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  1. 1. Simple as it sounds... is FM too easy?

    • So easy, it's not really enjoyable
      53
    • Too easy but still fun
      62
    • About right
      104
    • A bit hard
      21
    • I don't know my left from my right
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To those that believe the game is too easy, if you believe that it should be "fixed", what do you expect SI to "fix" to change that? 

As with a lot of issues, unless it's 100% widespread that there's something demonstrably wrong (I'm thinking Diablo, or the glitch that meant you couldn't even start the game a while back) then you're unlikely to be able to fix it without ruining the experience for others.

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I've never found FM an easy game. Usually takes me a lot of work with tactics and instructions to get a winning formula. But, winning matches by 4 or 5 goals from the start as Newcastle without buying anyone, without any tactical instruction (just picking Gegenpress) and without any training set ups definitely puts FM19 in the too easy category for me.

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1 hour ago, forameuss said:

To those that believe the game is too easy, if you believe that it should be "fixed", what do you expect SI to "fix" to change that? 

As with a lot of issues, unless it's 100% widespread that there's something demonstrably wrong (I'm thinking Diablo, or the glitch that meant you couldn't even start the game a while back) then you're unlikely to be able to fix it without ruining the experience for others.

I am just looking to have a somewhat realistic experience with whatever team i choose... I feel what needs fixing is the tactics are outweighing the players stats.  If you can gegenpress with Cardiff to 5th in the league and constantly get 20+ shots then there is something wrong... If i had to guess, i think the player ratings are somehow being overlooked.

Here is an example.. I was predicted to be relegated..  This includes a tremendous amount of injuries as well... I am also in the german cup final vs Dortmund.  0 transfers in.  The game just seems off a bit.  Undefeated to Bayern also.

 

Used a version of a preset tactic and my own from scratch tactic. Also, on a very poor run of form the last 5 games, I was challenging for 5th place up until then.

 

P.S.  I am usually quite **** at this game... I don't cheat and struggle with every iteration before this one.  My first save this year was Man U and I won everything, usually getting 30+ shots and 65% possession.

 

I am enjoying the game very much and it looks great, just feel something is slightly off.

 

 

Update- Finished out the last game of the league and cup- adding screenshot:

 

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the gegenpress tactic seems to be overpowered and the AI can't defend against it or the ME is not calculating correctly for that tactic.

if you use gengenpress for sides like Cardiff whose players do not have the attributes to perform the tactic correctly it should fail. your players will be taking up wrong closing down positions and sorts. but ME is not calculating this? which is why you can take any obscure side and play the gengenpress and win.

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1 hour ago, forameuss said:

To those that believe the game is too easy, if you believe that it should be "fixed", what do you expect SI to "fix" to change that? 

As with a lot of issues, unless it's 100% widespread that there's something demonstrably wrong (I'm thinking Diablo, or the glitch that meant you couldn't even start the game a while back) then you're unlikely to be able to fix it without ruining the experience for others.

Shouldnt be that hard to create an AI city that can beat an AI cardiff et al. The human player will always have advantage... But that advantage is heightened when teams that should give you a challenge are awful. Just get Rashidi or Cleon to create a tactic for the worlds best teams, that against other AI of inferior players, will win majority of games. 

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I don't think it's about easy or hard at all, it's about what you want to do with your game.

There seems to be a lot of users who want to buy the best players, win everything as quick as possible, and buy anyone they want - that's fun, and SI need that market, but it's too shallow and time limited for me.

In my person games I like to start with a non-league team, only buy UK players, never spend more than I bring in in player sales, mask player stats, only buy players that my scouting team find (not names read on websites or lists), and only use my own tactics (without reading any advice or hints) - these are self imposed conditions that make the game harder and more fun for me - that's my choice, I don't see that SI should impose a style of play on anyone.

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1 hour ago, upthetoon said:

the gegenpress tactic seems to be overpowered and the AI can't defend against it or the ME is not calculating correctly for that tactic.

if you use gengenpress for sides like Cardiff whose players do not have the attributes to perform the tactic correctly it should fail. your players will be taking up wrong closing down positions and sorts. but ME is not calculating this? which is why you can take any obscure side and play the gengenpress and win.

