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are any of your new tactics been tested yet and ranked in your list? could do with an updated one maybe?

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1 hour ago, knap said:

This is a serious misdemeanor and a half hearted apology

https://fm-base.co.uk/threads/psa-multiple-accounts-includes-apology-from-tff.161989/

I apologise to you for not doing more. We're still currently investigating potential new alt accounts and we're also waiting to see what action SI take. I'm hoping TFF will produce a better apology in the coming days, but you're absolutely right about the state of his current one. We let it be because he's kind of made his own bed there... 

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I`ll just copy paste my post over at FMBase here also:

" The problem for me is the amount of users who have left this forums after arguments with his defenders going back at least 3-4 years.

Even worse, how many have used some of the "upvoted" tactics under false pretenses of fake results being posted from fake users?
We know some of his tactics have been great, so why make people use tactics that are not as good but are being "put up" by fake users?
These users must feel betrayed. How many have been tricked into worse game experiences than they could have had, because of misrepresented quality of tactics?
Who knows? Maybe some have lost motivation for playing that version, and ended up not buying the next?

And even worse is the tactic-makers being out down by the fake posts showing their tactics as not working, when in fact they might be. How many have stopped? Lost motivation?
We will never know.

I`ve just found in my own messenger log talk about this subject with a friend as long back as 17 may 2016. We suspected even then.
We cant know for sure.

Me and my mate left FMBASE around 2017, having had enough. I moved on to SI.
I came back to FMBase as wel this year of 6th desember, finding not much has changed in this regard.

But at least now it seems the new ownership is taking this seriously. Well done to you for that! "

Edited by Rober82

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25 minutes ago, knap said:

MR L Testing is close to being online

Already a month is close)))) 

 

What is the accuracy of testing on FM-Base?

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4 minutes ago, Filrom said:

Already a month is close)))) 

 

What is the accuracy of testing on FM-Base?

Hi, I can't speak for Knap, but we use the same testing format as Mr L with a couple of tweaks. It's proven accurate in my own experience, but alas, I'm sure we will need a couple of years to truly build a solid reputation. 

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I have been looking at MR L test results today, so the system is up and running.

The problem with FM Base is I can't see the home and away results. A key recommendation is a good away tactic with and underdog would be a good defensive tactic. The current recommendations are based on FM Base test, it is just I would prefer more detail.

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8 hours ago, Ivoensousa said:

Hi there @Samuel777. Excelent result! :applause:
Are you playing with the new update (20.2.3) already?

Yeah. The result is on the latest patch.

Tip: If ever you are 1 man down, switch to Sicilian 4222 with only 1 PF and you should be able to grind a result.

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Knap, hi. I'm your fan since 2016 fm. Can i ask you? 

 

I've tried all your tactics this year. The problem is that first season my team performs great, then - very bad. I got to high division, and it was very bad. Can i ask you about tactics for very underdog? I play in russian division.

 

Maybe you can say us, your fans, what is the best tactic in Mr L testing league? I very wait Mr L testing.

 

Thanks a lot!

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2 hours ago, Samuel777 said:

Yeah. The result is on the latest patch.

Tip: If ever you are 1 man down, switch to Sicilian 4222 with only 1 PF and you should be able to grind a result.

Which tactic is this and where can i download it please?

Would you recommend it for underdogs playing away @Samuel777 ?

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The best underdog tactics per FM base are Sicilian P101 and FM 20.2 Norther Soul The other tactics that may work are FM 20.2 Stargazing 442 of FM 20 Wulf 4132 P102ECCC.

SI have made it harder each year to acquire quality players so squad may be weaker than in previous years.

It is up to you if  you if you want to handle touchline instructions, but I prevent these and OIs by taking responsibility for them in testing

329075221_Screenshot(228).thumb.png.b1fe0b9ca863dbf6fb97ac95850569c7.png

 

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6 hours ago, FM Base said:

I apologise to you for not doing more. We're still currently investigating potential new alt accounts and we're also waiting to see what action SI take. I'm hoping TFF will produce a better apology in the coming days, but you're absolutely right about the state of his current one. We let it be because he's kind of made his own bed there... 

He's spitting in your face after you decided not to ban him with that whole it's my family thing.  It's not about whether or not he produces a better apology, it's about you as the admin of a community holding your members accountable for their actions.  The ends do not justify the means.

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Come on now, let them have some time to deal with the matter. Just because something hasn`t happened yet don`t mean it won`t.
The end result might still be the same.

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8 minutes ago, Phyr said:

He's spitting in your face after you decided not to ban him with that whole it's my family thing.  It's not about whether or not he produces a better apology, it's about you as the admin of a community holding your members accountable for their actions.  The ends do not justify the means.

We have been very transparent. There's no underlying reason for not banning ASAP and we're not protecting anyone. 

It's simply a case that we're still investigating, and whilst we wanted to be transparent from the beginning, the investigation won't be complete within a day. 

