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4 ore fa, knap ha scritto:

I've not looked at the new training and even in old days I used Darkstarr training.

Training roles helps decisions

For the player in general I would use the aa round roles such as Complete Fwd complete WB BPD DLP AP Winger. IF.

However, if you have a player that has poacher attributes then train as a poacher and enhance that ability despite playing as a PF.

What does PF mean??

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22 hours ago, knap said:

I've not looked at the new training and even in old days I used Darkstarr training.

Training roles helps decisions

For the player in general I would use the aa round roles such as Complete Fwd complete WB BPD DLP AP Winger. IF.

However, if you have a player that has poacher attributes then train as a poacher and enhance that ability despite playing as a PF.

Whats aa round roles? xD I am confusion

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On 30/07/2019 at 17:44, TONY1969 said:

 

 

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Great job. Could you post your team? Have you used the same tactic every season?

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On 26/10/2018 at 22:36, knap said:

At the end of day it may not be an issue. This is before CL Final and the cautious tactic is what I used after the 2nd goal, This reduces intensity if you need to close out a game.

 

FM19PILGRIMAGE451KnapCAUTIOUS.fmf 43.9 kB · 306 downloads

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Knap, would this tactic still work on latest update?

 

is there a version thats not cautious? 

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Apart from the top tactics on recommended list on page 42, there are a couple recommended for LL. If needed can also drop DL and LOE to standard, and you can mix tactics say 4132 442 and 4141.

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The highest pts total will have best away record.

There is a specific away tactic near end of recommended list and the assumption would be 4141 as best formation to use.

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On 01/08/2019 at 19:15, cal909 said:

Great job. Could you post your team? Have you used the same tactic every season?

yes I did used the same tactic except the second season in the Premier League which I used the 4141 for away games

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Which tactic would you recommend to use for Chelsea with a transfer ban in the game? I want to win the league and champions league if possible 

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Any from recommended list on page 42 but 4132 p112 no loss is probably best top team tactic.

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6 hours ago, Constantine said:

@TONY1969 If you don't mind me asking, what's the name of that skin?? It's so reminiscent of past CM games (or is it just me??)...

YACS

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Hi Knap! What type of strikers would you recommend for your P112 tactic? I’ve noticed the PI’s are slightly different. Cheers

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Hey knap, thanks for your great work.

 

What would you suggest to keep the lead in the late phase of the game? I found goal conceded mostly in the last 15 minutes. Should I drop the mentality or turn WB into FB?

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For SUS Tactics

Change to defensive WBs or no nonsense FBs

Drop to Defensive

Add Timewasting.

Can also be used after a red card but not foolproof.

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The top tactics are considered to be

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloads

P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under)

P109

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 85 downloads 

 

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmf 44.96 kB · 72 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

P110

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 134 downloads

 

P108 no loss 4411 (top)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmf 45.25 kB · 46 downloads

P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf 45.23 kB · 41 downloads

P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_

!!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 43 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

(P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf45.01 kB · 102 downloads

 

 

WULF 4141

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB · 92 downloads

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs)

The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109

Other tactics

4132

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB · 144 downloads

41221 Oxford

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB · 98 downloads

4411

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB · 78 downloads

41311

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB · 80 downloads

 

451

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB · 93 downloads

 

442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS

 

ADDITIONAL TACTICS

4141 Solounamigo  AWAYv4 (Top, Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

AWAYv4_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104.fmf45.28 kB · 129 downloads

 

4132 AP Matiz (Top Sub)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102.fmf45.36 kB · 144 downloads

442 Matiz (Top Sub and Under) Recommended for LL

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULFKnapMatizWPF442P104ALLCUPS.fmf44.98 kB · 200 downloads

4231 DM VOL

4231 DM VOL

!FM19.3.5BEOWULF4231DMVOLKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf44.9 kB · 66 downloads

 

 

4141 IWB

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4141P107.fmf45.21 kB · 36 downloads

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Hey Knap, just some short questions, because I am not certai: I am managing a Top 4 Team in my League and am trying to decide between the 41311 Pilgrimage and the 4411 P108(want to use a 10). I don't have good inverted Wingbacks or a Mezzala. Which of your Tactics would be more solid? Currently I suppose the 41311 when I play  CL or Top Teams in my League and 4411 otherwise.

And if I went looking for an IWB what are the most solid attributes, because I don't see too many of those in my Scouting.

 

Ps. What does it mean with your Top, sub and under? Top for top Team and under for underdog?

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I also have the same question. Why 442 with two MEZ is more suitable for underdog than 442 with BBM and DLP? It seems that the former one is more aggressive than the latter

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Ignore the roles, just look at positions for players. Even a No 10 can be used as a forward or MC depending on player.

