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20.2.1 Changelist
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- Fix for users encountering crashes before/after matches taking place
- Fix for rare issue when user encounters crash when attempting to add an additional tactic
- Fix for rare issue where users are unable to go past 'Match Preview' screen before a match
- Fix for users unable to enter password via game status screen on low resolution systems

Seems like no ME updates

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sicilian442, beowulf442 and wulf 4132, may I ask you how would you rank these three tactics? And which one would you use for home and also for away

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P107 Home 4132 Away Sicilian difficult Away.

However, none of the independent tests show CA 120, Away details which would a good way to identify best Away tactic. 

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Beowulf P107 going well with Man U;

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Annoyingly the only defeat in this run came thanks to a 5th minute sending off. The draw against Man City was a last kick equaliser for them and the West Ham draw was thrown away from a 2-0 lead and cruising.

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2 minutes ago, Spike said:

Beowulf P107 хорошо сочетается с Man U;

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Досадно, что единственное поражение в этом заезде произошло благодаря 5-й минуте отправки.

I have 10 games with an outsider - 9 wins, 1 loss. Super tactics!
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How has this ended 0-0? How have we had 31 shots, hit the woodwork 4 times, but only 1 CCC?

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41 minutes ago, Spike said:

How has this ended 0-0? How have we had 31 shots, hit the woodwork 4 times, but only 1 CCC?

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Super GK? 😂😂😂

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the update has done something to the 442 i was winning away with ease now i had over 120 shots in 4 games and lost them all while playing away any one else had this

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@knapIs holidaying with "use current match tactic" a valid way of testing a tactic? or do you get better performance when watching the game?

(and is there difference in holidaying with full vs holidaying in touch)

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9 hours ago, Ivoensousa said:

Super GK? 😂😂😂

They'll all be from distance, the stats are not always a good example to use. Seems like your players are shooting from anywhere rather than look for a pass that may create a CCC.

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43 minutes ago, DavyDepuydt1 said:

@knapIs holidaying with "use current match tactic" a valid way of testing a tactic? or do you get better performance when watching the game?

(and is there difference in holidaying with full vs holidaying in touch)

 

You will get an idea with a holiday game of how well a tactic works.

However you will get better results if you manage the games, as you are able to make changes through the game better than AI.

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The testing sites control variables to give a more accurate test, which is not available for a normal save. 

I do not really test tactics but set them up and look for potential.

When you look at the 10 season holiday tests I did in FM 19 you can see , even with a top club,there is a large variation between seasons.

The test sites therefore run the test 2 or 3 times which is up to 270 games to try and eliminate this variance.

There are no injuries in the tests wheras in a normal save Spurs without Kane for 6 mths is likely to under perform, therefore if you holiday with thin squads or weak squads results are likely to be unpredictable.

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Just a heads up, I'm very successful in getting good and realistic results (so no 7-3 but more 3-1 / 2-0) with the 442-Leipzig by changing the mentality to Positive and bringing LOE and DL down a notch. (on latest patch in full fat)

Holidayed a season with City and won the league, and holidayed a season with worst team in belgian third division and ended 3th

AF striker scoring a lot, a lot of players in the top average rating list, was second in clean sheets, ...

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A few test results puts the order as follows

WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106

SYMPATHY 4222

TEQUILA SUNRISE

BEOWULF 442 P107

SICILIAN 4222 P101

SYMPATHY 442                                             

SYMPATHY 4222       VOL 2

NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2                                   

SICILIAN  4222 P98                                

ARGUS 352                                                 

BLUE MATTER 433 DM   451                         

BLUE MATTER 433                                    

4231                                                           

WULF 424 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, knap said:

A few test results puts the order as follows

WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106

SYMPATHY 4222

FM base or FM arena?

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A combination of both and not all tactics are tested. MR L should also be on line soon as well

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1 hour ago, knap said:

A few test results puts the order as follows

WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106

SYMPATHY 4222

TEQUILA SUNRISE

BEOWULF 442 P107

SICILIAN 4222 P101

SYMPATHY 442                                             

SYMPATHY 4222       VOL 2

NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2                                   

SICILIAN  4222 P98                                

ARGUS 352                                                 

BLUE MATTER 433 DM                            

BLUE MATTER 433                                    

4231                                                           

WULF 424 

 

 

Just to clarify, these have all been tested on 20.2? 

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Best top dog tactics would be 442 p107 or 4132 P106 best sub top Sympathy or Tequila best underdog Argus 352.

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6 hours ago, DavyDepuydt1 said:

Just a heads up, I'm very successful in getting good and realistic results (so no 7-3 but more 3-1 / 2-0) with the 442-Leipzig by changing the mentality to Positive and bringing LOE and DL down a notch. (on latest patch in full fat)

Holidayed a season with City and won the league, and holidayed a season with worst team in belgian third division and ended 3th

AF striker scoring a lot, a lot of players in the top average rating list, was second in clean sheets, ...

i like that little tweaks... love that 1-0, 2-0 results, much more than 5-3 or 4-2:applause:

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Argus 352 is the tested best underdog tactic, but Sympathy or Tequila may be worth trying.

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All tactics in this thread seem to work relatively well. The only trouble i have is consistency using any formation with a AML, AMC, AMR .They always seem to die off after 5-8 games, four game losing streak then back on the winning run. 

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Instant Result. White Europe tweak, very cool! After 3 draw in a row i began to use Sicilian Defence home (DL and LOE set from very high to high) and White Europe away. Think this is the most optimal option.

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Screenshots of my Simulation save in full fat 20.2 with city.

Holidayed the season, so didn't switch to SUS to get a result nor did I switch to more attacking when drawing/losing (so when playing yourself you'll get even better results)

Tactic: 442 Sympathy Leipzig (the original one, not V2)
Tweaks: Positive Mentality, Brought LOE & DL to 'higher' (one notch down) and removed all Tackle harder PI (but kept 'get stuck in' TI)

Very happy with the results, almost no crazy scores (7-3 and such), good scoring record (2nd in league) and good conceding record (best in league).
Striker is scoring most goals, keeper is joint second in clean sheets, have quite a few players ranked high in the average rating ranking and Aguero won FIFA player of the year

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I know I've asked before but I struggle to get any sort of consistency playing with 4-1-2-3 or 4-2-3-1 or any variation of a single striker with 2 IF's.

Sorry to ask again but is anyone having any decent success with one of these types of tactics with decent teams (Ajax, Rangers, Liverpool) and getting them to work realistically with the striker/IF scoring most goals?

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