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33 minutes ago, knap said:

@kitchin75

VENOM P109 or BEOWULF P105

Which BEOWULF 105 is working best at the moment?  There are quite a few.

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36 minutes ago, knap said:

@kitchin75

VENOM P109 or BEOWULF P105

just swapped to this as 4222 wasn't working for me, decent results but conceeding too many goals. First game with 442 venom beat Man City 3-0 away. (i'm 9th in Prem and City were 3rd)

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@Sith Lord

I would say (P107) P105 EC CC

424 would be p101 CC and 4411 MU P97

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4 часа назад, knap сказал:

@Stremka

I did a quick back to back test comparing holiday to playing the game, and playing the game is the better option

I'm agree with you. But I can't do another test (p&p or IR) on work 😀

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@Stremka

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With P&P IR (no match plan) should give the same results long term as playing games. The assumption is that the AI change/react in same way to how the game is proceeding

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Posted (edited)

I know before I ask, it depends on the players, but what is the most effective formation in this match engine, formation in general - not specific tactic.

 

I'm using Venom 442 & Holy Ghost flat 451, in 2025 with a team that has won the last 2 Champions leagues, but can't quite get the Premier League win.

 

 

 

Edited by mrbluejay
Clarity

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2 minutes ago, knap said:

@mrbluejay

Basically 442s and variations using WBs and MR/L

Thanks @knap I am getting some consistency with the Holyghost flat 451, would you say 442's are better in the long run?

 

I do like the idea of the wide 4312 you posted just a short while ago, would you say thats more suited to elite level teams?

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@mrbluejay

 

It is only Kashmir very attaching tactic that is recommended for Elite teams. Elite teams are really high CA/PA Newgen teams

Most tactics are split between top sub top and under dog.

 

MR/L are better defensive options than AMR/L

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Lost in final UEL won all other cups

in uel we have no chances)

 we lost with fight)))

 

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3 minutes ago, knap said:

@Duggy95

Most popular is KASHMIR 433 MU P111 ELITE

is this the same tactic as FM20.4.1KASHMIRKnap2323P108CC because i loaded them both and it seems so just different names

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@Duggy95

I changed the SPs for P110, subsequent to that I added MM but then took some of the MM off for the Celtic 200+ goals run.

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@Stremka

If really up against it try MM per the guide, and maybe oi their key attavking player

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1 минуту назад, knap сказал:

@Stremka

If really up against it try MM per the guide, and maybe oi their key attavking player

Who is my marking player in 40892028_!!!FM20.4.0-4231KnapPar1s-ParisienneWalkwaysSKEWWSSVOL2P108EC?

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@Stremka

 

With a 4231 I use the AM to pick up AI DM

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3 hours ago, knap said:

@mrbluejay

 

It is only Kashmir very attaching tactic that is recommended for Elite teams. Elite teams are really high CA/PA Newgen teams

Most tactics are split between top sub top and under dog.

 

MR/L are better defensive options than AMR/L

What have you found with 4411's in general?

 

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@mrbluejay

4411s work well and are same shape in play as a 4231.

However, the top tactic is the one above which is again really a 4411/4231.

 

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@mrbluejay

Yeap. They are tested over 164 games and that tactic is current leader

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1 minute ago, knap said:

@mrbluejay

Yeap. They are tested over 164 games and that tactic is current leader

Cheers, thank you.

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Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, Scottish said:

 

This tactic here is sensational, just won the treble with Galatasaray in first season.

This bang average squad won the Champions League

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FM 20.4/1

FIRE & WATER VOL 2 41311 P108 EC CC

!FM20.4.1FIRE&WATERKnapVOL241311P108ECCC.fmf 45.47 kB · 362 downloads

 

Anyway someone could post PI’s of this tactic? Playing on touch

Edited by Chuckybrewster99

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Knap

 

Can you make some tactics with 3 CBs at the back? 352 or 343 maybe?

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Posted (edited)
  • FM 20.4 and 20.3 me 2040  Tactics  (includes FM 20.2 Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4)

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

FOR SUS AT END OF GAME TRY - REGROUP AND HOLD SHAPE

 

ROBER GUIDE TO CLUB SET UP 

New_Game_2 (1).pdf 322.53 kB · 27 downloads

 

 

ROBER GUIDE TO MARKING

 

 

FULL GUIDE ON FM SCOUT

 

 

 

FULL TRAINING INFPRMATION ON FM SCOUT INCLUDING HOW TO SET UP AND ATTRIBUTE IMPROVEMENTS
 
 

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RDF TWEAKS

 

 

 

CROSSING CONSIDERATIONS

 

 

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

FRENCH UNDERDOG TESTS

 

 

C

SHOuTS

Demand More when we are winning by 1 goal.

Show Some Passion when we are back at score.

Praise when winning 2 or more goals.

--

MRr Hough recommended shouts

Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals

Edited by knap

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@Bakiano

 

Just sort the formation column and pick a 3 at back formation. 343 IF may be best

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Posted (edited)

:) Working on releasing the tweak alongside training set up...will take a little time to write up :)

First season double with Southampton. Almost treble but lost in FA Cup Final

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Holiday tests with Bournemouth (no signings, just holiday)

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Edited by RDF Tactics

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1 hour ago, knap said:

@Bakiano

 

Just sort the formation column and pick a 3 at back formation. 343 IF may be best

Thanks!