I set up tactics with top teams so typically MU MC Lpool, 

The sub top underdog definitions are related to long term testing which use test leagues with test teams. These use either sub top and sub mid which are teams with a defined CA or a test team with very high reputation or very low reputation which changes how the AI play against these teams. These test are over a many games and one of my tactics has been tested over 996 games. From this sort of testing the topformations are 4132 442 and 4141.

For Top teams the pts total is in tactic so 4132 P112 ALLCUPS NO LOSS is the top tactic.

For Sub Top (say next  7 teams below MU)  P112 averages 2.3 pts per game over 270 games

4411 P108 averages 2.18 pts per game over180 games

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I use DLP BBM as a standard MC set up but the same players will be used for a Mez on S.

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Thanks for the quick reply. I have seen some screens of your excel table with the Point averages. Is that table free to acces? 

The reason behind the amc was Not that I had one, more that I wanted one. 

And is your 4132 with or without AP fix? 

 

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This is how the 4132 positions work for Spurs and Kingstonian. I do not have the players to play roles just positions. With Spurs Eriksen is CM and the AP tweak worked well with Spurs using Eriksen. The tweak is worth trying and seeing if you get better results with or without AP.

The top tactic is without AP.

I am on MR L Discord and at the moment the unofficial test league is available under tactic testing and is independently tested, as I have no involvement in this testing. If you want to join I can PM an invite.

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Hi Knap, playing Cardiff on 19.3.6,  I have a bit of an unusual request.

I can only seem to produce tactics that either fail miserably or that are way overpowered. 

What I'm looking for is a tactic that is reliable but might take a team like Cardiff at least three seasons to be challenging for Champions League, and maybe another couple to be challenging for the title. You know, a tactic that I can have faith in that if I get the right players in, I can improve slowly but surely.

I prefer to stick with one tactic with no OI.

As I said, bit unusual, but all suggestions appreciated.

Thanks very much.

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I did a 4 season test with Lpool using a 4231 (above) which is a weak formation but does well as the team improves to Lpool standard. Another would be Money 451 a solid formation with a DM.

Why not post your overpowered tactic or have it tested on a test site.

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Thanks very much for the response. I will try Money 451 as I like playing with a DM.

I am still testing the 4231, but here is the overpowered 442. 

It's actually a variation of your 19.3.5WULFKnapMatizWPF442P104ALLCUPS

I switched a few positions around and pushed the line right up and maxed out the intensity,

It doesn't seem to matter whether the centrebacks are central defenders or ballplaying defenders, but I keep the rest the same. It just went mental. Strangely, the scores weren't mad or anything, but we just kept winning. I had basically about half the original Cardiff squad but with Idah as AF and Luca Connell and Gogia as the wingers. Few others too, but not much money was spent. Won the league in second season with Cardiff.

See how it works for you.  I stopped using it because it was not enjoyable.

Timmy442.fmf

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Hi Knap, How should I arrange the strong foot of AMCL and AMCR in your 41221Oxford tactic? Should I let right foot player on AMCR or AMCL?

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On 06/08/2019 at 11:45, knap said:

This is how the 4132 positions work for Spurs and Kingstonian. I do not have the players to play roles just positions. With Spurs Eriksen is CM and the AP tweak worked well with Spurs using Eriksen. The tweak is worth trying and seeing if you get better results with or without AP.

The top tactic is without AP.

I am on MR L Discord and at the moment the unofficial test league is available under tactic testing and is independently tested, as I have no involvement in this testing. If you want to join I can PM an invite.

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I'm currently using this on a brand new 1860 Munich save - it's a beast.

First season: Made the semi-finals of the cup before knocked out 1-0 by Stuttgart AET / Won the league unbeaten, drew 4 games. (Bundesliga 3)

Second season: Knocked out of the cup 1st Round by Frankfurt 1-0 / Currently top of the league, unbeaten, at the winter break having drawn 2 games. (Bundesliga 2)

 

SOLID. Thanks, Knap.

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Hi Knap, 

Thanks for all your amazing effort! Incredible. I currently Newcastle and what would you say is your favourite tactic? I've read through all your messages but I've confused myself!!

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On 22/06/2019 at 05:16, TheStealthless said:

@knap I wondered if you could give me a recommendation of which of your 4-4-2 tactics you'd use as designated home and away and if you'd make any changes specifially for the away version?

If it helps in any way, I'm at recently relegated Spezia in Serie B who are predicted to finish mid-table.

Like previous years, I appreciate your work.

 

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I seldom make home away tactic sets. However Top and Sub recommended home and under dog for away. Can also try the tweaked away tactic.

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