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5 hours ago, Jimbokav_Jr_1996 said:

So I’ve read a good few pages on this thread trying to work it out myself and now my head hurts. 

I’ve ended up on this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/A556UQ-DM1469T-ASUS-Vivobook-A556UQ-DM1469T_2255403.html

can anyone see any problems there? I’m trying to run FM as best I can while being as stingy as I can (while getting a laptop instead of a desktop PC). I know next to nothing about laptops but from what I’ve read this should be a good fit? I have read that i7 is good, and 8GB of ram should be more than enough for FM? I think I read that SSD has no impact on game processing speed, just boot up times so if I’m being tight, no SSD is fine? I have no idea what graphics stuff I need, or what this laptop offers but hopefully someone smarter than myself can let me know if this will suffice? 

I think the laptop linked should have FM running nicely, would just be nice if someone could let me know I haven’t gone wrong somewhere, or that I’m not over paying for something I don’t need to be.

Also if I wanted to “add” SSD in the future, is that something I could do with this laptop?

Thanks!

If you want a good experience the best I can find being as stingy as possible is 
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.003-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-57YT_2156569.html

However, if you want to keep it even stingier than this would be better than what you linked
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/81AX00CBUK-Lenovo-V330_2276809.html

Or if you want a 17 inch screen 
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GSWEK.004-Acer-Aspire-5-A517-51-52FU_2348163.html

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11 hours ago, Andy H said:

Looking for some help when it comes buying a laptop. My budget probably is about 800 ish max. Would love a graphics card where I could play FM in high settings for a change as the last couple I’ve had to play on the lowest setting. What’s different playing fm on the highest or high graphics setting in comparison to the lowest or low setting? 

Would a GeForce gtx 1050ti 2GB or 4GB thereabouts enable me to play at the higher settings or would I need to go higher?

Also I’d only be using the laptop for FM gaming wise too. 

Any help would be great. 

 

Any thoughts guys? 

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16 minutes ago, Andy H said:

Any thoughts guys? 

Understand your budget is 800 - however, this is just 900 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GM-EN151T-ASUS-FX504GM-EN151T-Gaming-Laptop_2344468.html

 

Failing that

This would be very good for 800

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-EN184T-ASUS-FX503VM-EN184T_2315679.html

 

You might have a few more gains in a new processor - however, sacrafice a little on graphics card here - not much, and I still think you could play on full detail

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GE-E4031T-ASUS-FX504GE-E4031T-Gaming-Laptop_2318164.html

 

 

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9 hours ago, Jimbokav_Jr_1996 said:

So I’ve read a good few pages on this thread trying to work it out myself and now my head hurts. 

I’ve ended up on this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/A556UQ-DM1469T-ASUS-Vivobook-A556UQ-DM1469T_2255403.html

can anyone see any problems there? I’m trying to run FM as best I can while being as stingy as I can (while getting a laptop instead of a desktop PC). I know next to nothing about laptops but from what I’ve read this should be a good fit? I have read that i7 is good, and 8GB of ram should be more than enough for FM? I think I read that SSD has no impact on game processing speed, just boot up times so if I’m being tight, no SSD is fine? I have no idea what graphics stuff I need, or what this laptop offers but hopefully someone smarter than myself can let me know if this will suffice? 

I think the laptop linked should have FM running nicely, would just be nice if someone could let me know I haven’t gone wrong somewhere, or that I’m not over paying for something I don’t need to be.

Also if I wanted to “add” SSD in the future, is that something I could do with this laptop?

Thanks!

If you can find the extra £100 this is miles better

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.003-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-57YT_2156569.html?wgu=13045_116019_15394217996606_536e45da0e&wgexpiry=1547197799&source=webgains&siteid=116019

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8 minutes ago, bennytee said:

Hey, we came to the same laptop on the same sister sites... woaaaah!!! :D

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6 minutes ago, Barside said:

@Jimbokav_Jr_1996 Get your Dad to stump up with some extra funds, after all he's to blame for you catching the FM bug, @bennytee alternative is an excellent choice for FM if you can manage the additional costy.

He could offer to valet the car for a month in lieu of the extra 100 :D 

 

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19 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Hey, we came to the same laptop on the same sister sites... woaaaah!!! :D

Sorry smurf, didn't spot that you'd linked it. 

That must be the the best price for the i5 HQ around

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3 minutes ago, bennytee said:

Sorry smurf, didn't spot that you'd linked it. 