Gegenpress does work quite effectively but I think it has two significant drawbacks. 

1.  Long balls over the top work well as your defensive line is so high.

2,  Players are asked to press and so are susceptible to fatigue, injury and so on. 

Does it balance out?  Not sure yet...

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32 minutes ago, FuSS said:

In my person games I like to start with a non-league team, only buy UK players, never spend more than I bring in in player sales, mask player stats, only buy players that my scouting team find (not names read on websites or lists), and only use my own tactics (without reading any advice or hints) - these are self imposed conditions that make the game harder and more fun for me - that's my choice, I don't see that SI should impose a style of play on anyone

Play it how you want. But what if;

Fm18: you put all those conditions in place and really enjoy playing that way and its challenging enough but if you work hard by season 20 youve got yourself promoted a few times... You got one wonderkid yth in 20 seasons of intakes and couldnt wait to develop him into a club icon. In season 53 you qualify for the qualification rounds to the europa league and just miss out on the group stage... Youve cemented yourself as a local legend forever! 

Fm19: New edition comes out, you look forward to playing the game in the same way.... But oh no, youve created your own fairly simple 442 and you win 35/38 games and get promoted season after season and every player you bid for just gets accepted without a fight, where previously u had to hardball the AI for months to unsettle a star player and you couldnt wait to see him in your team cos at one point you thought it would never happen... And you get a golden generation every other season. To top it all you beat barca 5-0 in the CL final in your first venture into European football.

Play it how you like... But i cannot stress enough, ive found the way i like to play, and doing that so far, its become much easier than before. 

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42 minutes ago, westy8chimp said:

Fm19: New edition comes out, you look forward to playing the game in the same way.... But oh no, youve created your own fairly simple 442 and you win 35/38 games and get promoted season after season and every player you bid for just gets accepted without a fight, where previously u had to hardball the AI for months to unsettle a star player and you couldnt wait to see him in your team cos at one point you thought it would never happen... And you get a golden generation every other season. To top it all you beat barca 5-0 in the CL final in your first venture into European football.

 

Have you actually done all this in a week with a non-league team?  Or just extrapolating and guessing from a beta version which still has a week left before release.

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From my point of view, fm18 was too random. The FM19 beta is more playable (not necessarily perfectly balanced but playable). FM19 still has some problems with AI's ability to use some strategies and tools that a player knows and uses. Probably AI will be improved over time. An experienced player can indeed be frustrated if the game becomes too easy for his level and knowledges. However, only experienced players have the necessary knowledge to add to the game the additional difficulty they want. A beginner will not know how to optimize his game and a casual player will not have the time or the patience to learn all that is necessary to create a game with the difficulty he wants. Most beginners and casual gamers will use tactical aberrations completely unbalanced (3 strikers on attack duty combined with a very risky mentality) trying to achieve the desired satisfaction.  I do not think the game should be too easy, but I do not think the less experienced players should be "pushed to the cheating area".

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There is no easy or short answer for that. Everyone could make this game easier oder harder to play,  just in the way it's been played. 

If there is something too easy than it was and I guess it will be squad building over more than 2 or 3 seasons.

The longer you are managing a club the bigger is the advantage.

But again, it's up to you to play it more realistic and not managing Wengeresk. 

I also like to play multi manager saves. Using different tactics and philosophies, one manager trying to build up success over several seasons and the other one a journey man, who is managing a club no longer than two seasons.

 

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6 minutes ago, yowg8ynwa said:

 

Have you actually done all this in a week with a non-league team?  Or just extrapolating and guessing from a beta version which still has a week left before release.

