor: Intel Core i5-7200U (2 x 2.50 GHz, Turbo 3.10 GHz, 3 MB SmartCache )
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® 940MX (2GB DDR3L)
Memory: 8 GB DDR4
Hard disk: 256 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD
(https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/erweiterte+suche/notebooks+erweiterte+suche/medion+akoya+p6677+notebook)

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Evening All

I'm trying to buy a new PC for my Dad, he loves Football Manager - so literally all it needs to do is play FM and go on the internet...

I found the below PC but it won't arrive for 3 weeks.

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM

Does anyone have any recommendations on something worth around £200-£400 (Desktop PC). Doesn't have to be amazingly fast, just something which doesn't constantly lag and freeze.

Thanks in advance :).

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48 minutes ago, apfel said:

Quick question, i want to buy a laptop, but i dont know if it is enough to play FM18. Anyone can help?

I hope the translation is correct.

Display: 39,6 cm (15,6") LED-Backlight-Display , AVHA-Technology
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (Full HD)
Processor: Intel Core i5-7200U (2 x 2.50 GHz, Turbo 3.10 GHz, 3 MB SmartCache )
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® 940MX (2GB DDR3L)
Memory: 8 GB DDR4
Hard disk: 256 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD
(https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/erweiterte+suche/notebooks+erweiterte+suche/medion+akoya+p6677+notebook)

 

The processor is too slow for Football Manager, the video card is too weak for other games, it is kinda obsolete. And the overall price for that laptop is very high.

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vor 3 Minuten schrieb mihaiz79:

 

The processor is too slow for Football Manager, the video card is too weak for other games, it is kinda obsolete. And the overall price for that laptop is very high.

They told me that i need i5 or higher and that graphic card is one of the best? Also there is nothing cheaper with all those extras. What processor and graphic card would you recommend for me?

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1 hour ago, Evertonized said:

Evening All

I'm trying to buy a new PC for my Dad, he loves Football Manager - so literally all it needs to do is play FM and go on the internet...

I found the below PC but it won't arrive for 3 weeks.

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM

Does anyone have any recommendations on something worth around £200-£400 (Desktop PC). Doesn't have to be amazingly fast, just something which doesn't constantly lag and freeze.

Thanks in advance :).

Not really cost effective to buy a dual-core desktop in almost 2018 even with hyperthreading, particularly if the intended use is for a CPU hungry game like FM. And not sure how well that iGPU would handle the match engine graphics.

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1 hour ago, apfel said:

They told me that i need i5 or higher and that graphic card is one of the best? Also there is nothing cheaper with all those extras. What processor and graphic card would you recommend for me?

For a decent performance in FM, you should look for at least a i5 HQ cpu, not a newer but slower U processor.

That NVIDIA® GeForce® 940MX will handle Football Manager, but you should look for at least a 950 with 4GB in 2017. :)

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A 2 gb graphics card is OK to run fm and most other games right? Or do you realistically need 4 gb?

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2gb Graphics is more than enough for most games.

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6 hours ago, 91427 said:

A 2 gb graphics card is OK to run fm and most other games right? Or do you realistically need 4 gb?

Video memory is not really a good measure of graphics card performance. One card can outperform another by up to like 10 times with the same amount of VRAM as there are more important factors like the GPU, architecture, CUDA cores/stream processors and all other kinds of stuff going on with them. Ultimately the only way to really measure how well a card performs is to look up benchmarks and reviews.

All that said a good 2GB card will run FM perfectly fine, but for playing other modern games I would recommend at least 4GB. If you're talking about laptops you'll be more restricted in that though.

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19 minutes ago, wateronglass said:

Video memory is not really a good measure of graphics card performance. One card can outperform another by up to like 10 times with the same amount of VRAM as there are more important factors like the GPU, architecture, CUDA cores/stream processors and all other kinds of stuff going on with them. Ultimately the only way to really measure how well a card performs is to look up benchmarks and reviews.

All that said a good 2GB card will run FM perfectly fine, but for playing other modern games I would recommend at least 4GB. If you're talking about laptops you'll be more restricted in that though.

I was just answering the query which was

A 2 gb graphics card is OK to run fm and most other games right? Or do you realistically need 4 gb?

They don't realistically need 4gb RAM - unless the graphics card comes with a 512 bit memory bus. With most 1080p - 2gb VRAM is more than enough for most games. More demanding games like GTA could use a bit more - but in terms of gaming performance it wouldn't add anything by having 4gb RAM.

Take the GTX 960 2gb - it has roughly 95-97% same performance as a 960 4gb. The GTX 960 has a memory bit bus of 128 bit. 4gb Ram is a waste, however, the price is higher - so in terms of 960GTX - I would always opt for the 2gb version over the 4gb. And you end up spending up to £200 extra for this extra 2gb that you don't really need.