That must be the the best price for the i5 HQ around

Yep - pretty much the cheapest I can find

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Some places selling nearly double the price! Pays to shop around!

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6 minutes ago, bennytee said:

Sorry smurf, didn't spot that you'd linked it. 

That must be the the best price for the i5 HQ around

What do you think of this one? I think it's refurbed though... 

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=SLAPMSIGL627QF10B&sku=SLAPMSIGL627QF10B&ref=pricespy&utm_source=pricespy&utm_campaign=pricespy&utm_medium=cpc

Graphics card not as good, but it's an ok price.  

 

Possibly best to ignore this one, just came across it as a possible option.

 

 

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Do CEX refurb items they buy in? I thought they just graded them & resold as is which would be a concern on a laptop as you never know what hidden extras you could be getting.

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23 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Hey, we came to the same laptop on the same sister sites... woaaaah!!! :D

When I looked at both of your replys, I didn’t even notice that I had looked at the same laptop twice on different websites. Because if that I’m just gonna take your advice and stop looking into it too much because I clearly have no idea what I’m looking at anyway...

29 minutes ago, Barside said:

@Jimbokav_Jr_1996 Get your Dad to stump up with some extra funds, after all he's to blame for you catching the FM bug, @bennytee alternative is an excellent choice for FM if you can manage the additional costy.

It’s alright I’m gonna get the one that @Smurf and @bennytee suggested anyway, I think I’m already being significantly less stingy than he was when he got a new laptop for FM18 so I’ll probably just not mention how much I’m gonna spend!

Cheers for all your help guys! 

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Hi

Posted this a few times now and no response - apologies but could do with a steer from a knowledgeable poster....

Can you advise which one is best for FM play please?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-x7851-core-i7-7700hq-16gb-1tb-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1060-17-30023005/version.asp#/maindesc

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GM-EN150T-ASUS-FX504GM-EN150T-Gaming-Laptop_2392223.html

 

Or if you can recommend one for a similar price range  - max 1300.

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14 minutes ago, Smurf said:

What do you think of this one? I think it's refurbed though... 

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=SLAPMSIGL627QF10B&sku=SLAPMSIGL627QF10B&ref=pricespy&utm_source=pricespy&utm_campaign=pricespy&utm_medium=cpc

Graphics card not as good, but it's an ok price.  

 

Possibly best to ignore this one, just came across it as a possible option.

 

 

I'm a fan of a refurb, got mine from LaptopsDirect a few years back i7 4710hq 17 inch HP Envy.  It was this thread that alerted me to the benefits of the H processors over U ones.  It still flies along superbly and looked more like an open-box than a refurb, not a scratch on it.

Trouble is i'm a bit cautious when it comes to recommending them to people in case they do have problems.  No doubt though my next purchase will probably be a refurb if i can get a good price and possibly a replacement battery.

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6 minutes ago, Legendary Manager said:

Hi

Posted this a few times now and no response - apologies but could do with a steer from a knowledgeable poster....

Can you advise which one is best for FM play please?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-x7851-core-i7-7700hq-16gb-1tb-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1060-17-30023005/version.asp#/maindesc

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GM-EN150T-ASUS-FX504GM-EN150T-Gaming-Laptop_2392223.html

 

Or if you can recommend one for a similar price range  - max 1300.

Both solid choices, second one has a better processor.

I also spotted this https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-gl702vs-core-i7-7700hq-16gb-1tb-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1070-17-inch-gl702vs-gc287t/version.asp?tduid=3cb8917397caad3b2e491c972e0f8607&utm_source=digidip+UK_2142931&utm_medium=tradedoubler

Which takes you to the next level graphics-wise but slightly over budget.

My advice at this price level is to look carefully at reviews of each laptop and see what pros and cons are for each, look for the best screen/cooling etc

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Understand your budget is 800 - however, this is just 900 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GM-EN151T-ASUS-FX504GM-EN151T-Gaming-Laptop_2344468.html

 

Failing that

This would be very good for 800

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-EN184T-ASUS-FX503VM-EN184T_2315679.html

 

You might have a few more gains in a new processor - however, sacrafice a little on graphics card here - not much, and I still think you could play on full detail

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GE-E4031T-ASUS-FX504GE-E4031T-Gaming-Laptop_2318164.html

 

 

Cheers Smurf, much appreciated. Had been looking at the two linked for £800 plus a couple of others around 750-800. The one at £900 looks fantastic though. :eek:

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12 minutes ago, Andy H said:

Cheers Smurf, much appreciated. Had been looking at the two linked for £800 plus a couple of others around 750-800. The one at £900 looks fantastic though. :eek:

Yeh it's pretty sweet, and I'd say stump up the extra 100 if you can! It would be worth it in the long run, I'd say.

