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26 minutes ago, knap said:

@Spizzle

The latest 433 has a good split with a GD of 112

Have you an ID number for that or a link please mate !?

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Em 03/05/2020 em 14:33, knap disse:

@futsal_17

 

MISSISSIPPI and try man marking AI DM or lowest MC.

Hi. Come here to give feedback of the last months using Mississippi and pressure one lowest MC/DM of AI.

12 games for Liga and 8W, 3D and 1L but - and more important - only 10 goals conceded. That was the main concern and now the team is more solid and balanced like I inquire you for. Thanks! Great job! :)

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Dear Knap, in prder to have a more solid team with Fire and Water I want to tweak your tactic with man marking but are only the AMC concerned or all the team ? If it is all the time where can I select it please ?

Thanks for your feedback

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Afternoon All

Any got any advice for dealing with elite teams when you are underdogs?  Playing PSG with my Toulouse team is bordering on the ridiculous!

My players wont tackle but when they do it is ALWAYS a foul.  Neymar and Mbappe in particular just run through or behind my defence for fun...

I have tried the some of the advice of man marking the DLP and lower the defensive line but seems to make zero difference.  Starting to think it is just something built into the game...

 

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KASHMIR 433 MM ID 1522

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@mcallais

 

ID 1423 MISSISSIPPI has man marking set up a on DR DL DM AMC.

However you may have to be pro active dr dl work better with an attacking WB. The AI ay not use a DM or AMC.However you can take them off if not needed.

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@Sith Lord

 

PSG are troubles for Lpool.. May be worth trying a SUS Tactic

 

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Thanks for your feedback Knap. But sorry I did not understand what you said about AI with AMC aor DM. Also sorry, I did not understand at all your advice with Dr and DL. Can you please explain a bit more...thanks

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3 minutes ago, knap said:

@Sith Lord

 

PSG are troubles for Lpool.. May be worth trying a SUS Tactic

 

Like Mississippi?  I am using Fire & Water 4321, which probably a bit suicidal but it at least has a go at them.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, knap said:

@sebel Parisienne 4231 all cups 20.3 is usually recommended

Many thanks - is it this one? : 

Otherwise, which one would you recommend between !!!!FM20.4.0TeaforOneUroKnap4231P100ECCC.fmf and 3434513_!!!!!FM20.4.1TeaforOneAM4231P101ECCC.fmf ?

Thanks again ;)

Edited by sebel

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1 hour ago, knas said:

Tactic ?

FM20.4.1BEOWULF442KnapP104ECFA

it's on page 191

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Using Beowulf 424 how would man marking happen in this any help appreciated 

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11 hours ago, Crusho79bv said:

I tried all the 20.4.1 versions of 4-3-3, they work with big teams, small teams not so much.

I suggest a good old school 451, or 442 & 4321

Agreed. I did try this with my non-league team when my wingers were poached by other clubs and, even though we were favourites for the title it didn't really work.
My WBs simply weren't good/fit enough to make a success of it.

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The Kashmir overload tactics aren't great at this level either, for the same reason. Well, I say that but we did score loads with it, just conceded stupid goals and had to sub both my WBs every game, too knackered.

The 4-1-2-3 DM WB formations listed here 20200504180828_1.thumb.jpg.69cf04b02d9f6e36d965e20fbc216ffa.jpg

20200504181216_1.thumb.jpg.aff12d9c6ad616a3761e640d3b0e283b.jpg Having to use subs for both WBs too often

I have used numerous formations over the 4 seasons of promotions so far and my most successful ones have been 4-4-2, 4-3-1-2 & 4-5-1/4-3-2-1.

Specifically these:
Venom & Faith 442

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Fire 4-5-1/4-3-2-1
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And what has proved to be the best and most consistent for me, Tea 4312, over all 4 different seasons
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Edited by Earnie is God!

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@knap and/or others:

Which TEA FOR ONE tactic would you recommend when 0-0 ? I'm using FM20.3.0TeaforOneAM4231P105ALLCUPS.fmf  with a top team and would need a very offensive version.
Thanks ;)

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25 minutes ago, Evo1987 said:

Using Beowulf 424 how would man marking happen in this any help appreciated 

Use your pressing forward to do the marking. If your particular Wulf tactic doesn't use a PF, then just change one of them to a PF.
Simples

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@knap

I'm groundsharing next season as our stadium isn't big enough. Capacity is great but it's a very short pitch and, as the pitch isn't ours, I won't be allowed to change the dimensions. It's almost square!

Old Pitch 20200504185637_1.thumb.jpg.e0beead015f939dbbe937330d5788608.jpg

New Pitch 20200504030907_1.thumb.jpg.7c34a0e3e395f24e32c0ee9598cdb420.jpg

As I mentioned a few posts above, I've been using Tea 4312 to great effect for 4 seasons now but that was on our 105m x 68m standard pitch, not this 90m x 85m one.
Any recommendations for tactics to suit this shorter, wider pitch better?
Thanks

Edited by Earnie is God!

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4 minutes ago, Earnie is God! said:

It's almost square!

My god that looks weird! :D

I don't know what you have tried before?

RDF trusts the fire and water p103, I like the Missisippi p109 and add MM.

Problem is that level most tactics are gonna tire your players as they are all gegenpressing..

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Dear Knapp:

Which of your current masterpieces tactics do you regard as the most promising if I was to ask you to pick say top 5 of them?

 

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1 minute ago, magicnutt said:

Which of your current masterpieces tactics do you regard as the most promising if I was to ask you to pick say top 5 of them?

I think he already answered this further back if you search :)

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1 minute ago, Rober82 said:

I think he already answered this further back if you search :)

can you quote me the answer or at least tell me which page of the 243 pages on this thread this was answered :) ?

