duccio Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I'm thinking of building a new PC at some point fairly soon. With Win10 64bit, how much RAM can FM alone use? What is the ideal amount of RAM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 8gb should be sufficient. However, never any harm in getting more RAM. It can have a small effect. If you're building your own then RAM is relatively cheap. However, you don't need a massive amount, and unless you're photo editing or video editing then 16/32 gb could be wasteful. Start with 8gb and if you need more just add it - it's the cheapest component. I'd concentrate on the processor and graphics card (if you're going to play 3D) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duccio Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Smurf said: 8gb should be sufficient. However, never any harm in getting more RAM. It can have a small effect. If you're building your own then RAM is relatively cheap. However, you don't need a massive amount, and unless you're photo editing or video editing then 16/32 gb could be wasteful. Start with 8gb and if you need more just add it - it's the cheapest component. Ok, thanks. I do some photo editing and like to run several programs simultaniously with FM. If its 8 gb for FM, then I probably should look at 16 gb minimum. My more modest current system apears to be on the verge of choking at times. 5 hours ago, Smurf said: I'd concentrate on the processor and graphics card (if you're going to play 3D) What do you think are some good for value higher end processors and graphics cards at the moment? How is FM with multiple processor cores? I vaguely remember reading that speed is more important than the nuber of cores. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I don't know what your budget is - but PC Specialist do some excellent builds and you pick components. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duccio Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 For sure I was very imprecise in my question. I will have a look at PC Specialist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1979 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Will a Panasonic toughbook play fm? It's i5 2.4gh. Not got a big budget so having to search ebay. Don't know much about computers but saw it was i5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 You'd have to link to it so we can see. What is your budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1979 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 About 150-200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Would depend on what i5 it is... I'd worry about buying any laptop on ebay for that budget though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovis Dexter Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Welshace said: Would depend on what i5 it is... I'd worry about buying any laptop on ebay for that budget though... I’d worry about buying any laptop on ebay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrinko Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hello boys, I wanted to new notebook and I found this 2. Which is better to play FM and some movies watches, internet and facebook. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-YOGA-14-Inch-Convertible-Notebook/dp/B01MU8UJI1/ref=sr_1_115?m=A2OAJ7377F756P&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1523211782&sr=8-115&keywords=laptop&th=1https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-520S-14IKB-14-Inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/B074JDMDYH/ref=sr_1_127?m=A2OAJ7377F756P&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1523212175&sr=8-127&keywords=laptop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Tyrinko said: Hello boys, I wanted to new notebook and I found this 2. Which is better to play FM and some movies watches, internet and facebook. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-YOGA-14-Inch-Convertible-Notebook/dp/B01MU8UJI1/ref=sr_1_115?m=A2OAJ7377F756P&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1523211782&sr=8-115&keywords=laptop&th=1https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-520S-14IKB-14-Inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/B074JDMDYH/ref=sr_1_127?m=A2OAJ7377F756P&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1523212175&sr=8-127&keywords=laptop Neither of them I would recommend - especially for that money - are you stuck to Amazon? OR buy from anywhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovis Dexter Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Have a look at Novatech. They do not put bloatware on any of their computers and they provide lifelong technical assistance. Over time I’ve bought a desktop, a laptop and a load of extras from them and found the service to be very good. For the record I have no connection with them other than as a customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrinko Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Smurf said: Neither of them I would recommend - especially for that money - are you stuck to Amazon? OR buy from anywhere? Amazon isn't my preferent seller i am just looking for good deals - i've got about £500 for new laptop (+/- some pounds if it great deal). I am in England at the moment so i would prefer english sellers. Do you know about great notebook for this money?? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tyrinko said: Amazon isn't my preferent seller i am just looking for good deals - i've got about £500 for new laptop (+/- some pounds if it great deal). I am in England at the moment so i would prefer english sellers. Do you know about great notebook for this money?? Thanks This is what I can find 650 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2145527.html 600 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html 580 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JD21-068-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-in-Sliver_2197296.html The one at 650 is the better of the 3. The one for 580 has a slightly better processor - but not by much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrinko Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, Smurf said: This is what I can find 650 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM969T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM969T_2145527.html 600 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html 580 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JD21-068-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-in-Sliver_2197296.html The one at 650 is the better of the 3. The one for 580 has a slightly better processor - but not by much. Thanks a lot. I will try one of them. Just asking - all of them will run FM without problems and 3D matches without issues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Yeh they should be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8sray Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 @Smurf need a new laptop mostly for FM and maybe a few low spec games was wondering if this would be any good for fm18 with a big database and a good few leagues, you seem to know what to look for so cheers in advance https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GDAEK.003-Acer-Aspire-F15-F5-573G_2186600.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8sray Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, S8sray said: @Smurf need a new laptop mostly for FM and maybe a few low spec games was wondering if this would be any good for fm18 with a big database and a good few leagues, you seem to know what to look for so cheers in advance https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GDAEK.003-Acer-Aspire-F15-F5-573G_2186600.html Or is this one much better for not that much more money https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JD21-068-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-in-Sliver_2197296.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, S8sray said: Or is this one much better for not that much more money https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JD21-068-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-in-Sliver_2197296.html Defo that one What's your budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8sray Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 @Smurf I didn't really want to spend over £450 but when I've had a look about can't really find much , will only really use it for FM but want plenty of leagues and a big database. So think I might have to pay more. If you could give me a few recommendations between £450-550 it would be much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Best you can probably get is quoted above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy_Wonda Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Not 100% related... But received my new laptop today... and now FM repeatedly sets me as being from the USA with MLS as the default league (as opposed to my usual EPL) any ideas on what I change on Windows 10 to sort this minor quibble..? Me and google don't really get on.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelTonge Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 @Smurf I'm wanting to buy a laptop as my current one has broke. I'd rather use LaptopsDirect if possible, or Saveonlaptops if people have used there before. I want to play FM in 3D, facepacks/logos and the like, whilst I also play AoE and other older games from time to time. FM, however, is my main game. Apart from that, I just scroll using facebook/twitter and for my uni work. My budget is 900 maximum. I've read that I will need a better processor (I7?) and an SSD is preferable. What you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Boy_Wonda said: Not 100% related... But received my new laptop today... and now FM repeatedly sets me as being from the USA with MLS as the default league (as opposed to my usual EPL) any ideas on what I change on Windows 10 to sort this minor quibble..? Me and google don't really get on.... Probably should change your regional settings Step 1: Go to Settings, then 'Time & language' Step 2: Select 'Region and language' on the left navigation pane. Step 3: Under 'Windows and apps might use your country or region to give you local content' select your new region. 2 hours ago, MichaelTonge said: @Smurf I'm wanting to buy a laptop as my current one has broke. I'd rather use LaptopsDirect if possible, or Saveonlaptops if people have used there before. I want to play FM in 3D, facepacks/logos and the like, whilst I also play AoE and other older games from time to time. FM, however, is my main game. Apart from that, I just scroll using facebook/twitter and for my uni work. My budget is 900 maximum. I've read that I will need a better processor (I7?) and an SSD is preferable. What you think? 15 inch https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JB92-880-MSI-GP62MVR-7RFX(Leopard-Pro)-880UK_2185471.html https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-1293-MSI-GL62M-7REX-1293UK_2142279.html - more storage on main drive 17 inch https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/GL753VE-GC024T-ASUS-ROG-Strix-GL753VE-GC024T_2139755.html Any of these are good and as you wanted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8sray Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 @Smurf thanks for all the advice you give out , I didn't have clue what to look for before reading this thread. Out of these 3 which would you go for and is there that much difference between them? https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM968T-ASUS-Gaming-ZX553VD-DM968T_2145526.html https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JD21-068-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-in-Sliver_2197296.html Cheers in advance for all the replys you give out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 You might have other considerations - there's the Acer that has longer battery when not plugged in The Asus and MSI have no SSD drive, whereas not as important, it could sway you if you wanted an SSD. Based on everything I see - the Acer would be my choice - but it's ulitmately up to you. There's certainly not much to choose from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelTonge Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Smurf said: Probably should change your regional settings Step 1: Go to Settings, then 'Time & language' Step 2: Select 'Region and language' on the left navigation pane. Step 3: Under 'Windows and apps might use your country or region to give you local content' select your new region. 