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7 hours ago, crew2 said:

@knap Using Sicilian as Liverpool could Mane play on the left or would he have to be retrained? In general do you usually retrain players who play as inside forwards to the ML/MR positions?

Meaning: Using the Sicilian 4222, with the ML has inside foot in order for me to provide more through ball? So as MR should be left footed to give the same cut inside and then release a through ball effect?
 

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A few test results puts the order as follows

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222

FM 20 ARGUS 352      

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98      

FM 20 FM 20 WULF 4141

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442        

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222       VOL 2

BEOWULF 442 P107                                   

NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2                                   

                         

     

SM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                             

BLUE MATTER 433 DM   451                         

BLUE MATTER 433                                    

4231                                                           

WULF 424 

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If looking for the most offensive tactic then try BEOWULF 442

A combination of attack defence then try WULF 4132 

A good defensive balanced option Sicilian 4222

A good defensive option try WULF 4141

 

If Favourite for a match try BEOWULF 442 or Tequila Sunrise

If underdog for a match try WULF 4132 or Sicilian 4222 or Wulf 4141

Good tactics for sub top Sympathy V1 or 442 or Wulf 4132

Good tactics for underdog try Sicilian 4222 od ULWF 4141

Advise should apply to all levels.

 

Additional options is to change DL to suit your players or use other mentalities like positive to add more control. 

 

Edited by knap

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49 minutes ago, knap said:

A few test results puts the order as follows

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222

FM 20 ARGUS 352      

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98      

FM 20 FM 20 WULF 4141

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442        

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222       VOL 2

BEOWULF 442 P107                                   

NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2                                   

                         

     

SM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                             

BLUE MATTER 433 DM   451                         

BLUE MATTER 433                                    

4231                                                           

WULF 424 

Edited Thursday a

Nice, thanks. Using P112Wulf4132 while waiting for recommended list.

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I'm also wondering when I holiday a full season in FMT with your tactics @knap, I Always get slightly weaker results than you?

I win the league with Liverpool or city, or finish close second, Always with 84-91 points, but in your tactics and screenshot you mostly get over 100 points.

Is that because I'm holidaying and you play the games and sometimes "game manage" them?

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10 hours ago, Llainen said:

having the usual 1billion shots every game scores 1 goal.... every tactic this year 

 

Can someone please explain why these tactics seems to work amazingly with everyone else? But with my Fenerbache teamits utter useless? This is a serious question so please help so maybe i can try do something:P

Its not just you mate. Exactly the same for me. Mystery at the moment??

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I use Observer method, which means no game management.

The 10 season holiday games I did last year would give a variation between seasons but the results should be say between 95-105 pts.

Can you post your staff responsibility screen.

 

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32 minutes ago, knap said:

Have you some results with that tactic?

Hi there @knap mate,
Let me make few more games and i put results here, but until now is just victories

PS: Until now just victories, 9 goals scored and 2 conceded

Edited by Ivoensousa

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Maybe irrelevant, but all tactics seem to perform better when using right footed players at both MR/L positions regardless of roles. MR in particular usually launches some long passes a la Beckham from the flank, thus being right footed seems to help those plays. Noticed this using both Sympathy (4222) and Sicilian, which feature IW's and W's respectively.

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As ever top work Knap, please keep it going!

 

As another poster said it would be nice to just have a 4-2-3-1 that works :) Or something that replicates classic Barca or current liverpool, back 4, 3 centre mids with a DM, one centre forward and two inside forwards, as much as I try to make them they just never work.

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2 hours ago, knap said:

I use Observer method, which means no game management.

The 10 season holiday games I did last year would give a variation between seasons but the results should be say between 95-105 pts.

Can you post your staff responsibility screen.

 

I think i found that I was doing wrong, I've always used automatic (low) reputation for my manager, now I've tried a new holiday seasons with highest rep and got 97 points for the first time. Didn't think that manager rep would influence holiday results but looks like it does....

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On 12/12/2019 at 23:11, themario said:

So I've just finished my 3rd season with Milan:

3 x Seria A Champions

2 x Champions League Champions

Tactic: tweakd @knap 4-1-4-1 cuz it's my favorite system to play. It's balanced both in defence and in attack and It's fun to watch. Also I mixed it with @knap 4-4-2 BEOWULF 107AllCups in some matches.

Most games I've played my self exept for some low rating matches.

For those how like to test it, I upload it under this post.

