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Any 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-2-2-1 on 20.4.1 that are fun to play with and get the striker scoring? Tried quite a few in the last couple of days and none of them are getting the best out of the striker or AMC/attacking centre mid. I have a wealth of promising attacking players but cannot find a system that gets them firing

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4231 parisianne has my prem league striker 34 goals so far. about 10-15 each AMC/L/R

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Just a general thought: Unbelievable how it's almost impossible to stick with one tactic for too long in '20.  At least that's what I see deep into my save with all regens. Gotta keep the AI guessing. Nice that there plenty of tactics available though. 

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19 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

Just a general thought: Unbelievable how it's almost impossible to stick with one tactic for too long in '20.  At least that's what I see deep into my save with all regens. Gotta keep the AI guessing. Nice that there plenty of tactics available though. 

typically i can run the same tactic most of the season. then the last 10-15 games the AI works it out so i change slightly. usually same formation, just a different roles.

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41 minutes ago, archerz said:

4231 parisianne has my prem league striker 34 goals so far. about 10-15 each AMC/L/R

Thanks, which 4231 Parisianne version do you recommend? Can you link it please? 

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3 minutes ago, FulhamFc14 said:

Thanks, which 4231 Parisianne version do you recommend? Can you link it please? 

can't remember the download but this is the file... FM20.4.0-4231KnapPar1s-ParisienneWalkwaysSKEWWSSVOL2RDFTweak

 

Search the google doc for 4231 and it'll show up

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On 07/08/2020 at 17:46, knap said:

@psvpingu

Should not need to change mentality with MM

Sadly this hasn't worked, losing most games 1 or 2 nil and only having about 3-4 shots a game, I think the Man marking has made it worse.

Going to switch to RDF tactic which name I forget but is top of the Mr L underdog table, these have been brilliant up until now, but with an average team in the premier league I'm getting found out.

I have made my own tactic (the flying goose) but don't want to test it on this save

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@psvpingu

The updated recommendations are the MR L Testing tab.

If yo send me yuor game I will have a look 

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1 hour ago, knap said:

@psvpingu

The updated recommendations are the MR L Testing tab.

If yo send me yuor game I will have a look 

I'll PM you later when I'm on my laptop 😀

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Hello i want to ask, is there any tactic with 2 strikers, where striker constantly scoring every match? and my team are considered elite team with mbappe and world class regen on front

Thank You :)

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@hades085

I would try the top 2 striker tactics from MR L Test tab.

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@knap What is your take on AI working out your tactic? Did you test any of the tactics multiple seasons?

Thanks!

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10 minutes ago, Diceman123 said:

@knap What is your take on AI working out your tactic? Did you test any of the tactics multiple seasons?

Thanks!

 

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@Diceman123

Lasy year I tested mulyiple seasons with no problem. This year it is more unpredictable and so far only 2 seasons.

When testing tactics using high and low reputations, the lower rep team (representing an underdog) always performed better than the high rep team. (with my teats) The theory is that the AI play more defensive against a high rep team. Is this because defensive tactics work better or the AI have adapted to your tactics or the ME adjusts your teams ability by say making your team over confident.

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2 dakika önce, knap said:

@Diceman123

Lasy year I tested mulyiple seasons with no problem. This year it is more unpredictable and so far only 2 seasons.

When testing tactics using high and low reputations, the lower rep team (representing an underdog) always performed better than the high rep team. (with my teats) The theory is that the AI play more defensive against a high rep team. Is this because defensive tactics work better or the AI have adapted to your tactics or the ME adjusts your teams ability by say making your team over confident.

 

hello knap link please ?

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Just now, knap said:

@ABRAXUS

Link to what?

Tweaked version of top tactic.         

Can you share the link of this tactic


 
 
 
 
 
 

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@ABRAXUS

Still in testing, just finished Lpool test and noticed that both strikers were scoring well.

It may overall be not as good as current top tactic.

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@Heywood JaBlowme

Difficult to find a way to replicate this in testing. Certainly the high low rep still works the same in FM 20.