No, the point is its irrelevant to tell us how to artificially make the game harder... We all enjoy the game the way we play it and all are equal. Pretentious £%_%& going on about 'dont be liverpool' arent getting the issue. Its no harder at llm by the way... Ive been there and done that... Whether you take on the bottom club in tier 21 or the bottom club in the Epl doesnt matter, requires the same skillset to get to the top... (ability to create logical tactic, keep players happy and fit, sign better players than you currently have or develop the players you have) it just takes an extra 21 seasons to win the Epl...

Idgaf about regen faces... But for some people its gamebreaking, i dont go to those threads and go on about hoe its not an issue. If i was going to comment, id make it relevant and objective i. E i would compare the regen face in fm18 to the regen face in fm19. 

 

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30 minutes ago, westy8chimp said:

No, the point is its irrelevant to tell us how to artificially make the game harder... We all enjoy the game the way we play it and all are equal. Pretentious £%_%& going on about 'dont be liverpool' arent getting the issue. Its no harder at llm by the way... Ive been there and done that... Whether you take on the bottom club in tier 21 or the bottom club in the Epl doesnt matter, requires the same skillset to get to the top... (ability to create logical tactic, keep players happy and fit, sign better players than you currently have or develop the players you have) it just takes an extra 21 seasons to win the Epl...

Idgaf about regen faces... But for some people its gamebreaking, i dont go to those threads and go on about hoe its not an issue. If i was going to comment, id make it relevant and objective i. E i would compare the regen face in fm18 to the regen face in fm19. 

 

But you haven't done a fair comparison.  What you have done is compare full release FM18 to beta FM19.  It wouldn't be objective to compare two different products at different stages of its development cycle, no matter how advanced beta should be.

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6 minutes ago, pembehasan said:

Please make it harder for full release.

Ha, maybe i should have just kept it short and to the point like this :thup:

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2 hours ago, yowg8ynwa said:

 

Have you actually done all this in a week with a non-league team?  Or just extrapolating and guessing from a beta version which still has a week left before release.

exactly lol, one season is noting to judge the entire game on, am in my second season and the ai are actually building formidable teams, liverpool allrdy have dybala and now bidding for savic from lazio, most of yous are assuming far to much. any of yous actually into ur 3rd season yet? show me screenshots of all these easy acomplishments in fm19, these non league teams winning c.l within 10 seasons or 5 back to back c.l triumphs.

 

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The OP questions needs to be much more specific.

The benchmarks are going to hugely differ (talking from personal experience).

For some players it's an incredibly hard game if they can't get their lower league side romping the league tiers in a couple seasons time.
Ditto for some if their average side loses some and wins some (as tends to happen in footie -- and when that same side is managed by AI, btw...)
Ditto if they on occasion get the sack at a club (which the AI sees all the time, as real managers tend to do also a bit).
For some it's simply too "easy" because there is no proper competition at the top (shaky top teams, and managers/management).

Etc. etc. etc. etc. That sounds fairly obvious, but if you look at how people play/what they experience/expect, it isn't.

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all it takes is one bad result, a flood of injuries and bad form to kick in to ruin an entire season even career, these so called godly players reload from last save point when this stuff happens, any experienced fm player knows even the best of teams can fall apart, season 2? season 3? who knows whats round the corer, it really is alot of nonsense the game is to easy just cause you had a fantastic season reloading when u feel like it, nobody is that lucky to avoid this forever, it comes for all if you play LEGIT!

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10 minutes ago, iAlwaysWin said:

exactly lol, one season is noting to judge the entire game on, am in my second season and the ai are actually building formidable teams, liverpool allrdy have dybala and now bidding for savic from lazio, most of yous are assuming far to much. any of yous actually into ur 3rd season yet? show me screenshots of all these easy acomplishments in fm19, these non league teams winning c.l within 10 seasons or 5 back to back c.l triumphs.

 

Actually, you are very wrong.  This football sim should be the most accurate/realistic in the first year... As time passes then it becomes more dependent on your choices, but Liverpool should feel like Liverpool, Cardiff should feel like Cardiff etc. etc.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, weezy3313 said:

Actually, you are very wrong.  This football sim should be the most accurate/realistic in the first year... As time passes then it becomes more dependent on your choices, but Liverpool should feel like Liverpool, Cardiff should feel like Cardiff etc. etc.