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BEOWULF 442 W AF POSITIVE P103 ALL CUPS

REVIEW TIs PIs SPs

 

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@Chuckybrewster99

You will find TI s PIs SPs with Reviews

This is a FIRE & Water review which will give a lot of detail

 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

:) Working on releasing the tweak alongside training set up...will take a little time to write up :)

First season double with Southampton. Almost treble but lost in FA Cup Final

20200620103647_1.thumb.jpg.7a7f110bb7aeb9fda8a03ad2eee61f88.jpg20200620103707_1.thumb.jpg.90be551b4163c6dbd771e95ccfc06c17.jpg20200620103427_1.thumb.jpg.bda61bcf2479b706f32eacd8095dbb2c.jpg20200620084726_1.thumb.jpg.0bccb365b71664836fb8b41d2855d815.jpg20200620103905_1.thumb.jpg.e268de6c8b72c485ee41a38a414b0b89.jpg20200620103912_1.thumb.jpg.3f6f332cd77d19bd38c24d5fade4265e.jpg20200620103922_1.thumb.jpg.30d9c27878c0c1cc11b1f98760ecf8fe.jpg

Holiday tests with Bournemouth (no signings, just holiday)

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Looks impressive! You can't just tease though my dude :D 

 

Found it in Discord

Edited by widowmaker-

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Original PARISIENNE SKEWED

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Just started a new season with Brighton.Sold around 15 players and bought around 15 players as well to suit the tactics and the pressing style that I was going to try.Before this season the best position  I could get in a proper save was 7th .

 

Few things that I tried for the first time in this season .

1) Let my assistant took full control of the training(general and individual).Pick someone who's tactical style matches yours if possible and who is good in tactical .Here is mine .

2) I used the attached tactics as my base tactics and made few changes to it like changing the striker to PF.Changed the mentality to balanced .Updated the set pieces.Changed wing backs to fullbacks .Changed wingers to support .

3) For the first time I used OI's in hard matches .I would go to team analyst report and see what players were making most of the key passes ,usually its the midfielders.I would use OI's on them like the screenshot posted.I know some will argue that OIs pull players out of there positions and the tactics shape isn't the same and it leaves gaps.But I know my weaker team is no match for the big clubs if i play  like normal MM there deeper player.So far I have completely shut down city united arsenal and Chelsea using them .

4) Few other changes I make during game are .Change width of defending if I am playing teams like liverpool who loves using there DL DR a lot in attacking to counter some of there crossing.Take away p[lay from back and work ball into box if losing .Take away pass into space ,run at defenders if winning in the last 20 min along with drop LOE and DL to one notch down in last 20 min if winning.

This is how my table looks like in December. 

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20200620092302_1.jpg

20200620090624_1.jpg

20200620092737_1.jpg

FM20.4.1FireandWaterVOL24321OXP103EC_1.fmf 41221 tweak.fmf

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il y a 10 minutes, alex1234 a dit :

Just started a new season with Brighton.Sold around 15 players and bought around 15 players as well to suit the tactics and the pressing style that I was going to try.Before this season the best position  I could get in a proper save was 7th .

 

Few things that I tried for the first time in this season .

1) Let my assistant took full control of the training(general and individual).Pick someone who's tactical style matches yours if possible and who is good in tactical .Here is mine .

2) I used the attached tactics as my base tactics and made few changes to it like changing the striker to PF.Changed the mentality to balanced .Updated the set pieces.Changed wing backs to fullbacks .Changed wingers to support .

3) For the first time I used OI's in hard matches .I would go to team analyst report and see what players were making most of the key passes ,usually its the midfielders.I would use OI's on them like the screenshot posted.I know some will argue that OIs pull players out of there positions and the tactics shape isn't the same and it leaves gaps.But I know my weaker team is no match for the big clubs if i play  like normal MM there deeper player.So far I have completely shut down city united arsenal and Chelsea using them .

4) Few other changes I make during game are .Change width of defending if I am playing teams like liverpool who loves using there DL DR a lot in attacking to counter some of there crossing.Take away p[lay from back and work ball into box if losing .Take away pass into space ,run at defenders if winning in the last 20 min along with drop LOE and DL to one notch down in last 20 min if winning.

This is how my table looks like in December. 

20200620091136_1.jpg

20200620092302_1.jpg

20200620090624_1.jpg

20200620092737_1.jpg

FM20.4.1FireandWaterVOL24321OXP103EC_1.fmf 45 Ko · 2 downloads 41221 tweak.fmf 45 Ko · 1 download

Hello, wich skin is this one?

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8 minutes ago, slb4ever said:

Hello, wich skin is this one?

Its the Champions league skin.

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il y a 19 minutes, alex1234 a dit :

Its the Champions league skin.

Where can i get it? Thank you

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1 minute ago, slb4ever said:

Where can i get it? Thank you

It was a paid only skin uploaded by a guy ,but a lot of backlash from people made him took it down

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