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Which 4-4-2 ? With the mezzala at the center ?

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There is no definitive testing, so there is just a list of recommended tactics, May be a few pages back. The p112 no loss 4132 is top tactic, which also has AP tweak or P109 442 or P106 (P103).

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Together with your underdog results looks a good all round tactic for any team.

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They can play positions without a problem. The problem is when Kane gets injured.

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Posted (edited)

The top tactics are considered to be

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloads

P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under)

P109

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 85 downloads 

 

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmf 44.96 kB · 72 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

P110

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 134 downloads

 

P108 no loss 4411 (top)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmf 45.25 kB · 46 downloads

P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf 45.23 kB · 41 downloads

P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_

!!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 43 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

(P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf45.01 kB · 102 downloads

 

 

WULF 4141

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB · 92 downloads

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs)

The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109

Other tactics

4132

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB · 144 downloads

41221 Oxford

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB · 98 downloads

4411

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB · 78 downloads

41311

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB · 80 downloads

 

451

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB · 93 downloads

 

442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS

 

ADDITIONAL TACTICS

4141 Solounamigo  AWAYv4(Top, Sub and Under)

AWAYv4_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104.fmf

 

4132 AP Matiz (Top Sub)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102.fmf

442 Matiz (Top Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULFKnapMatizWPF442P104ALLCUPS.fmf

 

 

 

Edited by knap

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Hello Knap, i´m trying your 4132. Do the wingers need to be decent at defending? I have Emre Mor who's super fast and a great dribbler but his tackling is 5 and i´m not sure if i should use him. Thanks!!

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They can be attack minded like Salah or Mane, just treat them as a winger position.

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5 hours ago, solounamigo said:

Thanks for sharing my tweak, for all the other interested ones - this is the one I used in my Nuernberg save. :)

Thanks for both of your hard work.


@solounamigo would you now recommend your home tweak for home games and Nuernberg away tactic for away games? Or would you go with one tactic?

Thanks!

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vor 19 Stunden schrieb cal909:

Thanks for both of your hard work.


@solounamigo would you now recommend your home tweak for home games and Nuernberg away tactic for away games? Or would you go with one tactic?

Thanks!

Just use it at home and away! :) It's important that noone is set for throw ins and corners and do not use any OI (your assistant manager should not set it by the way)

Edited by solounamigo

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That was the Matiz 442, which won PL with Wolves.

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On 16/07/2019 at 17:10, knap said:

AWAYv4_ 4411.fmfAWAYv4_ 4411.fmf

quick test of solo tweak, also used own tweak for very easy home games(only used home to teams 15th-20th) all the rest was solo tweak

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was only 4th after 20 matches when i see  we shouldnt use OI's, took my assman off from OI's duties and result got much better

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Merhaba @knap fm2017 4230 KB ,fm2018 523 KB ve fm 2019 da ise 424 İF olan taktiklerle basit bir şekilde küçük takımlarla şampiyon olabilen taktikler yayınlıyordun. Ancak 4132 bir sene işlerse 2. sene işlemiyor. Mesela Fenerbahçe ile 2 sezonda Şampiyonlar Ligini almak istiyorum. Taktik Lütfen...

Edited by huseyinbayram19

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I would mix a 4132 tactic with 442 and 4141 to add more variety, 

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Hi knap and everyone ,

Does anyone want to be a hero and enlighten me with the player instructions for the 4132 112 points no loss formation? 

Also anyone have any tips on scoring reports in terms of the 0-100 scout report rating ? Not the stars system 

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Can download if using I pad. Mobile is not same ME.

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7 minutes ago, knap said:

Can download if using I pad. Mobile is not same ME.

I don’t have a pc to download it onto the iPad unfortunately 🤦‍♂️

Do you have any tips on the scout reports numbers (the one within the magnifying glass) not the star rating ? 

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I've used a few Knap tactics in Fm19 - I used the 4312 with a lower league dutch team (that I had already taken to the top division, but was hovering over the relegation zone) - and it dragged us up to 10th and safety - very nice.

What I'd like to ask for those who have run a few seasons with this and/or the 442:

1. Do you have a fave tactic based on variety of goals and entertainment? I love to win of course, but I like to see good football and goals via on the ground through balls seem rare. I'm not discounting it could be my quality of players as well. But I'd love to know which tactic you have used that spread the goals and had different ways of scoring. Would the 442 bring both midfielders more into the game for example?

2. I don't really want an overpowered set piece routine. For throw ins in particular. So I'll just set up some mixed ones. Are there any good corner routines that offer a mixture of goals? So a late running midfielder scoring or a towering CD header? I'm greedy and I like a little reality and variety. A real team wouldn't pass every corner short, but aim for a number of routines.