Take, cards like the R9290 4gb makes use of the full 4gb and is a better card overall, as it has a 512 bit memory bus  - so it's worth spending the extra £200 on.

Looking at reviews is always a no brainer - looking up benchmarks is a no brainer! We can all do that. 

 

For FM - a good Mid Level card is more than enough with 2gb RAM. You can copy and paste the graphics card model and in google put

R9290 (or other model number) notebookchecker

https://www.google.ie/search?biw=1188&bih=853&ei=ybQvWrC9GpLAkgWkgav4Aw&q=R9290+notebookcheck&oq=R9290+notebookcheck&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1702.1702.0.1925.1.1.0.0.0.0.88.88.1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.7gb2oMAib9k

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-R9-290X.105758.0.html

It comes back as being referenced as High End

The 960 comes back as upper mid class

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-960.146738.0.html

 

This is a good list to measure off when considering a graphics card

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

If any of the results from the list above falls in the Low End - then forget about them.

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Smurf said:

I was just answering the query which was

A 2 gb graphics card is OK to run fm and most other games right? Or do you realistically need 4 gb?

They don't realistically need 4gb RAM - unless the graphics card comes with a 512 bit memory bus. With most 1080p - 2gb VRAM is more than enough for most games. More demanding games like GTA could use a bit more - but in terms of gaming performance it wouldn't add anything by having 4gb RAM.

Take the GTX 960 2gb - it has roughly 95-97% same performance as a 960 4gb. The GTX 960 has a memory bit bus of 128 bit. 4gb Ram is a waste, however, the price is higher - so in terms of 960GTX - I would always opt for the 2gb version over the 4gb. And you end up spending up to £200 extra for this extra 2gb that you don't really need.

Take, cards like the R9290 4gb makes use of the full 4gb and is a better card overall, as it has a 512 bit memory bus  - so it's worth spending the extra £200 on.

Looking at reviews is always a no brainer - looking up benchmarks is a no brainer! We can all do that.

I wasn't responding to your comment but it's true that some cards have pointless beefed up variants. Again this goes in with the point that you need to assess each card on an individual basis by looking at benchmarks, but it's not true that everyone knows to do this or could even make sense of the data (i.e What is a good FPS? What is FPS? ). When people ask for help with things like this it's best to assume they're not so in the know; it's possible that if you take the question at face value and say 2GB is fine, they'll go out and buy a GT 630 or something. I remember not having a clue myself about a decade ago and asking in a forum if I all I needed to run Crysis was a 1GB graphics card.

As for other games, I just played a round of PUBG which might be the most popular game of the year, and not even maxed out it used 4GB VRAM. Cards with less than 2GB are only going to get choked out further as time goes on.

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Sorry I missed that part where you weren't responding to me - my bad.

Yes of course, I would assume the latest i5 and i7 7th gen HQ processors are using at least from 930m and up. 

Usually withing budget laptops, up to about £1000 - the most you'll get is roughly the 930mx or up to the 1050Ti - but the beefed up 4gb versions don't really add anything. Great if they have them and in price range then do go for it. But if someone is worrying from 2gb or 4gb in this area, then it's a waste of a worry.

I can't imagine a 7th gen processor having a processor like the GT 630 and if that reseller has this they should be ashamed of themselves!

There are much higher end cards that can avail of the 4gb RAM - but all in all - dealing with budget laptops we're usually looking at the 940-980M or the 1050/1050ti.

 

Great to have your knowledge on board though - really appreciate the insight and the input! Thank you!
 

 

 

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Is this the best laptop specs for my budget of £650?

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM968T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM968T_2273895.html

edit, it looks like it is out of stock! Could anyone recommend anything else?

there is this one for just shy of £700, is it better than the other one?

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2145527.html

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Out of stock

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That's what I came up with too. It looks good!

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Thanks for the responses  @wateronglass@Smurf

The specific laptop I was looking at was this one: https://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-power-15-cb061na-15-6-gaming-laptop-black-10164664-pdt.html

I know the cpu and gpu are a bit imbalanced and there's no ssd but it seems like every other laptop with decent specs in my price range has like illuminated red keyboards and that sort of thing which I'm really not a fan of. Are there any other good laptops under £1000 that just look like normal laptops?

I know next to nothing about laptops but a review I read said that because of the cpu there has to be a fan on the whole time. Is that likely to be particularly audible?

 

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This is pretty nice - it does have a backlit keyboard, but I'm not sure what colour it is? https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80RU00CPUK-Lenovo-Ideapad-700_1958414.html

 

You might be better off going custom - you can configure with link at end


Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1

M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND M.2 SSD (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)

Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND


Price £1,053.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/optimusviii-15/AmaJxkKQMP/

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The custom one looks like it's pretty excellent, thanks mate, you've been a massive help

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2 hours ago, 91427 said:

The custom one looks like it's pretty excellent, thanks mate, you've been a massive help

I only quickly put that together - let me know what you decide. 

