Ragin Cajun Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Really struggling with any tactics this version. Multiple sackings and relegation battles all the way. LLM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomA1996! Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, Ragin Cajun said: Really struggling with any tactics this version. Multiple sackings and relegation battles all the way. LLM @Ragin Cajun I know the feeling, I pretty much tried most tactics last night with no success or consistency, then found Par1s’s tweak of Knaps 4231 and haven’t lost in 22 games. Baring in mind I am Boston United in the Premier League 👍🏼 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Hello Knap, can i have a SUS tactic ti alternae with thé 4231 please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 To alternate... In english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthomac1 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Mr.Knap do you have any plan for building target man forward ? I would like to try some target man tactic tho XD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) I've not done a SUS Try no nonsense FBs add Time Wasting and drop mentality Edited December 24, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny648 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Do many people do many shouts in game? Ive noticed that the AI manager must be rather vocal on the sidelines as the opposition body langauage is always changed during the match, normally positive, i find if i encourage then i get negative reactions more often than not. Just wondering if anyone has a thread on the issue. I remember stumbling across the Wolfsong and Raikan007 team talk guides a few years back and they changed my FM experience and it was mind blowing what the right team talks could do to your team. So just thinking that shouts may also be a way of turning a loss into a win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAE82 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Filer974 said: Hello Knap, can i have a SUS tactic ti alternae with thé 4231 please You can easily make your own - switch to cautious, drop deeper, press lower/less, stay on feet, shorter passing, lower tempo, keeper slow down the pace, turn on time wasting, play for set pieces, be more disciplined, make the fullbacks defensive, get rid of playmaker roles (i.e. remove 'take more risks'). This usually works for me, but be wary about trying to hang-on to a narrow lead for too long! In those cases I'll do things in stages, make a few changes every 5 mins or so to try and not give up the initiative in one go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, TomA1996! said: @Par1s Changed to your tweak of Knap’s 4231 and works wonders! With this current setup are you using IF or IW? As I’m using IF at the moment.. Until 31st of December I use the IF version and then changed to IW version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xplode7 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, TomA1996! said: @Ragin Cajun I know the feeling, I pretty much tried most tactics last night with no success or consistency, then found Par1s’s tweak of Knaps 4231 and haven’t lost in 22 games. Baring in mind I am Boston United in the Premier League 👍🏼 IF or IW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 You can play a TM in any role. Unless you want a specific like play a long ball to Crouch type tactic then using a TM role does not add a lot to a tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAE82 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, knap said: Nail on head regarding DL, and managing DL is best option atm. I do have a 4231 DM, but not with AMC at MC FM20.2BEOWULF4231DMKnap.fmf 44.69 kB · 6 downloads Thanks - will take a look. Pogba did well as a CM(A), plenty goals and assists. I either had DM(S) or SV(S) but SV seemed to give more typical 4231 average positions on the analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TomA1996! Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Par1s said: Until 31st of December I use the IF version and then changed to IW version. @Par1s How come you changed to IW version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceman14 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I play a game with, for the moment, 4 different teams. They all play in 442beowolfP107. Very good results. The games are always interesting overall. Even if sometimes I lose points against teams that don’t shoot much on goal. A little frustrating, but not very important. I’ll try with two other teams, the 4231beowolfp51 which seems to be very good too. For this to work, it is important to apply the instructions given by Knap for training and matches. Having good preparers and an excellent assistant is essential. Knap’s tactics have allowed me to play FM correctly for four years. Without having to think too much. Sometimes it doesn’t work, but very often it works very well! For very old players, the era of sergoffver2 on FM01/02 is over 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) @TomA1996! As I mentioned yesterday, I tweaked a 442 Knap's tactic into a 4231. So I forwarded the MR/ML to AMR/AML without changed the role. Edited December 24, 2019 by Par1s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Playing out all matches with full management may be the best way to go but the ME is a bore and just too painful to endure in its current state. It's Mourinho's dream. Not fun at all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Base Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Have you created 75 tactics yet Knap? 🙄 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAE82 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: Playing out all matches with full management may be the best way to go but the ME is a bore and just too painful to endure in its current state. It's Mourinho's dream. Not fun at all. Yup. I very rarely do it, but resorted to it this year after not doing that well plus having a bit more time than usual seeing as it's Xmas! My biggest bug-bear is the (lack of) crossing from AMRL. Have tried all sorts, but sick to death of seeing my winger completely refuse to cross and instead run to the corner flag and then get tackled/fouled/cross into a defender. Constant offsides were also painful, but that may well be to do with Haaland liking to beat the offside trap. Seeing the full game also makes it perfectly clear just how many fouls are given away while playing the high-pressing/get stuck in Gegenpressing. Can be very frustrating to watch. Anyway, shouldn't pollute this thread with ME whinging! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 I have split my soul into 75 pieces and these are contained in horcruxes to avoid any security measures. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, TomA1996! said: @Par1s Changed to your tweak of Knap’s 4231 and works wonders! With this current setup are you using IF or IW? As I’m using IF at the moment.. tactic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 what is a best 4231 @knap plz ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Probably the IF Version posted above but it is out for testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, knap said: Probably the IF Version posted above but it is out for testing. where is tactic plz bro ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 14 hours ago, knap said: Par1s tweak 4231 FM20.2.34231KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkwaysvP101FA.fmf 44.92 kB · 191 downloads Here it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickZombie Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 great work knap and par1s. Loving the 4231 so far!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR#7 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Any 4-4-1-1 tactic? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Will be on last 2 pages for 4411 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Knap looking forward to a new Xmas tactic from you, 105pts+......... I believe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Knap looking forward to a new Xmas tactic from you, 105pts+......... I believe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsalai Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Hi Knap! What tactic would you recommend for Man Utd? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 A bit of Christmas spirit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Any for MU, although they are not the easy this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, knap said: A bit of Christmas spirit Good name for a new tactic 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomA1996! Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 @knap what would you say is the most consistent underdog tactic and sub top tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Hi Zyndar How is it going this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 ARGUS 352 appears the consistent underdog Sub top could be any number from Oxford 31221 4132 442 Sympathy Tequila and ARGUS again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) FM 20.2 Tactics NEW TACTICS FM 20.2.3 BEOWULF 4411 FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141 959227044_Milankanp4141v2NEW!!.fmf FM 20.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231 FM20.2.34231KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkwaysvP101FA.fmf FM20.2.3KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkways4231IWP97.fmf FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100 FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf44.87 kB · 732 downloads FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106 FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf45.03 kB · 911 downloads FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95 FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads FM20.2 SICILIAN P101 FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads OXFORD 41221 FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads BEOWULF 442 P107 FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads WULF 4132 P106 FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101 FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads FM 20.1 Tactics RECOMMENDED LIST WULF 4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 522 downl 4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBAPDLPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf45.19 kB · 406 downloadsoads 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog) FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads 442 P102 FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 553 downloads 4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top FM20Tequilasunrise442.knaplassTHP93EC.fmf44.98 kB · 152 downloads 442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98 FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top) FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 59 downloads BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top) FM20BLUEMATTER433KnapP105FACC.fmf43.28 kB · 372 downloads SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf45.01 kB · 39 downloads 442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44. 442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top ) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf44.91 kB · 957 downloads 442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog) FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads 4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103 FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaip4132P102ECFA.fmf45.04 kB · 144 downloads 4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol24132P97ECFATHP91.fmf45.04 kB · 95 downloads 4132 GOODBYE P101 FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads BLUE MATTER 451 P98 FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103 !!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads 442 (sub top) Bayer 04 19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads WULF 4141 FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads WULF 4231 P102 ECCC FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads 41311 Leeds FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads Edited December 24, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics) FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101 FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 FM 20 ARGUS 352 FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221 OXFORD FM 20 SICILIAN 4222 P98 FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141 FM 20 SYMPATHY 442 FM 20 MILAN 4141 FM 20 BEOWULF 4411 FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 BEOWULF 442 P107 FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 FM 20.2 WULF 4132 FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220 FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL FM 20.2.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231 IF FM 20.2.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231 IW BLUE MATTER 433 DM 451 BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 Edited December 24, 2019 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 I have had confirmation that latest tactics have been tested but will still require uploading on main site. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosejak Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Which is the best underdog ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 ARGUS 352 SICILIAN 4222 northern soul 352 wulf 4132 wulf 4141 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crew2 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, knap said: ARGUS 352 SICILIAN 4222 northern soul 352 wulf 4132 wulf 4141 @knap Merry Christmas knap. I was just wondering what type of players would you recommend for the ml and mr roles in Oxford? Could central midfielders who are adept at playing as wide midfielders do well there such as James Milner, Jordan Henderson, or Gini Widnaldum for example or is it better a fast winger type player such as Raheem Sterling, Theo Walcott or someone like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuchd Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) Thanks for your fantastic work! KNAP！ I'm a fan of you from China. Your Sympathy 442DM was my first choice in 20.1 But in 20.2 the ME becomes much harder, it seems that through balls is much more OP than other methods. I've tried your low-DL wulf442 and find it effective. But I think changing WB into IWB-s would be more efficient, since IWB-s can serve as two more "through ball playmaker" and fill in the blank of DM in defence, and WB has some deficits: 1.WB's crossing is not so efficient in this version. 2.The running up of WB is fragile when AI counters, and the advantage brought by WB running up may not neutralize this disadvantage. Would you mind if I take a tweak and post here? Edited December 25, 2019 by yuchd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 20/12/2019 at 20:06, knap said: Dropped DL 442 FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf 44.87 kB · 250 downloads Do you have screenshots for this one? I want to see what player/foot was used on right side IW. I wonder if it's OK to use a right footed on right IW as the tool tip says that role should be left-footed (foot opposite to side).. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 Yes you can post tweaks in this thread or PM them, although not much time today. The best way to try with players is in a match just change them over in a match and see what you prefer and what gets results. I often change players over during a game if not scoring. In a match you can be much more proactive. This is why I recommend mentality matters,.because all these small changes can give you an edge. The tactics creator was set up to do this original so you could easily change from Defensive, counter, control, attack and overload. The idea behind automatic is that the duty or runs change when you change mentality. These can also be applied to different formations maybe a 352 as a control and 424 overload.. There are many ways to make tactical changes work for you in a match which may not as a P&P Tactic. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post knap Posted December 25, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2019 Happy Christmas to all 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammalc Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 You too knap , thanks for all your hours of work making the game easier and more fun for the rest of us 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp4rtak22 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 what are the best tactics now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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