15 inch https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JB92-880-MSI-GP62MVR-7RFX(Leopard-Pro)-880UK_2185471.html https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-1293-MSI-GL62M-7REX-1293UK_2142279.html - more storage on main drive 17 inch https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/GL753VE-GC024T-ASUS-ROG-Strix-GL753VE-GC024T_2139755.html Any of these are good and as you wanted I'm used to a 15'' so that's better for me. Do you think those would be able to play, say, 30-40 leagues with 80-95k players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Fairly soon I will be getting a Coffee Lake i7 probably with a GTX 1080. Just wondering if any fellow member has a Scan 3XS lappy, or possibly a Asus ROG machine? Wondering a out the build quality mainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, MichaelTonge said: I'm used to a 15'' so that's better for me. Do you think those would be able to play, say, 30-40 leagues with 80-95k players? Not a bad price for the latter, but the new i5’s are faster than the 7700HQ. You will probably be better waiting for a bit for Asus to ship with 8th gen IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelTonge Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Transk53 said: Not a bad price for the latter, but the new i5’s are faster than the 7700HQ. You will probably be better waiting for a bit for Asus to ship with 8th gen IMHO. You or Smurf got any recommendations if this is true? I'd want the best processor going (needs to be on laptopsdirect or saveonlaptops as I'm buying on finance). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, MichaelTonge said: You or Smurf got any recommendations if this is true? I'd want the best processor going (needs to be on laptopsdirect or saveonlaptops as I'm buying on finance). Unfortunately not particularly. I have saved up a big budget for the best part of year for a desktop replacement, so not getting one just for the purpose of playing FM. Smurf is right above regarding that more is not necessarily better with system ram etc. As far as I understand it, FM is CPU tied still, so I would concentrate there. I am a seasoned engineer, not a FM player, so my adivce could be expensive minded. My point about 8th gen is that laptops have a limited upgrade path, so if you buy a 7th gen (ie 7700), you are buying a step behind. However, for you that may not matter at all, but as I said the members above will no more about game requirements than me. My last FM game was 13, some five years ago. Hope I haven’t mucked your plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Well 8th Feb are on the way. But it will probably mean a hike in price... but a drop in price for 7th gen I wouldn't wait around especially if you're limited by budget the I7 7700Hq is probably the best processor you can afford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 On 14/04/2018 at 09:07, MichaelTonge said: You or Smurf got any recommendations if this is true? I'd want the best processor going (needs to be on laptopsdirect or saveonlaptops as I'm buying on finance). Just one thing to add. If you are sticking with normal HD, IE. not the newer 4K screens, a GTX 1060/1070 will be more than good enough. Look out for deals as well. Some retailers like Overclockers will do 24 hour sales sometimes. Also the HP Omen are good machines too. Offer a decent balance overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8sray Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 On 13/04/2018 at 14:36, Smurf said: You might have other considerations - there's the Acer that has longer battery when not plugged in The Asus and MSI have no SSD drive, whereas not as important, it could sway you if you wanted an SSD. Based on everything I see - the Acer would be my choice - but it's ulitmately up to you. There's certainly not much to choose from. @Smurf sorry to bother you again. I've decided to up my budget a little to £650 after looking around best I could find was this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.002-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-53HF_2283341.html do you think anything else quoted before is better or any other recommendations for this price? . Or does this Acer look a good choice mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Smurf said: Well 8th Feb are on the way. But it will probably mean a hike in price... but a drop in price for 7th gen I wouldn't wait around especially if you're limited by budget the I7 7700Hq is probably the best processor you can afford. No doubt. Some of the custom builders charging by the part will probably add a fair bit. Some of the big boys though probably won’t add too much. Of course though I am in the position of being able to wait, but I know from previous years how frustrating it is to forced from the pleasure of playing FM. Hence the need to purchase quickly. Going to be spending over two grand on mine, so I have done my reasearch and found that Scan with the 3xS systems are suiting me personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM1903 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Hey guys, i’m finally going to buy a laptop with the i8 gens due out soon, had issues with a couple last year and couldn’t stand the gaming looks and red keyboards. Just want to know if a rpm matters if i have a ssd? looking for hybrid, thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 13 hours ago, S8sray said: @Smurf sorry to bother you again. I've decided to up my budget a little to £650 after looking around best I could find was this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.002-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-53HF_2283341.html do you think anything else quoted before is better or any other recommendations for this price? . Or does this Acer look a good choice mate? Looks