We're dealing with something that has been ongoing for years. I'd encourage you to give us a chance to resolve it on our own time, after all, running FM Base is our passion, but it is also only a hobby for us and sometimes it feels like we're constantly learning as we go. 

If we ban him, we're losing a dialogue between him, us and the community during our investigation. 

Would prefer to discuss privately or on the dedicated thread over on FM Base rather than derail Knap's tactic feedback thread further. 

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2 hours ago, knap said:

The best underdog tactics per FM base are Sicilian P101 and FM 20.2 Norther Soul The other tactics that may work are FM 20.2 Stargazing 442 of FM 20 Wulf 4132 P102ECCC.

SI have made it harder each year to acquire quality players so squad may be weaker than in previous years.

It is up to you if  you if you want to handle touchline instructions, but I prevent these and OIs by taking responsibility for them in testing

329075221_Screenshot(228).thumb.png.b1fe0b9ca863dbf6fb97ac95850569c7.png

 

What would you say is the best tactic to get a high scoring front 2 or 3 specifically Knap? For example playing as Liverpool to get Salah, Mane and Firmino scoring?

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2 hours ago, knap said:

The best underdog tactics per FM base are Sicilian P101 and FM 20.2 Norther Soul The other tactics that may work are FM 20.2 Stargazing 442 of FM 20 Wulf 4132 P102ECCC.

SI have made it harder each year to acquire quality players so squad may be weaker than in previous years.

It is up to you if  you if you want to handle touchline instructions, but I prevent these and OIs by taking responsibility for them in testing

329075221_Screenshot(228).thumb.png.b1fe0b9ca863dbf6fb97ac95850569c7.png

 

Thanks for the advice @knap and al the work you do!

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3 hours ago, FM Base said:

We have been very transparent. There's no underlying reason for not banning ASAP and we're not protecting anyone. 

It's simply a case that we're still investigating, and whilst we wanted to be transparent from the beginning, the investigation won't be complete within a day. 

We're dealing with something that has been ongoing for years. I'd encourage you to give us a chance to resolve it on our own time, after all, running FM Base is our passion, but it is also only a hobby for us and sometimes it feels like we're constantly learning as we go. 

If we ban him, we're losing a dialogue between him, us and the community during our investigation. 

Would prefer to discuss privately or on the dedicated thread over on FM Base rather than derail Knap's tactic feedback thread further. 

Guys, I have been playing FM since CM2 time. I have been always searching around for tactics to play. I did make "china creation" and some other not so popular tac in older time.

 

My conclusion to his event today:

- He has been contributed alot since Day 1, however if somebody committed a crime, then he should be punished.

 

- If the admin said he must deserve a 2nd chance, then u are running the country liked Putin or the chinese. You set the rule (in fact no rule), you can say yes or no whenever you want......

 

- Honestly having 7 accounts under 1 IP isn't believable, having 75 accounts is just.......

 

- It is NOT the only website he publishes his tac. Admin you dont want to ban him because his followers may move away to other forum with him....This is just a extremely political decision

 

- To make the scenario fair, you should ban his account and his IP address. However if he has a new name or new IP address, that would be his 2nd chance....

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9 hours ago, lo1313 said:

Which tactic is this and where can i download it please?

Would you recommend it for underdogs playing away @Samuel777 ?

This one https://community.sigames.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=273828

For me it works away from home but you have to follow Knap's advice and recommendations because he is the tactician. 

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 Sicilian 4222 definitely not a good away tactic for Southampton.

lost so many away games.

totally no defense.

I guess its because Southampton's CBs and DMs are all *****, can't turn back to chase the strikers.

maybe need to sign Van Dijk back.

 

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17 hours ago, knap said:

This is a serious misdemeanor and a half hearted apology

https://fm-base.co.uk/threads/psa-multiple-accounts-includes-apology-from-tff.161989/

Okay. Knap, get off your high horse. 

Lets not forget, i shared a successful 4141 earlier this series of FM and YOU accused me of using your tactic as a base on my thread. Being completely false, backed with no evidence, though i asked you to provide it multiple times, you were allowed to do this with no consequence. That could've left a negative mark on my thread if people chose to believe you. you, as a creator, went out of your way to comment something negative on another creators thread

claiming something that someone else created as work of your own is a misdemeanour also.

i didn't want to comment on your thread, but i can't sit here and just let you say stuff like you have done no wrong too. Creators should show support of other creators, if you have a issue, you should first message the creator personally. 

TFF is a great creator of tactics, and so are you! this is your thread and understand that your free to express your opinions. But you are very popular here, and you know full well if you say something negative about someone, it'll be damaging to them because of the support you have. 

