knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 ARGUS 352 looks OK. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, c0nte said: can you share your starting eleven ss I got one A team for league (first picture) and second A bis team for all cups. I switch between them each game to keep everybody happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 There appears to be a massive problem to produce stats like this with a top side. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Baggio Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'm playing as Bayern but in my 1st game post patch using the Sympathy 442 - won 6-0, 12 clear cut chances, 10 half chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Spike said: How is this possible? Winning every game & with a GD of over 160 is so unrealistic. Out of interest why are most of your players showing as Alienated under the Playing Time heading? For the alienated it s because of when i took the screenshot was the end of season FA CUP final And ECC final which my B team (cup team plays) so A team players are not happy. I switch between two sides between league and cups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypandy44 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Keep losing stupid games, even at home. Conceding way to much. This is third season, and a pretty strong Schalke team so hoped for better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Was slightly concerned the update might ruin Tequila Sunrise tactic which has been going well, but based on first game hopefully not; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, knap said: There appears to be a massive problem to produce stats like this with a top side. Yeah that Argus is definitely the most solid defensively that I have seen this year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Tequila should be fine if anything it may be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Early Northern Soul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Can only suggest dropping DL and LOE to higher and perhaps drop mentality to positive or balanced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topyoyo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, knap said: Perhaps - try dropping LOE and DL yo high. WULF 4132 (P112) FM 20.2 Is this the result you drop LOE and DL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Original tactic with no changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topyoyo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The best defensive tactic is NorthernSoul? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve dewilde Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Trying 4231 atm, lone striker looks way too more isolated up to the pitch while rest of the team is lagging behind, guess another year when 4231 is useless with that ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) I think you are wrong. I use now knap’s 4231 formation with minor tweak and it works ok. Edited December 3, 2019 by Par1s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve dewilde Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 à l’instant, Par1s a dit : I think you are wrong. I use now knap’s 4231 formation with minor tweak and is works ok. Which one either there are two; one with F9 or other with pressing forward? to me in both lone striker is way to up on the pitch compares the rest of the team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The one with PF. The tweaks till now is dropping the DL and LOE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve dewilde Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 il y a 2 minutes, Par1s a dit : The one with PF. The tweaks till now is dropping the DL and LOE. cheers mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filrom Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The first match on version 20.2.0, tactics 4-1-3-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivoensousa Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, knap said: There appears to be a massive problem to produce stats like this with a top side. Hi there @knap With FM20NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P107ECFA ? O kill the Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outside-forward Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 10:35, knap said: WULF 4141 FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf 45.1 kB · 257 downloads In love with this one. Quite easily the tactic I had the most success with. Overachieved everywhere. Won the Championship with Brentford; Allsvenskan with Hammarby; Won the Danish League and got to the Europa League quarter finals with Brondby and won the Serie A with Cagliari. First season, no signings, general training, OI's to the assistant. Played every game but rarely tweaked, just changed mentality and defensive/pressing line here and there depending the opposition. Just awesome. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Auto Save, Instant Result. Nordic Soul 5-3-2 set after loss 0-3. It seems to be the most optimal option at the moment. 4-1-2-3 gives bad results against strong teams, 4-1-4-1 - not good against weak. 5-3-2 in this FM is very promising. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) @outside-forward do you make any change for away games or hard games against big teams? Edited December 4, 2019 by andre62 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 14 hours ago, knap said: Perhaps - try dropping LOE and DL yo high. WULF 4132 (P112) FM 20.2 Please link the file Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 it's the first WULF tactic mentioned on page 1 or any update Knap posts with his new recommended list... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: it's the first WULF tactic mentioned on page 1 or any update Knap posts with his new recommended list... FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf is this right or wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 That is the one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: That is the one. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) By now, only ARGUS 352 is still working well when I updated FM to 20.2…… Edited December 4, 2019 by RockIt147 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Norther Soul is the only tactic that, so far, is not working well. However an early version of that tactic is working so hopefully tactic will be updated soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Tweaked Northern Soul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, knap said: Tweaked Northern Soul Please link the file 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 @knap are there general tweaks that you think apply to all your released FM20 tactics for this patch? Like lowering the LOE / DL ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 hours ago, steve dewilde said: cheers mate @Par1s hey, can you guys confirm which tactic it is? How fare are you tweaking the LOE and DL is it just one notch back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Like with any tactic you can game manage. Drop both LOE and DL by 1 notch Drop mentality positive balanced Drop mentality Defensive reduce Fwd runs on WBs Add TW WBs defensive/no nonsense FBs untick counter press Those change tactic from attacking to a SUS. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmaff Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Knap. Could you please re-upload your tactics, with the updated instructions for 20.2? Edited December 4, 2019 by bsmaff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, bsmaff said: Knap. Could you re-upload your tactics, with the updated instructions for 20.2? +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Not changed any instructions yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, hm86 said: @Par1s hey, can you guys confirm which tactic it is? How fare are you tweaking the LOE and DL is it just one notch back? Hey mate. I just drop the DL by 2 notch, and the LOE by one and the mentality from attacking to positive or balance depending the next game. My team is not good as I manage Olympiakos FC from Greece but with these tweaks I get a draw away on Man Utd which is very very good result. The tactic is 4231 formation with PF. Edited December 4, 2019 by Par1s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrroen Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4132 Salah form 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupardejan7 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: Like with any tactic you can game manage. Drop both LOE and DL by 1 notch Drop mentality positive balanced Drop mentality Defensive reduce Fwd runs on WBs Add TW WBs defensive/no nonsense FBs untick counter press Those change tactic from attacking to a SUS. can you explain this better i am new on FM. thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Is it just terms like SUS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: Norther Soul is the only tactic that, so far, is not working well. However an early version of that tactic is working so hopefully tactic will be updated soon. "FM20NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P107ECFA.fmf" is working decently for me. Is this the early version you mean @knap? Just now I took my swedish subtop/underdog 120CA'ish through all the CL-qualifications to CL-group stage, quite happy. FM20NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P107ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) The early version was V2 whereas The P107 was based on V5 Different tempo and passing. Edited December 4, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, knap said: The early version was V2 whereas The P107 was based on V5 How bad is it now? I mean how bad results have you been getting with it lately? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupardejan7 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, knap said: Is it just terms like SUS? yes only that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 It is difficult to be that precise, but if it does not make an instant impact then I look at the tactic for tweaking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 LOE Line of engagement DL Defensive Line Change WBs from Attack to Support or Defend if SUS. TW Time Wasting SUS Shut up Shop Very Defensive tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupardejan7 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, knap said: LOE Line of engagement DL Defensive Line Change WBs from Attack to Support or Defend if SUS. TW Time Wasting SUS Shut up Shop Very Defensive tactic. ok, thank you.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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