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Hey

my Aspire Acer v7 gave up yesterday. He is at the End of his days 

Now I search a new Notebook for a maximum of 950 Euros which will run FM18. Fm18 is the only game I play, so should be a Notebook only for fm

 

thanks in advance

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3 hours ago, Forest said:

Hey

my Aspire Acer v7 gave up yesterday. He is at the End of his days 

Now I search a new Notebook for a maximum of 950 Euros which will run FM18. Fm18 is the only game I play, so should be a Notebook only for fm

 

thanks in advance

They just don't make notebooks (that I know of) with a processor for FM - most Notebooks are U processors, and they're not great for FM - in a lightweight laptop I can recommend this

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-14A112-090-MSI-GS40-6QE(Phantom)-090UK_1945621.html

Battery life is a bit low though

 

1 hour ago, robbie_start said:

Thanks for all the help in here, after having my new laptop stolen I purchased this;

http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/compare?ocs=cn57705

Looking at gaming more on my laptop, will this be ok for FM and other games?

Thanks again for the help of tis forum.

Looks good

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vor 34 Minuten schrieb Smurf:

They just don't make notebooks (that I know of) with a processor for FM - most Notebooks are U processors, and they're not great for FM - in a lightweight laptop I can recommend this

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-14A112-090-MSI-GS40-6QE(Phantom)-090UK_1945621.html

Battery life is a bit low though

 

Looks good

Thank you for your opinion!

 

How would you rate this one 

https://www.mifcom.de/gaming-laptop-eg5-i7-gtx-1050-ssd-15-6-id5979

 

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2 hours ago, Forest said:

Thank you for your opinion!

 

How would you rate this one 

https://www.mifcom.de/gaming-laptop-eg5-i7-gtx-1050-ssd-15-6-id5979

 

It's good

7 minutes ago, happy hammer1 said:

Thinking of getting a surface pro for football manager so it’s nice and portable to take with me would you recommend it

No - I wouldn't recommend it for football manager. But it would work on it. If you insist on it make sure it's the model with the U processor (there are no other choices)

https://www.windowscentral.com/surface-pro-2017-specs

To be honest, they're designed for portablity and not heavy processing that FM demands.

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So far it's running pretty decent but just checking it'll stand up for a long term save?

Using an Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575-33BM

  • 7th Generation Intel Core i3-7100U Processor (2.4GHz, 3MB L3 cache)
  • 4GB DDR4 Memory, 1TB 5400RPM HDD
  • Intel HD graphics 620

 

Thanks

 

 

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Spilt a hot toddy on my laptop, so it's now near a radiator drying. I'm not hopeful so I may be joining this thread soon

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2 hours ago, Kramerica said:

So far it's running pretty decent but just checking it'll stand up for a long term save?

Using an Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575-33BM

  • 7th Generation Intel Core i3-7100U Processor (2.4GHz, 3MB L3 cache)
  • 4GB DDR4 Memory, 1TB 5400RPM HDD
  • Intel HD graphics 620

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

Be interested to know too - let us know how many leauges/database size and all that.

There's a benchmarking thread too - you could post there. 

2 hours ago, HemHat said:

Spilt a hot toddy on my laptop, so it's now near a radiator drying. I'm not hopeful so I may be joining this thread soon

Take out the battery. Use lint free towels to remove any excess liquid. 

You could take it apart - which would involve about a dozen or so screws if you're confident.

Use a hairdryer on the coolest setting - have the laptop upside down to drain the liquid. 

Leave it to completely dry out. 

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Have done all of those things..the reason I'm not confident is I didn't notice I'd spilt anything for a little while..basically I'd picked up a few cups to carry out to the kitchen and must have carried one at a funny angle and it was spilling. I stayed in the kitchen/outside for a bit then came in and noticed. :idiot:

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19 ore fa, robbie_start ha scritto:

Thanks for all the help in here, after having my new laptop stolen I purchased this;

http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/compare?ocs=cn57705

Looking at gaming more on my laptop, will this be ok for FM and other games?

Thanks again for the help of tis forum.

I've exactly the same machine and for FM it's really good

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20 minutes ago, pauso said:

I've exactly the same machine and for FM it's really good

Yes - but what's really good? How many leagues/databases - how many seasons do you play - how many players are in the database? 

What's good for you may not be good for someone else.

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Yes, you're obviously right on this. As i had an old laptop for FM17, this one seems amazing to me as the game runs great with all the major leagues loaded and a database of around 80000 players, but again, this is in comparison with my old machine.

 

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There was a notebook request above that I replied to similar to your request.

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