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4 minutes ago, Ricc said:

All of the above will do what you are looking for but do you have a maximum you will spend?  This will make it easier to look.

I would also avoid PC World in general as they tend to be over priced

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16 minutes ago, bennytee said:

All of the above will do what you are looking for but do you have a maximum you will spend?  This will make it easier to look.

I would also avoid PC World in general as they tend to be over priced

err.. around the 900 quid mark, I wouldn't like to go much higher.

 

Thanks bud.

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9 minutes ago, Ricc said:

err.. around the 900 quid mark, I wouldn't like to go much higher.

 

Thanks bud.

Of all your links I'd go for this one you linked to for FM

https://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-omen-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1060-gaming-laptop-1-tb-hdd-128-gb-ssd-10182278-pdt.html

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I’m seriously considering the Dell XPs 15 2 in 1 i7 16GB 512GB...anyone know of any reason I shouldn’t go for it? Cheers!

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Just now, Ricc said:

Magic thank you both very much.

 

do we think this one is better than the HP Omen I linked to at PC World?

I would go for the Asus as it has double the ram on the graphics card and is £100 cheaper.

That said the plus point of the Omen is that you could just walk into your local PC World and get it there and then

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Just now, bennytee said:

I would go for the Asus as it has double the ram on the graphics card and is £100 cheaper.

That said the plus point of the Omen is that you could just walk into your local PC World and get it there and then

don't mind too much waiting for delivery, FM19 isn't even out yet after all.

 

thank you pal, and @Smurf for your help.

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2 minutes ago, FM-Lee said:

I’m seriously considering the Dell XPs 15 2 in 1 i7 16GB 512GB...anyone know of any reason I shouldn’t go for it? Cheers!

Cracking bit of kit, if you can afford it go for it

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12 minutes ago, bennytee said:

Cracking bit of kit, if you can afford it go for it

The horror stories of the Surface Book 2 have really put me off, plus, I was told the Tablet itself won’t run FM all that well.

So apart from upgrading to a Surface Pro 6, it may well be the XPS 15 2 in 1...would you say that’s the best route to go for FM on a Tablet form factor? Cheers! 

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6 minutes ago, FM-Lee said:

The horror stories of the Surface Book 2 have really put me off, plus, I was told the Tablet itself won’t run FM all that well.

So apart from upgrading to a Surface Pro 6, it may well be the XPS 15 2 in 1...would you say that’s the best route to go for FM on a Tablet form factor? Cheers! 

other people will know more than me I expect but if that is the form factor you need then it looks pretty unrivalled at that price point and will run FM really well

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Hi all. I am looking for a new laptop and since FM is the only PC game I play so I need the advices from you guys

My budget is 1200$ And these are my requirements

- Good build and be able to work consistently in 2-3 years with little issue. The surface 4 I am using really a nightmare.

- good battery good keyboard and light, less than 1.5kg is ideal as I am travelling a lot and my work requires typing constantly

- Able to play FM properly, 2D and low graphic setting is ok but running the game should not lead to throttling.

- screen good enough to work outside  (IPS full HD...) no touch screen

- I don’t use camera, speaker and also don’t mind about fan noise. 

Some friends suggest Dell Latitude 7490, it seems perfect except the throttling and I’m afraid of it when play FM. Thank for help.

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29 minutes ago, Thien said:

Hi all. I am looking for a new laptop and since FM is the only PC game I play so I need the advices from you guys

My budget is 1200$ And these are my requirements

- Good build and be able to work consistently in 2-3 years with little issue. The surface 4 I am using really a nightmare.

- good battery good keyboard and light, less than 1.5kg is ideal as I am travelling a lot and my work requires typing constantly

- Able to play FM properly, 2D and low graphic setting is ok but running the game should not lead to throttling.

- screen good enough to work outside  (IPS full HD...) no touch screen

- I don’t use camera, speaker and also don’t mind about fan noise. 

Some friends suggest Dell Latitude 7490, it seems perfect except the throttling and I’m afraid of it when play FM. Thank for help.

By the use of the $ i'm guessing you aren't in the UK so i'm not too sure in terms of retailers. 

The weight and form factor you require is going to lead to some sort of throttling i'm afraid, its just the nature of the beast.  FM is very system taxing so my advice would be to check reviews and look for a system that has good cooling.