 

 

that post has nothing to do what am talking about, cardiff should feel like cardiff? what nonsense is this lol, football is unpredictable, did leicester feel like leicester when they where top of the league?

 

 

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It means that I shouldn't be able to jump right into a Cardiff side and have miraculous results the first year. 

Football like every other sport IS predictable.. Hence the odds that come from sportsbooks.  Do strange things happen? Absolutely, and they still should.  Do strange things happen in real life as much as FM 19?  Absolutely not, not even close

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7 minutes ago, weezy3313 said:

It means that I shouldn't be able to jump right into a Cardiff side and have miraculous results the first year. 

Football like every other sport IS predictable.. Hence the odds that come from sportsbooks.  Do strange things happen? Absolutely, and they still should.  Do strange things happen in real life as much as FM 19?  Absolutely not, not even close

go cardiff again and again and again and you wont be so lucky, your argument is flawed based of half a season on a good run.

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Since I voted that it felt "about right", I've got 7 draws and 3 losses from 10 games, so I'm feeling I should have put "a bit hard". ;)

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10 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

Miles announced just over a week ago that the overall win percentage for human managers in FM18 was 62.24%.

The FM19 human win percentage is currently lower than this. Make of that what you will. 

I am absolutely responsible for a lot of this loss % tbf.

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Okay, it's not statistically perfect but I picked up a very very very weak team in Italian serie C lower legue, Imolese, that was readmitted to the legue so it basically is a serie D team (most of players are judged by the staff at that level)  plus some not particularly exciting loans. First transfer window disabled, so no meddling with free agents and other loans.

Well I used one of my most balanced tactic from FM18, nothing fancy or overpowered, a simple 433 counter (433 with wings not the semicheat with 3 strikers) with high pressing and voilà, 6 matches won, zero goals conceded, last match the opposition, Monza, had a hard time to put a single shot on target.

Same tactic in serie A on FM18 took months to work pretty well and anyway opponents put out a fight more often than not.

C'mon guys, it's boooooring!

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I commented on the other thread, saying that I have seen a lot of people seemingly winning very easily in the 1st season, and that I had hoped the game didn't become too easy. But I think it needs to be judged on more than just 1 season or in some peoples case a hand full of games, really need to see how people get on in 2-3 seasons before starting judging it really, plus this is only the beta still.

I voted for it's about right, I'm playing as Pompey at the minute and have had moments where it's been easy and had difficult moments. In the 1st season we won league 1, but it went to the final day, and our form in the final 15games was terrible and we nearly blew it. So far in the championship we are 13th after 21 games, and our form has been very inconsistent, we have made some decent signings, so I wouldn't say it's to easy.

Also a friend of mine is playing as Aresnal, and even though he won the prem title and carabao cup in the 1st season, he is finding the 2nd season much harder.

I think if your gonna play as teams like Liverpool, Man city or Man utd, then its always going to be fairly easy to a point, especially as Liverpool seem to be very high powered this year, Man city's squad is incredible and man utd have massive transfer budgets. At some stage I plan to do a long term Man utd save of 7-9 seasons as I always do, and I'm sure I will be pretty successful and find it easy at times, but I like to do one save where I can win multiple trophies haha, and when your playing as a big club with a huge transfer budget that is kind of inevitable. But in previous years I have never been truly dominanted like winning the league every year or champs league 4-5 years in a row that you see some people do, my saves have always been quite competitive with other teams winning as well. I also always like to keep give myself limits, by keeping to man utd's traditions of bringing youth through (Mason Greenwood this year).

 

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5 minutes ago, sedge11 said:

I commented on the other thread, saying that I have seen a lot of people seemingly winning very easily in the 1st season, and that I had hoped the game didn't become too easy. But I think it needs to be judged on more than just 1 season or in some peoples case a hand full of games, really need to see how people get on in 2-3 seasons before starting judging it really, plus this is only the beta still.

