knap Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 FM 20.4.1 ARGUS 3430IF VOL 2 P103 CC !!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1ARGUSknap3430IFVOL2P103CC.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 @danjpalmer1984 Work ball is on. The problem tends to be options and the AI man marking your players leaving few options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjpalmer1984 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 57 minutes ago, knap said: @danjpalmer1984 Work ball is on. The problem tends to be options and the AI man marking your players leaving few options. Thanks @knap appreciate the explanation! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 hours ago, jonnysnipe said: Going back through seems to be Fire and Water 4312 4.0 144 goals scored - In fact Kashmir 148 scored Kashmir scored 172 in one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
#hashtagJX Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 @RDF Tactics Hey, i saw you post with regards to your Bresica save which is tearing Serie A apart. You use the same tactics for home and away and just tweak the instruction for tough away games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 13 hours ago, radetzky said: Have you played with Instant results? CUP games up to semi-final because i don`t care about the cup Some LEAGUE games against the poor teams like Brescia, SPAL, Verona, Parma, Cagliari... OI to ass man Training: Against poor teams i go with Attacking and Tactical training one week before the game Against good teams i go with Defending/Balanced 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, #hashtagJX said: @RDF Tactics Hey, i saw you post with regards to your Bresica save which is tearing Serie A apart. You use the same tactics for home and away and just tweak the instruction for tough away games? yes! that exactly. bare in mind we had a little blip. Jan came and Balotelli wanted a new contract i couldn't afford and Tonali wanted to go to a bigger club...when the window shut, Tonali was happy to stay but Balotelli (a team leader) is still unhappy so im getting mixed results right now haha very frustrating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 9 hours ago, danjpalmer1984 said: @knap @RDF Tactics Any experimenting with CBs on Shoot Less Often? I started checking out the sources of my shots and sometimes my CBs are having 15+ combined attempts. I'm sure headers are included BUT looking at the shot map it's normally half at least from outside the box! i've never noticed that....thing is, that can be down to the mentality on attacking. People must not forget, not all the time your players will follow your PI instruction closely because of team instructions/mentality. example, i always have my DLP to pass shorter, generally he will do this. but as the mentality is attacking, i will have players making runs off the ball and that almost forces my DLP to play the more risky pass (also because its a default PI) but pass shorter and play risky passes can give a mix....a CB with shoot less often doesn't mean he will not shoot, most times he will look to hold on to it and look for a pass or dribble, but as you are on attacking, he will shoot more than normally if in the position. so now, i'm thinking, would a CB that has "stay back at all times" and "looks for pass rather than shoot" be good for these tactics? hmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanders81 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: i've never noticed that....thing is, that can be down to the mentality on attacking. People must not forget, not all the time your players will follow your PI instruction closely because of team instructions/mentality. example, i always have my DLP to pass shorter, generally he will do this. but as the mentality is attacking, i will have players making runs off the ball and that almost forces my DLP to play the more risky pass (also because its a default PI) but pass shorter and play risky passes can give a mix....a CB with shoot less often doesn't mean he will not shoot, most times he will look to hold on to it and look for a pass or dribble, but as you are on attacking, he will shoot more than normally if in the position. so now, i'm thinking, would a CB that has "stay back at all times" and "looks for pass rather than shoot" be good for these tactics? hmmm do you mean as player traits ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 FM 20.4.1 ARGUS 42131 VOL 3 WH P103 !!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1ARGUSknap32131IFVOL3WHP103.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Sanders81 said: do you mean as player traits ? yeah maybe "stay back at all times" and "look for pass rather than shot" will reduce the number...but when are they shooting? is it after a set piece or during your teams build up? it could be the case of a set piece, the ball comes outside the area, and lands to your player, and from there, i think most players will shoot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
#hashtagJX Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, RDF Tactics said: yes! that exactly. bare in mind we had a little blip. Jan came and Balotelli wanted a new contract i couldn't afford and Tonali wanted to go to a bigger club...when the window shut, Tonali was happy to stay but Balotelli (a team leader) is still unhappy so im getting mixed results right now haha very frustrating Interesting, I believe the team hierarchy plays a part? havent got far in FM20, but in FM19 i got rid alot of deadwoord players from my squad who happened to be highly influential player and they affected the my team for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco_smit89 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 On 18/03/2020 at 20:16, knap said: FM 20.4.0 BLACK ECHO 4321 OXFORD P105 ALL CUPS !!!!FM20.4.0BlackEcho4321OXknapP105ALLCUPS.fmf 45.07 kB · 450 downloads This tactic is giving me crazy results... Even for the youth team that is using the same tactic. Sorry for Dutch language settings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Okay. so i decided to look more into "floated crosses" and in to "opposition instructions" and so far, these are some results of it. Against both Manchester teams, my goals came from set piece and through passes. using Fire and Water 4321 but the 20.4.0 version OI - so far, i identify the key man and use the OI on him. here, Grealish is a very good dribbler so my OI was set tackling to normal. My TI is tackling hard and he can ride these challenges. Here is Joao Pedro, his player trait was "does not dive into tackles", he has been their key player so i put tackle on hard on his OI Floated crosses - Match against West Ham - as you can see, all 3 goals came from crosses, 1 mentioned floated cross, but my crosses were going far post to the free man Heres my report against Brighton, who just like West Ham, played 5 at the back, so maybe we are exploiting that. Against Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 @RDF Tactics I have a Spurs save so will have a lokk later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, knap said: @RDF Tactics I have a Spurs save so will have a lokk later my wide midfielders score most the goals from far post crosses. my full backs and wide midfielders get the assist from it...i removed my wide players from set pieces so they don't get assists that way best crossing completed and completion ration, created most chances, best shot on target ratio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