Try looking for the Huawei MateBook X Pro, i've heard great things from other people and if you can get it at a decent price it ticks all of your boxes

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1 hour ago, bennytee said:

other people will know more than me I expect but if that is the form factor you need then it looks pretty unrivalled at that price point and will run FM really well

Out of interest, would you have any other suggestions to investigate that meet my requirements before I make a final decision? 

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15 minutes ago, FM-Lee said:

Out of interest, would you have any other suggestions to investigate that meet my requirements before I make a final decision? 

Considering you want a 2 in 1 the HP Spectre x360 looks like a good option as does the Lenovo Yoga but there isn’t a lot to choose between them performance wise so it might just be down to your personal preference.

Techradar does a thorough review of all 3 here and compares similar laptop types https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/dell-xps-15-2-in-1

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46 minutes ago, bennytee said:

Considering you want a 2 in 1 the HP Spectre x360 looks like a good option as does the Lenovo Yoga but there isn’t a lot to choose between them performance wise so it might just be down to your personal preference.

Techradar does a thorough review of all 3 here and compares similar laptop types https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/dell-xps-15-2-in-1

Out of the 3, the Dell appeals to me most, one of the drawbacks is the lack of USB A. Only USB C, how would I sync my iPhone?

If it was a straight contest between the Dell and the Surface Pro 6, what would you recommend? 

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20 hours ago, phd_angel said:

It's not just RAM, it's everything: the processor (H is better than U), hybrid drive (vs mechanic), and the graphic card is much superior too.

True, but all I want it for is to play FM and have good graphics and a machine that runs well. Do I really need to pay the extra £250 quid? How much better an experience will that money make?

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1 hour ago, FM-Lee said:

Out of the 3, the Dell appeals to me most, one of the drawbacks is the lack of USB A. Only USB C, how would I sync my iPhone?

If it was a straight contest between the Dell and the Surface Pro 6, what would you recommend? 

I sync mine with USB C, it works fine if I'm understanding you correctly.

They are quite different machines, to be honest, the Surface Pro is a lot smaller for a start and it will depend on your usage

The Surface Pro is more of a portable tablet come notebook with more emphasis on being carried around, while the XPS is a bulkier PC that focuses on getting even demanding tasks done. The choice one has to make between these two portable options depends largely on just how mobile they plan to be.

The Surface for instance is going to be a lot more comfortable to hold for extended periods of time.  Essentially the surface is a small tablet you can use as a full-size laptop and the XPS is a laptop you can use as a tablet

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1 hour ago, peterpansnr said:

True, but all I want it for is to play FM and have good graphics and a machine that runs well. Do I really need to pay the extra £250 quid? How much better an experience will that money make?

Think of it as an investment, it'll future proof you for quite a while.  I could tell you why it's worth the money but it would be pretty technical, suffice to say that for a good experience on FM you need to be looking at processors that end in HQ or H, the U processors are low-power mobile chips which affect performance.

Here are the two processors side by side before we even get into how much better the graphics are on the more expensive one

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-7500U-vs-Intel-i7-8750H/2863vs3237

Graphics compared

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-940MX/m211022vsm88506

 

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9 minutes ago, bennytee said:

Think of it as an investment, it'll future proof you for quite a while.  I could tell you why it's worth the money but it would be pretty technical, suffice to say that for a good experience on FM you need to be looking at processors that end in HQ or H, the U processors are low-power mobile chips which affect performance.

Here are the two processors side by side before we even get into how much better the graphics are on the more expensive one

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-7500U-vs-Intel-i7-8750H/2863vs3237

 

Ok, cheers. I don’t really know what most of that stuff in the link means but the stuff about mobile chips I get. 

Looks like I need to convince the wife to let me spend an extra £250...

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8 minutes ago, peterpansnr said:

Ok, cheers. I don’t really know what most of that stuff in the link means but the stuff about mobile chips I get. 

Looks like I need to convince the wife to let me spend an extra £250...

No worries, another to consider would be this - https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.003-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-57YT_2156569.html

lol I feel your pain mate, I build my own PC's as a hobby and the missus thinks it's a crazy waste of money. 

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11 minutes ago, bennytee said:

No worries, another to consider would be this - https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.003-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-57YT_2156569.html

lol I feel your pain mate, I build my own PC's as a hobby and the missus thinks it's a crazy waste of money. 

