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On 06/07/2019 at 14:21, solounamigo said:

Okay guys, just forget what I wrote down about that tweaking so far.

I did a few test with some other teams. Please do not touch the defensive line and the pressing line. Just use it as it comes with the original tactic.

The changes which are working great are the following ones:

- change the CM A to AP A (thanks to @matiz96)

- set the mentality to positive / control

 

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Tactic Please?

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7 minutes ago, Cooter said:

Tactic Please?

It is 4-1-3-2 with the change of cm-at to ap-at and changes the mentality to positive

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You have to tweak original tactic.

I am testing with Spurs with just AP Change. Can also see with Spurs how the squad does not fit roles in most positions.

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Third season with Benfica :)

This year

Home tactic:

4132 (Beowulf 19.3.5)

HOME_!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS_SOLOUNAMIGO.fmf

Away tactic:

4141 (Beowulf 19.3.5)

AWAY_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGO.fmf

 

 

Both slightly tweaked:

home: set MC to AP A

away: set d-line and pressing line to standard and some other things I can't remember

 

I think the 4141 could be my new favourite away tactic. With the 4132 at home your team's nearly unbeatable (sure it depends on the CA / PA as well) + coaches, training and so on.

Thank you knap :)

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CL-final

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EDIT: Added both slightly tweaked tactics to this post. Hope it's okay knap, but there are asking so many ppl here and the pms are getting more.. :)

 

 

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25 minutes ago, solounamigo said:

Third season with Benfica :)

This year

Home tactic:

4132 (Beowulf 19.3.5)

Away tactic:

4141 (Beowulf 19.3.5)

 

HOME.fmf 45.19 kB · 2 downloads

AWAY.fmf 45.07 kB · 2 downloads

 

Both slightly tweaked:

home: set MC to AP A

away: set d-line and pressing line to standard

 

I think the 4141 could be my new favourite away tactic. With the 4132 at home your team's nearly unbeatable (sure it depends on the CA / PA as well) + coaches, training and so on.

Thank you knap :)

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CL-final

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EDIT: Added both slightly tweaked tactics to this post. Hope it's okay knap, but there are asking so many ppl here and the pms are getting more.. :)

 

with strong rivals at home, you used the tactic "Home"

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vor 4 Minuten schrieb matiz96:

with strong rivals at home, you used the tactic "Home"

yeah, I used it all the time at home. in the cup finals (because they aren't at home) I used the away tactic :)

You're idea with the AP - A is amazing

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The top tactics are considered to be

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloads

P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under)

P109

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 85 downloads 

 

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmf 44.96 kB · 72 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

P110

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 134 downloads

 

P108 no loss 4411 (top)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmf 45.25 kB · 46 downloads

P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf 45.23 kB · 41 downloads

P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_

!!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 43 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

(P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf45.01 kB · 102 downloads

 

 

WULF 4141

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB · 92 downloads

 

PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs)

The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109

Other tactics

4132

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB · 144 downloads

41221 Oxford

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB · 98 downloads

4411

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB · 78 downloads

41311

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB · 80 downloads

 

451

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB · 93 downloads

 

442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS

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On 06/07/2019 at 17:57, abbespl said:

it's my first season in Ligue 1 after straight promotion in previous season. i think results speaks for themselves, there is nothing to add in words. simply best available tactic on the market :).

great job master Knap, as always.  

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Ligue 1 Conforama_ Widok ogólny Zapowiedź sezonu.png

Hey!

did your u19s have no real players in the first season?

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5 hours ago, knap said:

Just changed role 

Ok so I need to use just this 1 tactic? It won't be found out after 3rd season? 

 

Currently I am using this as home and another one as away tactics and its so stupid to change home and away because my away tactics all it gets are draws. 

 

 

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Not sure if tactics get found out. The MR L test is 180 games so equivalent to about 4 seasons, so there should be a marked deterioration of results towards end of test. 

 

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15 minutes ago, knap said:

Not sure if tactics get found out. The MR L test is 180 games so equivalent to about 4 seasons, so there should be a marked deterioration of results towards end of test. 

 

MR L test? I am speaking about the 4132 matiz tweak 

Is there marked deterioration? :)

 

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10 minutes ago, knap said:

Not sure if tactics get found out. The MR L test is 180 games so equivalent to about 4 seasons, so there should be a marked deterioration of results towards end of test. 

 

I went back to the full version of FM after finding out there was a skin that allowed Instant Result. 

I never change tactics if I'm winning. Been using  !!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFWMKnapP108ALLCUPS.fmf exclusively. 

  First season in the new save with Inter, we won Scudetto, CL, & Coppa Italia.

Got hired by Arsenal the next year. We won PL & CL 1st year, won PL, CL, & FA cup the next year. Won PL, FA Cup, but lost a gut wrenching 1-2 CL Final to Man U. 

4+ seasons without changing tactics using Instant Result (No Match Plan) and still haven't gotten found out. 

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14 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

I went back to the full version of FM after finding out there was a skin that allowed Instant Result. 

I never change tactics if I'm winning. Been using  !!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFWMKnapP108ALLCUPS.fmf exclusively. 

  First season in the new save with Inter, we won Scudetto, CL, & Coppa Italia.

Got hired by Arsenal the next year. We won PL & CL 1st year, won PL, CL, & FA cup the next year. Won PL, FA Cup, but lost a gut wrenching 1-2 CL Final to Man U. 

4+ seasons without changing tactics using Instant Result (No Match Plan) and still haven't gotten found out. 

What is MR L test? 

Is it about the 4132 tactics? 