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Does anyone has the right ID or direct link for Mississipi or Fire and Water with man marking ?

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11 minutes ago, magicnutt said:

can you quote me the answer or at least tell me which page of the 243 pages on this thread this was answered :) ?

 

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20 minutes ago, Rober82 said:

My god that looks weird! :D

I don't know what you have tried before?

RDF trusts the fire and water p103, I like the Missisippi p109 and add MM.

Problem is that level most tactics are gonna tire your players as they are all gegenpressing..

I've not tried anything on this kind of pitch before.
A few posts above the one you quoted is my other post about which tactics I've used on our standard pitch over 4 seasons.
I guess I'm asking knap if there are certain tactics of his that suit wider pitches more. I wouldn't know as I've not had to use one before.

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9 minutes ago, magicnutt said:

can you quote me the answer or at least tell me which page of the 243 pages on this thread this was answered :) ?

Wish I could man :D

I would say it was
FM20.4.1FireandWaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf, FM20.4.1KnapKashmir41221VOL6P103ECCTHP9.fmf, Bowulf 442 105EC,  FM20.4.0FireandWater4132P103ECFA.fmf, and FM20.4.1VenomFaith442KnapVOL3P109FACC.fmf.

That was maybe 10 days ago, so would maybe add the new missisippi p109 to it.

That's six!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1MississippiKnapVOL34321OXP109ECCC.fmf

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1 minute ago, Rober82 said:

Wish I could man :D

I would say it was
FM20.4.1FireandWaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf, FM20.4.1KnapKashmir41221VOL6P103ECCTHP9.fmf, Bowulf 442 105EC,  FM20.4.0FireandWater4132P103ECFA.fmf, and FM20.4.1VenomFaith442KnapVOL3P109FACC.fmf.

That was maybe 10 days ago, so would maybe add the new missisippi p109 to it.

That's six!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1MississippiKnapVOL34321OXP109ECCC.fmf 45.22 kB · 0 downloads

Thanks but now I'd like to hear a answer from knapp himself if possible :lol::herman::)

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Any suggestions on a tactic for my palermo side. 

Predicted 19th out of 20 in serie C. No signings. Most players under 18. 

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just to give people a little insight on what happens when MM. My No10 is the one man marking. you can see clearly he's dropping back to follow his man. the shape now looks more like a 4231, so i would recommend that you choose a AM who is also comfortable playing in CM. a little concentration, positioning, teamwork and work rate is a bonus! 

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@grozemaatjuh

Rober and RDF have been working hard to introduce tweaks with man marking to improve your chances of winning.

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4 hours ago, Earnie is God! said:

@knap

I'm groundsharing next season as our stadium isn't big enough. Capacity is great but it's a very short pitch and, as the pitch isn't ours, I won't be allowed to change the dimensions. It's almost square!

Old Pitch 20200504185637_1.thumb.jpg.e0beead015f939dbbe937330d5788608.jpg

New Pitch 20200504030907_1.thumb.jpg.7c34a0e3e395f24e32c0ee9598cdb420.jpg

As I mentioned a few posts above, I've been using Tea 4312 to great effect for 4 seasons now but that was on our 105m x 68m standard pitch, not this 90m x 85m one.
Any recommendations for tactics to suit this shorter, wider pitch better?
Thanks

Raise a bug in bugs forum.

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Some of the new tactics still have low crosses , so i take it floated crosses was never proved to be better or not ? 

Anyone??

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@marksmithlfc1234

Floated crosses with my test sides have so far not been the optimum option.

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9 hours ago, knap said:

@grozemaatjuh

Rober and RDF have been working hard to introduce tweaks with man marking to improve your chances of winning.

alright thanks, and which position to mm? opposing cvm or cam or something?

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Guys, sorry to be persistent: which TEA FOR ONE tactic would you recommend when 0-0 ?
I'm using FM20.3.0TeaforOneAM4231P105ALLCUPS  with a top team and would need a very offensive version.

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Hi there, i'm playing as Dortmund but have Salah, Sancho and Haaland. Keep missing out to my mates Bayern on goal difference (2 seasons back to back haha!) He he has Lautaro Martinez, Mbappe etc. I want to use a different 4-2-3-1 tactic. Is FM2.4.0 FIRE AND WATER 4231 P103 EC a good one to start on? I'm playing on 20.4.1 atm. Cheers @knap tactics are always the best!

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@sebel

I would try the high scoring tactics on google docs KASKMIR 433 BEOWULF 424 oR fir 4312

Allso can try tempo drop mentality drop. both trying to look after ball to create opening.

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3 minutes ago, knap said:

@sebel

I would try the high scoring tactics on google docs KASKMIR 433 BEOWULF 424 oR fir 4312

Allso can try tempo drop mentality drop. both trying to look after ball to create opening.

@knap Many thanks! Can you please share these tactics ID numbers (re-Google doc)? Cheers ;)

Edited by sebel

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@grozemaatjuh

 

There is a guide by Rober in google docs post.

You do need to watch game and AI formations.

With Lpool they will start 451 so you mark DM. If losing Lpool with use a 4231 eith 2 DMs, so you will need to mark lowest DM Left.

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@sebel

They are identified in google docs high scoring, in Recommenation column

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1 minute ago, knap said:

@sebel

They are identified in google docs high scoring, in Recommenation column

@knap Many thanks for that!!!

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Wow first season with salford city using the tea for one p103

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Having a lot of success with a BEOWULF tactic on my Rangers save.

 

However, I am struggling to get past the round of 16 in the Champions League against the giants.

 

Sorry if its been covered before but can anyone recommend a tactic that might suit these types of games?

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