Continue to make great tactics. Creators shouldn't be against other creators. The motive should be to help others

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Knap, have you tried unticking the "play offside" and see if it will help with the ball over the top? For me, dropping DL doesn't help.. The AI still keeps pinging bombs behind my def.. Thanks 

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18 minutes ago, kevinSw6 said:

Knap, have you tried unticking the "play offside" and see if it will help with the ball over the top? For me, dropping DL doesn't help.. The AI still keeps pinging bombs behind my def.. Thanks 

This is a really good thought/question and hopefully Knap will have an answer/ have already tested or if not hopefully he will test it. I'm still not exactly sure what in the FM 2020 terms play offside does - for me it only seems to work either by accident (i.e. where the play pin balls and the SC just doesn't get back quick enough and is a mile offside) or for obvious through balls from midfield/wings. But the main problem are the long balls from full backs and DCs just sailing over the top of even a low DL and the DCs being oblivious to see it coming so don't step up.

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This thread is seriously getting too diluted to follow , barely able to see who's replying to what sub thread there are that many.

 

All this FM Base nonsense IMHO shouldn't even be in this group let alone this thread , it was only ever going to end in disaster when it started  and now been proven .

 

If anyone has been following the subplots going on with fake accounts and rival groups can Knap or anyone say which they believe to be the best current tactic ?

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I have been trying with no offside and a NIKE defence.

There is also a deep DL defence tactic, but the problem is for some teams the risk of a high line is better and  others need to drop off/

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A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics)

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222

FM 20 ARGUS 352      

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98      

FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442        

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222       VOL 2

BEOWULF 442 P107                                   

FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2      

FM 20.2 WULF 4132    

FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220

FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL                      

                      

     

FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                             

BLUE MATTER 433 DM   451                         

BLUE MATTER 433                                    

4231                                                           

WULF 424 

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Thanks Knap , i must have tried 4 different ones thinking they were top of your list and the last one isn't even on the list lol

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I had about 5 test results from MR L Testing yesterday but there still appears to be a glitch in the system. Hopefully this can be sorted quickly.

Also Liam has assured me that there will be more detail available with the FM Base test.

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I've not seen anything, but there was a delay because FRMTE needs to be updated after a hotfix.

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1 hour ago, Samuel777 said:

77 goals from 46 apps.

Who can beat this??

Next season's objective- 100 goals 😉

Screenshot_20191222-150721_FM20 Touch.jpg

Impressive! I think I should try this again when I have better strikers, tested a bit with Fiorentina and my striker (Pedro) struggled to get chances. Maybe fast strikers work better. Do you use wrong-footed wingers? I need this type of numbers in my game :D !

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Depends how you want to use the tactics from recommended list

The P107 442 is more exciting and does well with Spurs and Arsenal or could be used as a Home tactic Sicilian and Sympathy are the best tested tactics on FM Base.

Argus and Northern Soul have 3 at back.

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2 hours ago, knap said:

A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics)

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222

FM 20 ARGUS 352      

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98      

FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442        

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222       VOL 2

BEOWULF 442 P107                                   

FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2      

FM 20.2 WULF 4132    

FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220

FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL                      

                      

     

FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                             

BLUE MATTER 433 DM   451                         

BLUE MATTER 433                                    

4231                                                           

WULF 424 

Is that recommended list or not quite?

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2 hours ago, dywan said:

You are my number one now after what did tff... I don't know how I could be fooled. I always doubted your tactics, I always put them in the background, I'm sorry man :( Which of your tactics do you recommend for Borussia Dortmund? From now on I will always be with your tactics - good that you are! <3
sorry for bad eng...

With Dortmund I had success with Sympathy for the Devil (the original one) & with the spirit of 99. 
But against teams like Liverpool who were stronger then me I used Silician.

Won the league and the CL but lost in the cup finale against schalke...

In the second season I'll try argus now I think

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Guys I know this might be a noob question but how do you simulate a whole season quickly? You go on holiday right but it goes through every single day on the calender which is time consuming 

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FM 20.2 Tactics

NEW TACTICS

FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100

FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106

FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf45.03 kB · 911 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95

FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads

FM20.2 SICILIAN P101

FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads

OXFORD 41221

FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads

BEOWULF 442 P107

FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads

WULF 4132 P106

FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads

 

NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101

FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads

FM 20.1 Tactics RECOMMENDED LIST

WULF

4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 522 downl

4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102  (Top Sub top underdog)

FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBAPDLPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf45.19 kB · 406 downloadsoads

4141 P103 (top sub top underdog)

FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads

442 P102

FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 553 downloads

4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top

FM20Tequilasunrise442.knaplassTHP93EC.fmf44.98 kB · 152 downloads

442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98

FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads

ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads

BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top)

FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 59 downloads

BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top)

FM20BLUEMATTER433KnapP105FACC.fmf43.28 kB · 372 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL

442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top underdog) 

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf45.01 kB · 39 downloads

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.

442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top )

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf44.91 kB · 957 downloads

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaip4132P102ECFA.fmf45.04 kB · 144 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol24132P97ECFATHP91.fmf45.04 kB · 95 downloads

4132 GOODBYE P101

FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads

BLUE MATTER 451 P98

FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads

WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads

442 (sub top) Bayer 04

19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads

WULF 4141

FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads

WULF 4231 P102 ECCC

FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads

41311 Leeds

FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads

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