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43 dakika önce, knap said:

What tactic did you use last year and have you tried this in FM 20.

i used 19.4 442 109pts one and had great results

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4 minutes ago, knap said:

What tactic did you use last year and have you tried this in FM 20.

I used all :)

In FM 20 I've tried 4-4-2 WM-PFP, 4-4-2 W-AF

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Hi knap, i d like to try your 442 Winger with AF tweaked if the offer is still up.
Many thanks 

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Hi Knap! If you could send any lonely striker tweak for FM 20, i would apreciate! Thanks!

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@knap With your tweaked 442, I was so close in 1st season to winning the league in my first season!  Watched all games watched on comprehensive highlights.

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With Andy Carroll as 2nd striker that is a decent result.

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Hi Knap do you have a tweak for the !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS?

I got results with this one but maybe it works even better

19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS

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What tactic did you use last year and have you tried this in FM 20. Can therefore compare to the tweaked tactics.

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18 minutes ago, knap said:

What tactic did you use last year and have you tried this in FM 20. Can therefore compare to the tweaked tactics.

I used the 4132 and I ended up 3rd with a very average qpr side losing in playoff final but I think if I’d used the tactic from the off I would gone up 

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6 minutes ago, knap said:

With the tweaked tactic or FM 19?

 

6 minutes ago, knap said:

With the tweaked tactic or FM 19?

Fm 19 tactic got 20 league goals out of Rhian Brewster between jan and may 

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Did you prefer the FM 19 tacti?  The tweaked tactic changed GK Distribution Throw ins and Corners

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13 hours ago, knap said:

With Andy Carroll as 2nd striker that is a decent result.

Yeah not bad considering he was in the lower red for the AF position. I signed Mariano from Real Madrid in Jan but he has hardly set the world on fire.  Joelinton did very well too.  St Maximin and Almiron turned out to be very effective wingers (Almiron quickly retrained as an ML) and Shelvey was outstanding in the DLP role.

Only 2 things I found not so good with the tactic was that the wingers would dribble to the touchline then veer towards goal and then try to score from a ridiculous angle rather than squaring the ball to the strikers though that could be an ME problem.  The other thing was that I tended to get done defensively with balls over the top but again that could be an ME issue and also a lack of pace from my CB's.  It may be worth you watching the games for while @knap to see if you get the same issues as described here and what could possibly be done to tweak it.

I have been taken over at Newcastle and have £57 million to spend for next season so I will see if I can buy pacier CB's to see if this can combat the balls over the top.

All in all, I was very impressed with this tactic particularly for a squad like Newcastle's.  I will keep you posted as to what happens in Season 2.

Thanks again for the tactic @knap

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17 minutes ago, knap said:

Did you prefer the FM 19 tacti?  The tweaked tactic changed GK Distribution Throw ins and Corners

I haven’t tried the tweak but always looking to improve 

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ME and AI tactics defensive intelligence cause these problems. Because one v ones are so bad balls OTT are not an issue. The risk reward is for attacking and high line

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Having just signed Mason Greenwood and Jadon Sancho at Spurs, I'd be keen to test out a formation with 2 strikers.  442 sounds like it could suit, with Son on the left, Sancho on the right, Celso, Ndombele or Ali in the middle.  Kane and Greenwood up front.

Is there a tweaked version of 442 doing the rounds?  Or is there a formation anyone else would recommend?  

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With Spurs in FM 19 Ihe most successful tactics were 343 IF and 4132 but with an AP instead of CM.

There are tweaked tactics for 4132 and 442 but they are not fully tested so best to use FM 19 version and then try tweaked.

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Okay, I'll try the 4132 tactic first.  

Which version is the most suitable?

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I am test tweak new tactic please knap

I am French i play Saint Etienne

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15 minutes ago, knap said:

With Spurs in FM 19 Ihe most successful tactics were 343 IF and 4132 but with an AP instead of CM.

There are tweaked tactics for 4132 and 442 but they are not fully tested so best to use FM 19 version and then try tweaked.

hey @knapi have been trying out alot of the reccomended tactics placing 2nd in both years, would like to test the tweaked 4-4-2 :)

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The FM 19 top tactics are considered to be

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under) (recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloadsPI

PILGRIMAGE 4141 P106 ALLCUPS NO LOSS (Newcastle PL and FA Cup Win)

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapCD4141P106ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf45.19 kB · 215 downloads

Wolves Tactic 4132 (PL Win) (Recommended for LL )

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBIWSPKnapWOLVESP95KINGP112.fmf45.34 kB · 122 downloads

Wolves Tactic Goodbye 4132 (PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5GOODBYE4132PFDWSPKnapP108ALLCUPSNOLOSSWOLVESPL.fmf45.41 kB · 63 downloads

 

 

P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under)

 

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 85 downloads 

 

P112

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmf 44.96 kB · 72 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

P110

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 134 downloads

 

P108 no loss 4411 (top)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmf 45.25 kB · 46 downloads

P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf 45.23 kB · 41 downloads

P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_

!!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 43 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

(P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109 (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 AWAY Tactic (underdog tactic)

!!!!FM19.3.4PILGRIMAGE4141KnapP107EC.fmf44.1 kB · 113 downloads

 

 

WULF 4141

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB · 92 downloads

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs)

The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109

Other tactics

4132

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB · 144 downloads

41221 Oxford

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB · 98 downloads

4411

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB · 78 downloads

41311

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB · 80 downloads

 