Thanks. I’m probably better off going for the i7 with 16 RAM than that one though being that the leap in cash isn’t that steep, aren’t I? 

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1 hour ago, bennytee said:

I sync mine with USB C, it works fine if I'm understanding you correctly.

They are quite different machines, to be honest, the Surface Pro is a lot smaller for a start and it will depend on your usage

The Surface Pro is more of a portable tablet come notebook with more emphasis on being carried around, while the XPS is a bulkier PC that focuses on getting even demanding tasks done. The choice one has to make between these two portable options depends largely on just how mobile they plan to be.

The Surface for instance is going to be a lot more comfortable to hold for extended periods of time.  Essentially the surface is a small tablet you can use as a full-size laptop and the XPS is a laptop you can use as a tablet

I won’t be taking it out of the house often, if ever, it’ll be my personal computer that I watch videos and play FM on. 

The Dell only has the newer thin USB connection, as opposed to the older, chunkier one, I was wondering if there was an adapter perhaps? A USB Type C to Type A I believe it would be? But I could be wrong? 

Cheers!

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27 minutes ago, peterpansnr said:

Thanks. I’m probably better off going for the i7 with 16 RAM than that one though being that the leap in cash isn’t that steep, aren’t I? 

Definately 

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5 minutes ago, FM-Lee said:

I won’t be taking it out of the house often, if ever, it’ll be my personal computer that I watch videos and play FM on. 

The Dell only has the newer thin USB connection, as opposed to the older, chunkier one, I was wondering if there was an adapter perhaps? A USB Type C to Type A I believe it would be? But I could be wrong? 

Cheers!

Has to be the XPS then

Right i'm with you now on the USB thing, I use one of these on my tablet which has the same connection https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Anker-Converts-Resistor-ChromeBook/dp/B01AHKYIRS

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14 minutes ago, bennytee said:

Has to be the XPS then

Right i'm with you now on the USB thing, I use one of these on my tablet which has the same connection https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Anker-Converts-Resistor-ChromeBook/dp/B01AHKYIRS

I’m not sure that would work? As I still don’t think I’d be able to plug my iPhone into the XPS with that? As the iPhone cable still uses the older USB connection type? 

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20 minutes ago, FM-Lee said:

I’m not sure that would work? As I still don’t think I’d be able to plug my iPhone into the XPS with that? As the iPhone cable still uses the older USB connection type? 

this?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Adapter-MacBook-Chromebook-Pixelbook/dp/B01GKS2HCE/ref=sr_1_11?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1539724582&sr=1-11&keywords=usb+a+to+c

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Hi guys

looking to order a new laptop in next couple of days ready for FM19, not played since 2016 and usually only play with commentary only and 2/3 leagues running .

 

looking to play this version a bit more  in depth so would like to play some games using 3D match engine 

Budget £700-800

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50 minutes ago, kalou2006 said:

Hi guys

looking to order a new laptop in next couple of days ready for FM19, not played since 2016 and usually only play with commentary only and 2/3 leagues running .

 

looking to play this version a bit more  in depth so would like to play some games using 3D match engine 

Budget £700-800

This - https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-EN184T-ASUS-FX503VM-EN184T_2315679.html

or this https://www.ebuyer.com/827234-msi-gl62mvr-7rfx-1060-gaming-laptop-9s7-16jbe2-1269?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pricespy&utm_campaign=pcomp

practically the same

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1 hour ago, bennytee said:

That looks like it could do the trick, however, I’ve now stumbled across sports that the XPS has serious fan issues and using its Wi-Fi can close down the whole router.

I think I’m going insane in the search for a new machine! 

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I am currently looking at getting a new laptop, mainly because mine is almost 10 years old and the battery has packed up (have to consistently plug it in and new battery is expensive).

Looking at the Acer Swift 3, looks decent with new gen 8 processor but has 1.6 ghz quad core (3.4 ghz). I am not great with computer specs, is this enough because I read the minimum specs for football manager is 2.2ghz? 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-swift-3-14-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10180997-pdt.html

I would basically just be playing football manager 19 (playing 3d), browsing the internet, watching videos on youtube. Do you think this laptop would be sufficient?

Last football manager I played was 17 on my 10 year old laptop with 6gb ram and it worked ok even with 3d so I assume these new laptops will be up to scratch right?

Any help much appreciated :)

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7 hours ago, bennytee said:

Excellent, thinking about it is there anything with a bigger hard drive so I can put and iTunes library on it as well and just general use of internet and possible downloads? 

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