I think there was an unplugged version of the 4132 - but it never got a goal for me (again, could be my team).

These tactics are superb and the amount of trophies people have won are proof of that. I'm just wondering what tactic has given the most variety of goals and if there were any good set pieces I could learn from that provide different sorts of chances.

Keep up the good work. Cheers

 

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On 18/07/2019 at 23:28, knap said:

I would mix a 4132 tactic with 442 and 4141 to add more variety, 

I use the 4132 (112 No loss) and 442 (109 All Cups) but not sure which 4141 is the best at the moment?

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Still hoping we may have longer test results soon.

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*Update*

Starting my 6th season at Arsenal (2024) and was having great success using !!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFWMKnapP108ALLCUPS.fmf  winning 5 straight PL titles by roughly 20 points each season. The last 3 years however,  we lost 2 of the last 3 CL finals were knocked out in the quarter finals another year. We won the CL the first two years I was at Arsenal but I also had a veteran squad. I've built a younger & faster team now so I wonder if youth comes into play with their performance in big matches. 

Going to try !!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4231KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf for a season. I had control of Brazil and used this tactic. We annihilated the competition in Copa America with it.  

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Do you think it may be a personality or determination issue compared to veteran players?

I did a 5 year Lpool test and the last year I think they won all cups.

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1 hour ago, knap said:

Do you think it may be a personality or determination issue compared to veteran players?

I did a 5 year Lpool test and the last year I think they won all cups.

I'm not sure about the personality issue. There was a "struggling to connect" report with a couple of players earlier but I no longer see it. 

Team Report says "Leadership Void". I still have Ramsey on the squad as Vice Captain but he's on his last legs.

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Dynamics suggests I lack "influential" players.

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Determination:

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Pietro Pellegri is a bit of an enigma. He's considered world class and dominates the PL every year at the top in scoring and is a main reason why we make it as far as the CL Finals. Yet he's disappeared when he was needed most-CL Finals. 

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The loss of Depay, Mkhitaryan, & Aubameyang, has created a void I suppose. I guess it adds to the realism.

Strange though; the squad is good & talented enough to destroy the competition in England by miles yet keep falling short in Europe. 

 

 

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Hey matiz , with your 442 what kind of striker you put on right side ? Instructions are different for left and right strikers . The right striker have more individual instructions. It seems that he scores lore goals too

 

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41 minutes ago, AZAZEL8 said:

Hey matiz , with your 442 what kind of striker you put on right side ? Instructions are different for left and right strikers . The right striker have more individual instructions. It seems that he scores lore goals too

 

Everything is set by my assistant

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Sry for asking but where is the 424 IF version, the ones which I can find use Winger roles.

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@knap

It will fit for the 19.3.5 version? 

If so,  can you tell me where I can find them?

* Final question by me, do you have a good formation that includes ST target Men?

Thanks!!!

Edited by merdolp41

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!!! = top of list so easy to find, no indication of quality.

 

In general the ME has not changed and the older tactics can work but do not have OP long throws. Also the top tactics are based on 442 formations rather than 424 so will in general be weaker, so more a top team tactic.

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Hi Knap , first at all , very thanks for the tactics , all years normaly i use some of those tackings and rotate depent of the team :) , so thanks for that work. Now i have  a question if possible ofc , i like your 424 WINGER AF but i notice you dont upgrade it for new patch , is ask a lot to you tune it up for new patch please?

 

Btw what tactic you enjoy more to play with a half table Premier League candidate?

 

Thanks for the time ;)

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The 424 Winger is updated to 19.3 and there have been no ME changes so up to date. 

4132 and 442 are stronger tactics than a 424 by about 15 % - 25%.  It makes more sense to play attacking wingers in a 442/4132/4141/4411 than a 424/4231 even in a DW role.

Mid table but should be on list of recommended tactics

442

P109ALLCUPS

P110

P106ALLCUPS

P103

4141

PILGRIMAGE 4141 P107

4411

P108 4411 ALLCUPS NO LOSS

4132

4132 NO LOSS and AP Tweak

4231

4231 P104

 

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I noticed that 4-4-2 is the best tactic in this fm, and the attackers with the role of PF-AT are very effective

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It would be from recommended list - the highest with a top team is 4132 P112.

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15 minutes ago, knap said:

It would be from recommended list - the highest with a top team is 4132 P112.

Yes but my team is not the most important, works well too?

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I assumed national team, but the recommended tactics can be used for any standard of team but in general the 4132 p112 or 442 p109 would be the top tactics,

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