I voted for it's about right, I'm playing as Pompey at the minute and have had moments where it's been easy and had difficult moments. In the 1st season we won league 1, but it went to the final day, and our form in the final 15games was terrible and we nearly blew it. So far in the championship we are 13th after 21 games, and our form has been very inconsistent, we have made some decent signings, so I wouldn't say it's to easy.

Also a friend of mine is playing as Aresnal, and even though he won the prem title and carabao cup in the 1st season, he is finding the 2nd season much harder.

I think if your gonna play as teams like Liverpool, Man city or Man utd, then its always going to be fairly easy to a point, especially as Liverpool seem to be very high powered this year, Man city's squad is incredible and man utd have massive transfer budgets. At some stage I plan to do a long term Man utd save of 7-9 seasons as I always do, and I'm sure I will be pretty successful and find it easy at times, but I like to do one save where I can win multiple trophies haha, and when your playing as a big club with a huge transfer budget that is kind of inevitable. But in previous years I have never been truly dominanted like winning the league every year or champs league 4-5 years in a row that you see some people do, my saves have always been quite competitive with other teams winning as well. I also always like to keep give myself limits, by keeping to man utd's traditions of bringing youth through (Mason Greenwood this year).

 

Won the league, and now mid-table the following year and that sounds spot on to you?   Could it happen? yes  the odds of it happening maybe 1000-1

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1 minute ago, sedge11 said:

I also always like to keep give myself limits, by keeping to man utd's traditions of bringing youth through (Mason Greenwood this year

The trouble is you dont need to do much to bring youth through. What with the injury bug... I resulted in playing mason in season 1 scored in the cup final, vs arsenal. In isolation all these comments i make are very easy to defend by the naysayers.... But mctominay scored 15 goals for me as my backup target man... 

Didnt matter how many injuries stacked up... Just threw in guys like gribbin, gomez, greenwood, mccann, martin from u21/u18 and keep steamrolling the lg.

Granted it was just one season... But id also got to xmas in two other saves (city and chelsea... So still big sides) smashing all comps.

Your friend bosses the league with arsenal first season... Fine but i doubt it was a close run thing round 80pts...bet he got 90+

The game only gets easier (historically) as the human has even more advantage in terms of squad building and player development 

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I feel that people find the game easier when they play as a midtable/bottom half side and employ different strategies including gegen who - I personally believe - is OP. So given that most of the sides will disrespect and give you space, gegenpress is rather effective against those sides. Ofc that’s just my opinion. For example, for me it’s exactly the same story every year, having a hard time vs sides that defend narrow and deep and now with the new elements like Defensive Width and Line of Engagement it will be probably harder to unlock these sides.

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9 minutes ago, weezy3313 said:

Won the league, and now mid-table the following year and that sounds spot on to you?   Could it happen? yes  the odds of it happening maybe 1000-1

Yea the championship is a tight league, even though I’m mid table I’m only 7 points of relegation. Considering Pompey are top of league 1 in real life and there’s been a good few teams that have gone up from league 1 and done well straight away in the championship, I would say it’s about ok.

 

11 minutes ago, westy8chimp said:

Your friend bosses the league with arsenal first season... Fine but i doubt it was a close run thing round 80pts...bet he got 90+

No I think he got 84 points and 2nd was on 79-80 so was relaivtely close. And now in the 2nd season he is 3rd about 8 points off top.

Also regarding the injury bug, I’ve obviosuly been lucky as it hasn’t affected me.

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@dannysheard

If you can't live with other peoples opinion, you should not start such a thread and poll.

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1 minute ago, KUBI said:

@dannysheard

If you can't live with other peoples opinion, you should not start such a thread and poll.

Fair enough. It's all just borne out of a frustration that this has everything required to be an amazing game... but it's just so easy.

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8 minuti fa, KUBI ha scritto:

@dannysheard

If you can't live with other peoples opinion, you should not start such a thread and poll.

I can live with every opinion of any people and i'm now fat even if I was not when I was playing real soccer... but I digress.

