bassistuk Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 With everyone much focusing on the 3D match engine, does anyone feel that the text commentary is no longer needed? How many of you honestly still read the commentary? I find myself not looking at it at all these days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy8chimp Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I still like it. If nothing else, the flash commentary for a goal is handy if i have one eye on the tele whilst playing, which is often the case. Also im not usually one for the fluffier side of the game... But for FM 18 i was writing a topic based on a particular player/role... I think it was my regista season, and when that player scored a goal the commentary informed me it was that players birthday. Would have skipped it without a thought had i not been writing the thread... But as i was, it was a nice little touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemeuresnew Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 you need text commentary to know what has really happened. without text how do you know every shot that goes into the corner flag is supposed to be showing as a close shot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Ingersoll Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 if you ask some people they will say they wish the text commentary was all they had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I glance at it sometimes but could do without it. If it is not having a negative impact on the game development, there is little reason to remove it at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Maybe substitute the text commentary for audio commentary. FIFA Manager had it although you would have to make sure its not repetitive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimey Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Text commentary is good and provides valuable information. I personally enjoy reading about milestone / debut goal / goal against old club after a player scores. Audio commentary, on the other hand, is a terrible idea. The current technology cannot adapt player/club names into various sentences to make the commentary sufficiently diverse and relevant. As a result they have to resort to vague expressions such as 'This player is on top form'. Even EA's audio commentary falls flat and repetitive after a few games, I don't believe it's going to work until sound technology makes huge improvements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenc Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Not sure if outdated. But considering it contains like dozens of variations of that good ol' "How did he miss that!?*" chestnut, it's just oft terribly misleading. Replacing it with the typically over the top audio would be glorious though for any rage quitter's blood pressure, in particular considering FM's heavily compressed nature on "highlights" viewing. Now FM does a fantastic job at mimicing commentary -- but personally I can't see Arsene et all giving a fuss about TV commentary (and they're better off for it). On FM, also in parts due to limited animtions/sometimes ambiguous feedback in general, players tend to see it as something that it's not meant to be however... This gets more confusing considering that some of it actually gives additional clues as to what's actually going on, rather than merely mimicing sensationalist punditry. Tactical changes from the opposition, etc. Reactions to talks,... From the previews, it seems it's expaneded on that front even for FM19. Still, how did he miss that?! * go into the game's folder, look for the events.cfg and search it for the string "miss" -- this isn't exaggerating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerdMuller Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 It still adds for me to the 3D and when you review a match its nice to have a clue what was really going on. I still consider it an important part of the match calculation and presentation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassistuk Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Yea agreed with all comments... Also I think audio commentary will be impossible due to the nature of the speed of highlights. I don't think audio could catch up with the speed of the text. It would sound sped up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick Wilstra Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Audio commentary tends to get old real quick. Even IRL games I get bored by all the cliché expressions of the commentary. Text commentary can provide some additional information. How else am I supposed to know whether that penalty was because of a real foul or a dive? It will be a while before the match engine is detailed enough to see the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kick Wilstra said: Audio commentary tends to get old real quick. Even IRL games I get bored by all the cliché expressions of the commentary This. I can only assume those who advocate audio commentary have never played another game where it exists. It's routinely dreadful, purely because you can only code them to say so much and there's bound to be repetition. The only way something like FIFA is bearable is by putting commentary in another language where you don't notice the patterns as much, or muting it altogether. And that's in a game with a shortened representation of the game. I guarantee that if it was the content of the text commentary being voiced, it would be maddening within hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 hours ago, blimey said: Text commentary is good and provides valuable information. I personally enjoy reading about milestone / debut goal / goal against old club after a player scores. Audio commentary, on the other hand, is a terrible idea. The current technology cannot adapt player/club names into various sentences to make the commentary sufficiently diverse and relevant. As a result they have to resort to vague expressions such as 'This player is on top form'. Even EA's audio commentary falls flat and repetitive after a few games, I don't believe it's going to work until sound technology makes huge improvements. MMM Think its better than you think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mennox Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 10 hours ago, westy8chimp said: I still like it. If nothing else, the flash commentary for a goal is handy if i have one eye on the tele whilst playing, which is often the case. This is the same for me. It is the first time in many many years that I been playing in 2D (3D during replays) and actually enjoying it so the commentary comes in handy. Its also been in Champ Man and FM ever since day one and would not feel the same if it was removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siepe1990 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Well, my pc can barelu run the 3d, so sometimes text is all I have. Wouldnt be able to play without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 The text commentary should be very useful for things the current ME can't convey, like how bad or controversial a call for a foul was, when dissent is happening etc. Definitely needs to be there, just also needs to be better Imagine syncing audio commentary with the speeded up highlights many FM players use! Even if the commentator's range of phrases was good it would be hilarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I can hardly read the commentary as it's so damn small!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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