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My Team: Bordeaux. Can anybody explain what wrong with my team and why i have disgusting and unstable results? What tactics should I use to get my forwards to start scoring? What do I need to do to get the team to start scoring? what tactics is better to use with such a team?

http://www.mediafire.com/file/756pzn25mkbu9t8/FCB.fm/file

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 @knap  would you set ledas tactical briefings to assistant manager?  thanks

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@Diceman123

5 year run and I would probably conclude that RNG is the major factor

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Posted (edited)

ignore this. reading a post from months ago lol... 

Edited by archerz

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2 hours ago, knap said:

@Diceman123

5 year run and I would probably conclude that RNG is the major factor

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Impressive! So you mean that RNG is in this case positive for using the same tactic?

Which tactic is this one btw?

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Open question to all...how do you deal with the mid season dip?  Do you get it?  Every season I seem to start strong (very strong in some cases) but come December my form goes off a cliff and doesnt really recover.

I have tried all the things suggested by FM Scout but cant seem to snap them out of it!  Players morale very good or better, made signings, given new contracts to top players.  Does switching tactics help even when its been working well?

Any help/advice much appreciated.

Mike

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@Sith Lord

There is RNG which means you can have good luck at beginning of season and then back luck to even out. However the good luck is increaing rep which means at some point the AI will turn more defensive.

When testing tactics using high and low reputations, the lower rep team (representing an underdog) always performed better than the high rep team. (with my teats) The theory is that the AI play more defensive against a high rep team. Is this because defensive tactics work better or the AI have adapted to your tactics or the ME adjusts your teams ability by say making your team over confident.

The easiest way to overcome these factors is by having the best team.. I just run 5 seasons with Lpool and they can dominate the P,L but there will still be RNG from season to season.

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@pinball_88

Can you run it forward to start of next seasons as you should finish 3rd this season.

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@knap Would you suggest a successful tactic for small teams or share your 5 season Liverpool tactic


 
 
 
 
 
 

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@ABRAXUS

I just used the tactic top of my MR L Testing.

I would just avoid the Elite tactics.

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I've been playing FM since the CM times, but never really got into tactics as much as I have this season. I've downloaded the tactic top of M L testing for a wolves save I have going. I was just wondering what kind of attributes I should prioritise across the different positions.

 

Thanks

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Apologies, but how does this Sicilian rank against your top tactics currently? Unlike previous versions,  I haven’t had much luck with this formation in 20.4.1.

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On 08/08/2020 at 20:37, archerz said:

4231 parisianne has my prem league striker 34 goals so far. about 10-15 each AMC/L/R

Thanks. Tactic started well for me but just seemed to fall of a cliff in terms of results in the second half of the season, I was still dominating games but just couldn't score. 

Will look at trying to find another 4231 or 41221 from the testing league where my attacking players are all able to perform. 

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@FulhamFc14

Maybe try Parisienne skew or the normal version as a minor tweak.

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@knap

finished only fifth. lost all matches to teams from the top four and almost all matches against outsiders. the team scores very little. now a new season has started and again after two wins at the start, again defeats against the leaders (without a chance)

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@Dante-Inferno

 

This is a record breaking Celtic squad which may be a guide as to what type of  players work well.

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1 hour ago, knap said:

@FulhamFc14

Maybe try Parisienne skew or the normal version as a minor tweak.

Hi @knap which ID are they? (sorry a little confused with all the similar names) or are they in the MrL tests tab?

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@FulhamFc14

With Both Tabs you can sort by name. Altenating between Parisienne and the skew version may just be enough of a tweak.

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Anyone also noticed that in a 4231 the 2 MC's always have the lowest average rating!?

All my players have 7+ and they have like 6.8 and lower...

 

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I find that the CMs and AMs rarely have good ratings unless they score. Scrape a 7 or so with an assist perhaps but that's it. The rating system is pretty flawed tbh. GKs hardly ever get good ratings either but DMs, especially if playing as a DLP, tend to rate highly.
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11 hours ago, FulhamFc14 said:

Thanks. Tactic started well for me but just seemed to fall of a cliff in terms of results in the second half of the season, I was still dominating games but just couldn't score. 

Will look at trying to find another 4231 or 41221 from the testing league where my attacking players are all able to perform. 

same thing for me really, have a few games where they just can't score. i try to have 2 squads and swap them a lot to keep form as best as possible.

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