 

And did you use yours on the home and away matches? How do you use instant result on full version? O.o

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On previous page solounamigo finished 8 seasons.

The only time I change tactics is to use a SUS, but I often don't even bother using a SUS tactic

Instant result skin.

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19 minutes ago, knap said:

On previous page solounamigo finished 8 seasons.

The only time I change tactics is to use a SUS, but I often don't even bother using a SUS tactic

Instant result skin.

He changed 4132 and 4141 for away. I get. Many draws with the 4141 but I am currently at young Parma side with 90% wonderkids. 

Do I keep the positive mentality or just keep the attacking? 

What's a SUS? Suspension? And what do you mean when you write - Top, Sub, Under in your tactics. 

 

I am sorry I haven't played FM since 14

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I just use attacking - you can use very attacking or positive but the optimum is attacking.

SUS - Shut up Shop 

Top Clubs Lpool MU etc

Sub Top  Spurs Everton

Under Dogs Crystal Palace 

Previous page for 8th season - Benfica is new.

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This looks good, I can say that in all that years of FM there never was a tactic which got "caught" by the AI.

There are just sometimes several factors as bad form, no luck and so on.

I added that passing on short now as my home tactic, keita was on fire as I can see ;)

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vor 33 Minuten schrieb Scruffer23:

Why do you have salah A’s right fwd when he has strong left and vice versa for firminho 

I think the assistant manager did it like that ...

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Parma-Calcio-1913-Overview-2.png

Parma-Calcio-1913-Senior-Matches.png

 

My Parma 3rd season, using the 4-1-3-2 with Matiz tweap AP - Att.

For away I use the same with Positive mentality but I still lose from teams in 18th place.

 

any advice?

 

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Am 13.7.2019 um 18:37 schrieb deviangel:

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My Parma 3rd season, using the 4-1-3-2 with Matiz tweap AP - Att.

For away I use the same with Positive mentality but I still lose from teams in 18th place.

 

any advice.

 

 

AWAY_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGO.fmf

Try this one way ;) it's knap's 4141 with some tweaks. Playing my fourth season with Benfica right now and this really helped me in away matches.

My PA of my team is actually ~145 and I'm rocking it :)

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17 minutes ago, solounamigo said:

AWAYv2.fmf 45.07 kB · 1 download

Try this one way ;) it's knap's 4141 with some tweaks. Playing my fourth season with Benfica right now and this really helped me in away matches.

 My PA of my team is actually ~145 and I'm rocking it :)

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Thank you, I know my Parma isn't the strongest but I just lost 5-1 from Juventus...

 

I used to make tactics back in the days on fm14 etc but wow FM has changed, I'm lost.... :)

 

Maybe the instant result affects the tactics somehow?

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Try the away tweak if you want to, but remember that the tactic needs to be trained well until it's fluid.

Another thing is that the instant result isn't the best way. I'm always watching my matches in highlighted mode on th fastest option.

Most of the tactics are working better in that way.

 

There are many other improtant things to be known like great staff, training, morale and fitness of your squad..

don't have time actually so I can not explain it like it should be explained, but maybe knap can help out there :)

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14 minutes ago, solounamigo said:

Try the away tweak if you want to, but remember that the tactic needs to be trained well until it's fluid.

 Another thing is that the instant result isn't the best way. I'm always watching my matches in highlighted mode on th fastest option.

 Most of the tactics are working better in that way.

  

There are many other improtant things to be known like great staff, training, morale and fitness of your squad..

don't have time actually so I can not explain it like it should be explained, but maybe knap can help out there :)

The thing was the instant result. I started using the AP-Att with Positive as away tactics and watching matches I won the last 10 matches and the final in the Eu CUP.

 

Let's see the next season is the key it'll be fourth :)

 

Thank you

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41 minutes ago, deviangel said:

The thing was the instant result. I started using the AP-Att with Positive as away tactics and watching matches I won the last 10 matches and the final in the Eu CUP.

 

Let's see the next season is the key it'll be fourth :)

 

Thank you

Have you changed the mentality Positive in the tactics of Away v2?

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Few pages back but this is the Flat 442 P109 with Parma. I have found the flat 442s marginally better in LL,

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You should be able to influence result more than when using Instant Result but instant result can be used with these tactics.

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9 hours ago, knap said:

Few pages back but this is the Flat 442 P109 with Parma. I have found the flat 442s marginally better in LL,

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 which tactic ???  could you post ?? thanks

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I would have to see what is happening. Can you send me your game.

P109 is in list above.

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In the list it is random.

However the throw ins and corners the takers are shown in routine and are the WBs

DR is taker

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15 minutes ago, knap said:

In the list it is random.

However the throw ins and corners the takers are shown in routine and are the WBs

DR is taker

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So I should select the full backs as takers ??

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Is it a difference if I set them or just let them empty?

I never set the corner or throw-in takers in your tactics so far.

I'm asking because, for example for TFF's tactics it's always an important part to set them correctly. 

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I leave the list of takers empty, and never tried to test specifying because it would depend on each team. With Spurs Eriksen often takes corners which means no short corner, or a stay back WB will take corner which leaves no player staying back. All this depends on the 11 on pitch. If this becomes a problem then it is worth tweaking the set up

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1 hour ago, knap said:

I would have to see what is happening. Can you send me your game.

P109 is in list above.

First season it was working perfect, but now one defender always stays in correct position to break trow-in exploit... I'll try to record a video...

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Finished fourth season with Benfica

Dominated it again this year. The CL-final was a little bit harder, because I substituted 3 players at halftime and then at the beginning of the second half, one injured directly.

So I had to play with one man down until the extra time :)

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CL-final

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