I remember a very nice and very old videogame  based on NBA, by Konami I guess, that had a "realistic" and an "arcade" mode, so players could choose what style of playing they preferred.

Or SI could introduce a handicap system, maybe scaling down attributes or players or chances in the code (I don't know how it works so can't be so specific, I guess that every simulated action is based on a chance calculated through player attributes, opposition attributes and a lot of other variables...)- Anyway I think it's the time to give players a tougher challenge, right now some people is inventing any limit or strange managerial adventures to get some fun again-

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After reading through some of these comments about it being too easy, i have a point to make. 

Sure it's easy if you are managing clubs like PSG & Manu who have massive bank rolls so you could buy virtually any player you want, several times over. Try playing blackpool or sunderland. Oof. 

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vor 26 Minuten schrieb therealpete:

After reading through some of these comments about it being too easy, i have a point to make. 

Sure it's easy if you are managing clubs like PSG & Manu who have massive bank rolls so you could buy virtually any player you want, several times over. Try playing blackpool or sunderland. Oof. 

Yes, but those top clubs have top managers for a reason. I think handling a group of 30 or more top players is in reality a lot more difficult than in FM. But the question is, should the game add more mind games? Because that's the most difficult part of managing top clubs in reality. Star players, Divas and drama queens. Ask Ancelotti why he failed at Bayern. It's about losing the dressing room.

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From my experience of over 70 hours of FM19 it is very easy to significantly reduce the number wins. It is only necessary to (not) use certain combinations of instructions. The assertion that any match can be easily won no matter how were these instructions used is only a myth.

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vor 1 Minute schrieb GreenTriangle:

From my experience of over 70 hours of FM19 it is very easy to significantly reduce the number wins. It is only necessary to (not) use certain combinations of instructions. The assertion that any match can be easily won no matter how were these instructions used is only a myth.

Which instructions make the game easy? This should be posted in the bugs forum, as it could be a flaw in the game, which could be fixed.

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2 hours ago, Eddyer98 said:

fm19 too easy, ruins the game as it isnt challenging enough

This must be a super important opinion from an expert, seeing as its been made bold.

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i fully acknowledge that im one of the best managers in FM world - probably top-3.

But even top managers would struggle getting a 25 game unbeaten run as a promoted team.

It is my impression that team dynamics has far to huge influence on results on pitch. Before christmas i was mid team. Since then i have been impossible to beat.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955220236591726092/5FA987FDD06AB966E4EE08014BC6C244ACB738FE/

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54 minutes ago, ravenation said:

i fully acknowledge that im one of the best managers in FM world - probably top-3.

But even top managers would struggle getting a 25 game unbeaten run as a promoted team.

It is my impression that team dynamics has far to huge influence on results on pitch. Before christmas i was mid team. Since then i have been impossible to beat.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955220236591726092/5FA987FDD06AB966E4EE08014BC6C244ACB738FE/

This and gegenpressing being overpowered is the reason why people are finding FM 19 too easy. It's far too easy even for a mid and low table teams to just go on unbeaten runs. Player quality should still have more weightage over superior team dynamics. Gegenpressing should be difficult to master and AI needs to be able to find holes against a gegenpressing team.

Everything else in the game is working fine imo. :thup:

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3 minutes ago, pats said:

This and gegenpressing being overpowered is the reason why people are finding FM 19 too easy. It's far too easy even for a mid and low table teams to just go on unbeaten runs. Player quality should still have more weightage over superior team dynamics. Gegenpressing should be difficult to master and AI needs to be able to find holes against a gegenpressing team.

Everything else in the game is working fine imo. :thup:

So i got promotion - but lost the FA-Trophy final. So one loss since mid december.

I also thought game loked like best version since FM16 - but i dont want to dominate and win and win. I want fo fight for the points. Hope they can do something about it before real release.

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55 minutes ago, ravenation said:

i fully acknowledge that im one of the best managers in FM world - probably top-3.

But even top managers would struggle getting a 25 game unbeaten run as a promoted team.

