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MU with MM 433

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2 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

 

Knap tactic does it again! 1st season Champions and EL winners. CRAZY results man. used Fire and Water. NO TWEAKS! (only floated crosses) used Man Marking every game. Used Instant result every game

Key Man - Raul Jimenez (38 goals 45 starts)

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MAN MARKING IS KEY!!!

this screen, i can see times lined up last match. i can see No.38 (Longstaff) is the deep midfielder on the right side so i used my left AM to mark him...I also see the LB No.28 (Rose) is very advanced so i used my RM to man mark him too...aim is to cut off their attacking supply

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RESULTS:

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PLAYER DEVELOPMENT USING MY TRAINING GUIDE:

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Great results mate but has it been tested without the tweaks you did to compare it against the normal tactic with Wolves i dont think there is much difference , Not in my save anyway with them !? i would do the test but it would take me a week to get a season finished , is there anyway for you to test the 2 together ? one with tweaks and original to . ?

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2 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

 

Knap tactic does it again! 1st season Champions and EL winners. CRAZY results man. used Fire and Water. NO TWEAKS! (only floated crosses) used Man Marking every game. Used Instant result every game

Key Man - Raul Jimenez (38 goals 45 starts)

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MAN MARKING IS KEY!!!

this screen, i can see times lined up last match. i can see No.38 (Longstaff) is the deep midfielder on the right side so i used my left AM to mark him...I also see the LB No.28 (Rose) is very advanced so i used my RM to man mark him too...aim is to cut off their attacking supply

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RESULTS:

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PLAYER DEVELOPMENT USING MY TRAINING GUIDE:

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So it's worth to mark deep midfielders and very offensive full back?

and not look if it is a playmaker or not?

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22 minutes ago, knap said:

@Danny648

They are either set up or TIs and Corners, I leave the rest open .

Ok thanks, im using Kashmir 4141, ive noticed the long throws into the box the keeper comes and claims 90% of the time, have the throw ins been set up this way or can i change?

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if your using fire and water with two strikers , does the AM man mark or can one of the strikers as my AM is one my best players and don't want him stuck man marking and not influencing the games???

 

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20 minutes ago, warman1982 said:

if your using fire and water with two strikers , does the AM man mark or can one of the strikers as my AM is one my best players and don't want him stuck man marking and not influencing the games???

If he is a pressing forward he would be ideal. Advanced forwards i would not use.

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Hi knap! If I'm using the new Mississippi tactic, would you recommend that the DM does the man marking? Cheers

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@cfwhittle

I have DM picking up AMC but sure it is best option, but used on last 2 tactics. The MM may be better for weaker teams as with top sides you do not want to tie up your better players,

May also help with weaker formations like 433.

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hace 10 minutos, knap dijo:

@cfwhittle

I have DM picking up AMC but sure it is best option, but used on last 2 tactics. The MM may be better for weaker teams as with top sides you do not want to tie up your better players,

May also help with weaker formations like 433.

Hello Knap. As we are going to need one of our AMCs to man mark the opposition does it change the kind of player we need there? p.e.:more aggresive / better tackler, workrate and so.

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4 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

 

Knap tactic does it again! 1st season Champions and EL winners. CRAZY results man. used Fire and Water. NO TWEAKS! (only floated crosses) used Man Marking every game. Used Instant result every game

Key Man - Raul Jimenez (38 goals 45 starts)

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MAN MARKING IS KEY!!!

this screen, i can see times lined up last match. i can see No.38 (Longstaff) is the deep midfielder on the right side so i used my left AM to mark him...I also see the LB No.28 (Rose) is very advanced so i used my RM to man mark him too...aim is to cut off their attacking supply

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RESULTS:

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PLAYER DEVELOPMENT USING MY TRAINING GUIDE:

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@RDF TacticsWould you use coaches to do all aspects of training as I can employ 16 ??

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@sergiolagartija

In general all attacking players press and tackle as part of tactic. The MM element is just to disrupt supply. AMC marking is more to stop the AI player, but then it is going to be a DM marking..