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Milan kanp 4141 v2 NEW !!.fmf 45.03 kB · 353 downloads

Fantastic tactic! Using it with Freiburg, expected to finish 16th.... im sitting 2nd, 2 points behind Bayern... 5 wins, 1 draw.  All i do is change mentality for diff games and adjust LOE depending what the score is... i manage every game and take care of training as well... 

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I would only use low rep for something like Dafuge challenge when part of rules, otherwise it just adds another variable.

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Hi guys,

 

I already asked for help about two days ago, but I need help again. I’m using PSV and I won the eredivisie in the first season, but idk how to win in the international cup like the champions league and europa league. Does somebody know tactic for this and got some tips for me?

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3 hours ago, juan6one said:

Fantastic tactic! Using it with Freiburg, expected to finish 16th.... im sitting 2nd, 2 points behind Bayern... 5 wins, 1 draw.  All i do is change mentality for diff games and adjust LOE depending what the score is... i manage every game and take care of training as well... 

Hahah ahd to double check it wasn't my own post lol. Its working so well for my Freiburg save swell

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From what I can see, the ME is still broken. It doesn't matter what random formation or tweaks you play, the opposition team will attempt to match you with goal chances and probably convert a higher ratio of clear cut chance goals.

It doesn't matter if you play a strike force of 5 Messi and a defence of 4 Van Dijk, playing in a random formation of 2, 3, 4, whatever. It won't change.

If you have 20 chances, the opposition will have 15. It's bad at the minute.

Whatever happened to buying and playing great 11 players in a bog standard tactic and just winning?

I hate looking for killer tactics because I can't get my players to perform even though they are better than the opposition in every position. All of this rubbish will be FUBAR after a patch.

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Football is a simple game. It's 22 people chasing after a ball & trying to stick it in a net. If I have 11 better than them, then why am I following a thread where I need to try & download an exploit to beat them? Fm20 sucks.

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5 minutes ago, Bothan Spy said:

Football is a simple game. It's 22 people chasing after a ball & trying to stick it in a net. If I have 11 better than them, then why am I following a thread where I need to try & download an exploit to beat them? Fm20 sucks.

Juventus have a team with: Sczeszny, Bonucci, De Ligt, Jordi Alba, Pjanic, Luis Alberto, Douglas Costa, Dybala, Higuain, Ronaldo, Luis Suarez, Cavani. And I beat them 1-0 dominating from the start. And I DO NOT have that squad. So, it's not that easy as you think.

Edited by Darren77

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I can't see a 4231 coming close to Sicilian. I just happened to be trying a few different TIs at the time with a 4231.

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11 hours ago, knap said:

If looking for the most offensive tactic then try BEOWULF 442

A combination of attack defence then try WULF 4132 

A good defensive balanced option Sicilian 4222

A good defensive option try WULF 4141

 

If Favourite for a match try BEOWULF 442 or Tequila Sunrise

If underdog for a match try WULF 4132 or Sicilian 4222 or Wulf 4141

Good tactics for sub top Sympathy V1 or 442 or Wulf 4132

Good tactics for underdog try Sicilian 4222 od ULWF 4141

Advise should apply to all levels.

 

Additional options is to change DL to suit your players or use other mentalities like positive to add more control. 

 

thanks for your suggestion for 2nd tactic i think i will take wulf 4132 because i am underdog most of the time

for the first one i will stay with sicilian 4222 because i have good results with it even against strong teams

i have make another match a cup match against a stronger team their best player was 80 ca and i win 4-2 so great results so far

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5 hours ago, knap said:

I can't see a 4231 coming close to Sicilian

What about a 433? 2dmcs and a cm with AMwingers and pf.. Or one dm and 2 cms? Maybe 3 cms, but i guess you need that dm. Also i guess the problem is the space in front of full backs with AML/R. So have so sacrifice some other way to achieve balance. I like 433s, boring if it wont work at all.

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18 hours ago, WesleyM1912 said:

Hi guys,

 

I already asked for help about two days ago, but I need help again. I’m using PSV and I won the eredivisie in the first season, but idk how to win in the international cup like the champions league and europa league. Does somebody know tactic for this and got some tips for me?

Hello, I've been using this tactic for 2/3 seasons for PSV and it works very well, give it a try here are my results

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FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf

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5 minutes ago, Samuel777 said:

4141 tweak by themario.

is there a link anywhere for it please ?

 

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I've won PL with Spurs with Both Tequila Sunrise and Sicilian P101 and Arsenal with 442 P107

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