It is my impression that team dynamics has far to huge influence on results on pitch. Before christmas i was mid team. Since then i have been impossible to beat.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955220236591726092/5FA987FDD06AB966E4EE08014BC6C244ACB738FE/

I just hope those muppets posting about everyone claiming the game is too easy are managing Barcelona and Bayern are reading this.

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50 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said:

I just hope those muppets posting about everyone claiming the game is too easy are managing Barcelona and Bayern are reading this.

Even

- Bayern and Real Madrid IRL are suffering due to manager changes.

- Man Utd IRL struggling due to bad management and tactics.

- Valencia struggling this year with the same tactics they played last year despite finishing in the top 4.

- Chelsea struggled last year.

- Arsenal struggling as well.

- Schalke struggling after finishing 2nd.

- Koln relegated after finishing 5th.

- Stuttgart struggling after finishing 7th.

- Leicester never coming close to top 4 after winning the title.

- Betis struggling after finishing 6th.

- Montpellier never coming close after winning the title.

- Bordeaux never coming close after winning the title. 

These are all I can remember at the moment. These are all top flight clubs with good reputation IRL. Why should the game be easy with a top flight, good reputation club?

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1 hour ago, phnompenhandy said:

I just hope those muppets posting about everyone claiming the game is too easy are managing Barcelona and Bayern are reading this.

Just because the only success you have in life is winning 99% of matches in the most "realistic" football management game in the world - you dont need to call other people Muppets. Unfortunately the forum forbids me to use a better term regarding your attitude.

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Just now, ravenation said:

Just because you are a ****** that needs success in life winning 99% of matches in the most "realistic" football management game in the world - you dont need to call other people Muppets

WAAAYYYYY to miss the point  :herman:

I manage lowest league clubs and set myself academy challenges precisely because I'm the very opposite of what you accuse me of. My point is some posters in this thread make that dick accusation. So who's the muppet now? :idiot:

 

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Just now, phnompenhandy said:

WAAAYYYYY to miss the point  :herman:

I manage lowest league clubs and set myself academy challenges precisely because I'm the very opposite of what you accuse me of. My point is some posters in this thread make that dick accusation. So who's the muppet now? :idiot:

 

Academy challenges are fun - but it doesnt change that the most realistic Football simulation game seems to be have some flaws regarding result realism this year.

And as i see it my 15 new players started to perform after christmas, when the Squad dynamics got up. So it is my impression after (2 seasons with Torquay), that this is a problem that didnt persist in FM14, FM15, FM16, FM17 - FM18 i gave up after realising they didnt wanted to fix the clear bugs in the game.

This game has as i see it very few bugs - so i hope it can be adjusted somehow before the final release or final patch. Otherwise im quite sure i will ditch the game during few more seasons.

And if i dont post it in SI forum - they will not read. Are you happy now or still so bored with life you need to call other people nicknames?

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1 minute ago, ravenation said:

Academy challenges are fun - but it doesnt change that the most realistic Football simulation game seems to be have some flaws regarding result realism this year.

And as i see it my 15 new players started to perform after christmas, when the Squad dynamics got up. So it is my impression after (2 seasons with Torquay), that this is a problem that didnt persist in FM14, FM15, FM16, FM17 - FM18 i gave up after realising they didnt wanted to fix the clear bugs in the game.

This game has as i see it very few bugs - so i hope it can be adjusted somehow before the final release or final patch. Otherwise im quite sure i will ditch the game during few more seasons.

And if i dont post it in SI forum - they will not read. Are you happy now or still so bored with life you need to call other people nicknames?

If you bothered to read other threads you'd realise that I'm making the exact same points. And yeh I am bored with you so I'm out.

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1 minute ago, phnompenhandy said:

If you bothered to read other threads you'd realise that I'm making the exact same points. And yeh I am bored with you so I'm out.

Why in earth schould I bother reading all posts in the forum, where there is a post with a poll called "IS FM to easy".

Thank you - you just made my day.

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