good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Transk53 said: No doubt. Some of the custom builders charging by the part will probably add a fair bit. Some of the big boys though probably won’t add too much. Of course though I am in the position of being able to wait, but I know from previous years how frustrating it is to forced from the pleasure of playing FM. Hence the need to purchase quickly. Going to be spending over two grand on mine, so I have done my reasearch and found that Scan with the 3xS systems are suiting me personally. Yeh I'll be the same next year looking to spend 2-3k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 9 hours ago, GM1903 said: Hey guys, i’m finally going to buy a laptop with the i8 gens due out soon, had issues with a couple last year and couldn’t stand the gaming looks and red keyboards. Just want to know if a rpm matters if i have a ssd? looking for hybrid, thanks in advance For FM probably won't see huge gains in ssd. But you would for overall computer performance. My order of selection would be Processor Graphics card Hard drive Ram I'd spend as much as I could on the processor. I'd then look at the graphics card for 3D matches and other games if inclined. Hard drive would be next big spend... then ram as its the cheapest component. I'd be looking at i8 xxxx K 1080 or quadro 512gb ssd 16gb ram. Total overkill for FM but I'm a graphic designer and need the power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8sray Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, Smurf said: Looks good Cheers for the reply , I'll probably go for this one then latter this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM1903 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 @Smurf Bloody hell, I am also looking for a powerful laptop but isn’t 1060/1070 sufficent? I was considering 1060 or 1070 i8 S series but i assume the K is the I9? 256-512 pcle or Nvme(which is best?) SSD 16gb ram Then again i do have the money 2k could prob go to 2.5k seeing as laptops aren’t getting any cheaper and want mine to last a good 5 years or so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, GM1903 said: @Smurf Bloody hell, I am also looking for a powerful laptop but isn’t 1060/1070 sufficent? I was considering 1060 or 1070 i8 S series but i assume the K is the I9? 256-512 pcle or Nvme(which is best?) SSD 16gb ram Then again i do have the money 2k could prob go to 2.5k seeing as laptops aren’t getting any cheaper and want mine to last a good 5 years or so No, the k suffix means a unlocked multiplier for no restrictions on overclocking. The i9 is a new iteration of the Skylake X architecture. 10 core plus. Yes 1060 or 1070 is a good chip and more than sufficient for FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrinko Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Just quick question. I found this one https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-hp-envy-x360-amd-ryzen-5-2500u-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-amd-radeon-v-a1-2ph22ea/version.asp Is it good enought for FM18 with 3D matches and some addons??? Is it touch screen playing FM just my idea or reality??? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Tyrinko said: Just quick question. I found this one https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-hp-envy-x360-amd-ryzen-5-2500u-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-amd-radeon-v-a1-2ph22ea/version.asp Is it good enought for FM18 with 3D matches and some addons??? Is it touch screen playing FM just my idea or reality??? Thanks I would say that would be an expensive ornament Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Tyrinko said: Just quick question. I found this one https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-hp-envy-x360-amd-ryzen-5-2500u-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-amd-radeon-v-a1-2ph22ea/version.asp Is it good enought for FM18 with 3D matches and some addons??? Is it touch screen playing FM just my idea or reality??? Thanks Doesn’t meet minimum specs I believe. Need a base clock speed of 2. 2 Ghz. This looks to be just under, even with AMD’s version of Turbo Boost. That what it looks to me. Also as Smurf, that is expensive for a refurb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJonnyBoy Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I was wondering if you guys thought that a i7 6700 with a GTX 1050 TI 4GB OC gpu would be good enough to play Fm18 while streaming to twitch? Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelTonge Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 On 13/04/2018 at 14:36, Smurf said: @Smurf you got any recommendations for laptops that are similar to the ones suggested but less 'gamer' laptops? Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, RedJonnyBoy said: I was wondering if you guys thought that a i7 6700 with a GTX 1050 TI 4GB OC gpu would be good enough to play Fm18 while streaming to twitch? Thanks in advance. I've never used twitch. But it sounds like a good setup. I couldn't really see any issues as long as you have good upload speeds on your broadband. 11 minutes ago, MichaelTonge said: @Smurf you got any recommendations for laptops that are similar to the ones suggested but less 'gamer' laptops? Thanks in advance I'll have to come back to this as I'm away on holidays at the moment and no access to my laptop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transk53 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, RedJonnyBoy said: I was wondering if you guys thought that a i7 6700 with a GTX 1050 TI 4GB OC gpu would be good enough to play Fm18 while streaming to twitch? Thanks in advance. Should think so. I would regually stream from Youtube in the background while playing a game on the ME. The only issue I ever had was a slight sound drop out when the ME took over. However, I was the only one streaming in my flat, if you are in a house with multiple devices like consoles and such like, you may get a bit of buffering or whatever. But no, that i7 6700 still a very nice chip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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