451

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB · 93 downloads

 

442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS

 

ADDITIONAL TACTICS

4141 Solounamigo  AWAYv4 (Top, Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

AWAYv4_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104.fmf45.28 kB · 129 downloads

 

4132 AP Matiz (Top Sub)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102.fmf45.36 kB · 144 downloads

442 Matiz (Top Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULFKnapMatizWPF442P104ALLCUPS.fmf44.98 kB · 200 downloads

4231 DM VOL

4231 DM VOL

!FM19.3.5BEOWULF4231DMVOLKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf44.9 kB · 66 downloads

 

 

4141 IWB

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4141P107.fmf45.21 kB · 36 downloads

 

SALAH TACTIC

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP104ALLCUPSSALAH.fmf45.32 kB · 125 downloads

 

HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

10 SEASON TACTIC (Wolves PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP109ALLCUPSNOLOSS10SEASONS.fmf45.28 kB · 80 downloads

MU 7 SEASON TACTIC  INVERTED WINGER (TOP and UNDER) (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFIWKnapP110ECCCMU7SEASONS.fmf44.94 kB · 44 downloads

 

TH 12 SEASON TACTIC P108

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapTHP108.fmf45.29 kB · 78 downloads

424 IF P108 (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101.fmf44.75 kB · 91 downloads

 

HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

 

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)Kn

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The FM 19 tactics have been tested over numerous games compared to tweaked tactics and most of them still work in FM 20.

The tactic I used with Spurs was the Matiz AP tweak.

343 IF is not on recommended list but FM 20 version is posted above.

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Hi Knap,

 

I have been a CM'r since the first edition back in the 90's. Have been a casual gamer at best for the last few years. Would be very interested to test your tweaked 442 if you don't mind. I'll make an effort to get into the game again after a few years away, and an effective good old 442 would certainly help me get going again.

 

Cheers!

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24 minutes ago, knap said:

The FM 19 tactics have been tested over numerous games compared to tweaked tactics and most of them still work in FM 20.

The tactic I used with Spurs was the Matiz AP tweak.

343 IF is not on recommended list but FM 20 version is posted above.

Thanks Knap.  Will try Matiz now.

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1 hour ago, knap said:

ME and AI tactics defensive intelligence cause these problems. Because one v ones are so bad balls OTT are not an issue. The risk reward is for attacking and high line

Seems to be a hang over from FM19 then @knap :lol:

Having said that, I witnessed Joelinton on 1 occasion on FM20 being put through one and one and he rounded the keeper and scored.  I have never seen that happen in FM19! So an ever so slight improvement on one on ones :D

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1 hour ago, knap said:

ME and AI tactics defensive intelligence cause these problems. Because one v ones are so bad balls OTT are not an issue. The risk reward is for attacking and high line

Forgot to also mention that on numerous occasions, it was 4 attackers vs 2 defenders against me also.   Again could be an ME thing

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If you have 2 attacking WBs (Lpool in RL) then Attacking IF/Ws will be behind in space with then a AMC and ST attacking MC and WB and then a major overload, but also a huge risk. There was a discussion about when 1 WB attacks the other defends or a MC will fill in as a defender which is more defender intelligence. Although MC and Lpool tend to be open at back but prefer more aggressive attacking. I always considered the Fergie MU was so dominant was due to the attacking nature of the tactics home and away.

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The ME is still 19.3 so no 19.3.6 tactics are on recommended list, but there are 19.3.6 tactics posted in thread/

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@knap Could you pm tweaked 4132 p112? Just finished first season with fm19 version, and would like to try tweaked for next season to compare.

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4 hours ago, Corned beef & cabbage said:

Hi Knap,

 

I have been a CM'r since the first edition back in the 90's. Have been a casual gamer at best for the last few years. Would be very interested to test your tweaked 442 if you don't mind. I'll make an effort to get into the game again after a few years away, and an effective good old 442 would certainly help me get going again.

 

Cheers!

To quote myself: do anyone of you nice fellow FM'ers have Knap's tweaked 442, and would you be so kind as to send it to me for testing? Been away from FM for a few years (registered here in 2000..), and would love to give it a whirl with West Ham to see if it can perform better than Pellegrini's approach IRL.

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14 minutes ago, Corned beef & cabbage said:

To quote myself: do anyone of you nice fellow FM'ers have Knap's tweaked 442, and would you be so kind as to send it to me for testing? Been away from FM for a few years (registered here in 2000..), and would love to give it a whirl with West Ham to see if it can perform better than Pellegrini's approach IRL.

It's up to knap to share as it is his tactic.  If he wanted it widely available, I am sure he would have posted it on this forum.  PM him and ask.

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If you can try the FM 19 versions which still work, then I can send a tweaked version which is not fully tested and subject to change.

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36 minutes ago, denners31 said:

It's up to knap to share as it is his tactic.  If he wanted it widely available, I am sure he would have posted it on this forum.  PM him and ask.

Yes you're right. Should have asked for PM. 

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So i would say the 4132 p112 still works really well. Only one loss in europe and the same in the league, both with "2nd team".

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Considering no LT exploit I would be happy with those results.

Short Corners are still low which is why I'm trying to find a better reasonable set up.

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So it seems 442 is still alive for FM20. I was waiting for the new tactics to be released before purchasing but I may just give the beta a try now.

Of course I know that the full release could change these results drastically but for now seems all is well.  

Will give the 109Pts a go in Lower League tomorrow and I will post results in here. 

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