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so far so good in here. 1st season with Mississipi 4-3-2-1

still figuring it out against top teams in UCL

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2 hours ago, marksmithlfc1234 said:

Great results mate but has it been tested without the tweaks you did to compare it against the normal tactic with Wolves i dont think there is much difference , Not in my save anyway with them !? i would do the test but it would take me a week to get a season finished , is there anyway for you to test the 2 together ? one with tweaks and original to . ?

what do you mean? this test was done without a tweak...all i did was change crosses to float as its recommended to change crossing to suit your players...but its the original tactic, with man marking

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2 hours ago, adlyd90 said:

So it's worth to mark deep midfielders and very offensive full back?

and not look if it is a playmaker or not?

correct. in most cases, deep midfielders are like playmakers even without have the role "playmaker"

if i have a DM in my team, chances are, he will be used a lot for transition from defenders to attackers...the aim is to stop the ball from entering the midfield and onto dangerous players

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1 hour ago, Scruffer23 said:

@RDF TacticsWould you use coaches to do all aspects of training as I can employ 16 ??

i follow @Rober82 advice on coaches...make sure to have a few good personalities...model citizen or model professional with high determination will be great too

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this guys progress is crazy!! i'm not sure i believe when they say "players PA can not change during a game" 

using this guy as my RM and LM with knaps 4321 and doing great. but look at his development in just under 2 seasons. mind blowing stuff

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@knap Which 4141 is most suited to an under-dog in the premiership?

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Random question and I am sure everyone here would be able to answer. Does it matter the ability of the players to play a role, I see lots of screenshots with players having a red half circle for the role in question rather than a green circle.

I want to try the Fire and Water formation but do not have the players for it

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@TA

 

MM indicates basic man marking has been set up. It can be adjusted with different AI formations if you consider beneficial.

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58 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

i follow @Rober82 advice on coaches...make sure to have a few good personalities...model citizen or model professional with high determination will be great too

And I follow @Cadoni advice who said this first :)

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@Icondacarver

Usually as long as green for position, although it is more attributes to play position but even then you can have different types of player playing position. Easiest way to start is AM quick pick and see how they play.

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@Rober82

Covered in great detail in Mentality Matters by Optimus.

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@kristensenalex

Sort tactics by Lpool pts to give tactic potential and pick a tactics that suits team or may look interesting.

I would use Mississippi P109

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KASHMIR 23221 MM with MU

PSG in Euro Final!

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Who can post SS to different opponent tactic and tell what player we have to use man marking please ? I'm confused with this. Thanks

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7 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

 

Knap tactic does it again! 1st season Champions and EL winners. CRAZY results man. used Fire and Water. NO TWEAKS! (only floated crosses) used Man Marking every game. Used Instant result every game

Key Man - Raul Jimenez (38 goals 45 starts)

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MAN MARKING IS KEY!!!

this screen, i can see times lined up last match. i can see No.38 (Longstaff) is the deep midfielder on the right side so i used my left AM to mark him...I also see the LB No.28 (Rose) is very advanced so i used my RM to man mark him too...aim is to cut off their attacking supply

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RESULTS:

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PLAYER DEVELOPMENT USING MY TRAINING GUIDE:

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Do you change the man marking every game 

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20.4.0 Black Echo 4231 P109 working wonders with my Barca regens so far. Instant Result/Full version.

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2 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

i follow @Rober82 advice on coaches...make sure to have a few good personalities...model citizen or model professional with high determination will be great too

@RDF TacticsI have two with model citizen 6 fitness coaches then coaches for other assignments plus myself and my assistant 

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46 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

20.4.0 Black Echo 4231 P109 working wonders with my Barca regens so far. Instant Result/Full version.

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Anyone used this with a Underdog side? 

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1 hour ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

20.4.0 Black Echo 4231 P109 working wonders with my Barca regens so far. Instant Result/Full version.

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Did you use it on positive mentality?

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1 minute ago, Giraffin said:

Did you use it on positive mentality?

Positive Mentality & I changed Crosses to Floated. 

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5 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

what do you mean? this test was done without a tweak...all i did was change crosses to float as its recommended to change crossing to suit your players...but its the original tactic, with man marking

what i was trying to say .....it would be good to see how both tactics compare . 

original tactic V Tweak tactic . 

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Hi knap and friends

I'm playing an online league with family. They all use knap tactics.

I would like to know which 4231 would be best in this situation. We are all mid tier teams.

 

Thanks

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7 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

correct. in most cases, deep midfielders are like playmakers even without have the role "playmaker"

if i have a DM in my team, chances are, he will be used a lot for transition from defenders to attackers...the aim is to stop the ball from entering the midfield and onto dangerous players

@RDF Tacticswhat about if the opponent plays with two mezzalas or a 4-2-3-1?

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Has anyone ever used these tactics in Fantasy Draft mode?  I'm probably tilting, but it feels/seems like the Draft match engine is completely different from the regular game.  I'm struggling to get any of them to work :-(

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@redmak

Either none, set up in tactics, or follow how to set up summary by Rober(RDF) in google docs post

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^ This is the Game Status screen, there's no ME number

 

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@Lobster123

I would try uro tweak and Par1s recommends Parisienne all cups.

What are the rest using and let me know how every body gets on at end of season.

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Whats the best 4141 or 4411 tactic at the moment . New save with Newcastle . Need an away tactic? My others are too attacking for them 

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