godofnoobs Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: my wide midfielders score most the goals from far post crosses. my full backs and wide midfielders get the assist from it...i removed my wide players from set pieces so they don't get assists that way best crossing completed and completion ration, created most chances, best shot on target ratio new fav tactic or what? @RDF Tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 **** this Match Engine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, godofnoobs said: new fav tactic or what? @RDF Tactics i can't live without it haha....honestly bro, i don't see me using another tactic this year of FM...maybe 4312 but with the same instructions lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 @RDF Tactics @knap I am determined to get a save working with Toulouse but can't seem to get going. Do either of you have a stand out underdog tactic? They are predicted to finish 18th but they have some good younger players so they have potential. If I can get a solid tactic I think I can get going with better in-game management and more attention to training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 @Sith Lord The French on line game used Toulouse and it was an Oxford tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, knap said: @Sith Lord The French on line game used Toulouse and it was an Oxford tactic I wonderd about that but they do not really have any natural AM's. Clearly it works regardless. Maybe I am too hung up on players "natural" positions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Sutton Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Sith Lord said: @RDF Tactics @knap I am determined to get a save working with Toulouse but can't seem to get going. Do either of you have a stand out underdog tactic? They are predicted to finish 18th but they have some good younger players so they have potential. If I can get a solid tactic I think I can get going with better in-game management and more attention to training. !!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULFKnapTMPP102ALLCUPS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, Adam Sutton said: !!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULFKnapTMPP102ALLCUPS A 442 would suit more of the players. Have you had much sucess with it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanus Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 @RDF Tactics Would you kindly link the tactic up? Can't seem to find it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyt11 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Sorry to jump on the late bandwagon guys. Just wondered can anyone recommend a tactic for Man United. I tried to 442 Venom but just been thrashed 4-1 away to Bournmouth. Just cant seem to defend. Not sure whether to change or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 @RDF Tactics can you share the 4312 please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Volcanus said: @RDF Tactics Would you kindly link the tactic up? Can't seem to find it. i put my crossing on floated 1951257932_!!!!FM20.4.0FireandWater4321OXP101ECCC.fmf 1 minute ago, andre62 said: @RDF Tactics can you share the 4312 please? 35499664_!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1FireandWaterVOL24312P101EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: i put my crossing on floated 1951257932_!!!!FM20.4.0FireandWater4321OXP101ECCC.fmf 45.24 kB · 2 downloads 35499664_!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1FireandWaterVOL24312P101EC.fmf 45.4 kB · 2 downloads Whats the difference with floated crosses then ?? Also i won the League with Spurs using 4312 !! fire and water !! Edited April 21, 2020 by marksmithlfc1234 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, marksmithlfc1234 said: Whats the difference with floated crosses then ?? Also i won the League with Spurs using 4312 !! fire and water !! i guess you create different chances. I'm not implying this is more effective than original. but it creates different chances, so you may have different types of players better for different situations. Low crosses will still work with Tottenham, with 2 AMs with good off the ball and ST with good off the ball i too have won the league using low crosses, but i'm giving people different alternatives that can work just as well. Specially before they start saying the tactic doesn't work, without trying out things to make it work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilmz88 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: i guess you create different chances. I'm not implying this is more effective than original. but it creates different chances, so you may have different types of players better for different situations. Low crosses will still work with Tottenham, with 2 AMs with good off the ball and ST with good off the ball i too have won the league using low crosses, but i'm giving people different alternatives that can work just as well. Specially before they start saying the tactic doesn't work, without trying out things to make it work what about if we just put it on mixed then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, hilmz88 said: what about if we just put it on mixed then ? you should have good crossers who make good decisions...at the moment i'm Tottenham and don't have the best crossers. Asking them to do something very technical might not work. Also i have Kane, not the best acceleration so don't want players whipping crosses if he can't react to it quick enough. that is my theory 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 @RDF Tactics Did you post final Spurs tavle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickZombie Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Hey @RDF Tactics what's made you go back go the 20.4.0 version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Would be nice to see a few people post some results tactics with teams outside the top 4 and especially in premiere league. I have just started a leeds utd save in the 3rd season after winning the league with spurs . Going to use the 4321fireandwater20.4.1 And 4312 and see gow it goes. LEEDS are predicted to finish 17th having stayed up first season and i changed crosses to floated crosses and got in all 15+Fitness coaches and specific training as advised from.before .......wish me Luck 🤣🤞 Edited April 21, 2020 by marksmithlfc1234 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, knap said: @RDF Tactics Did you post final Spurs tavle? i'm currently playing the file...might take me a while because i'm playing every game so people can stop asking you about Instant Result lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, QuickZombie said: Hey @RDF Tactics what's made you go back go the 20.4.0 version? the PIs. i love the fact it has less PIs, i feel in more control when i tweak a TI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 @snak3yjake I will have a look tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 how can you get back to 20.4.0 version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
widowmaker- Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, adlyd90 said: how can you get back to 20.4.0 version? You can't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 Iy is just the version that I made the tactic on not the ME 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 I just won PL with Spurs with last years BEOWULF 442 P106 ALL CUPS 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 FM 20.4.1 ARGUS 41221 AK IF VOL 3 WHIPPED P101 FA CC !!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1ARGUSknap41221AFIFVOL3WHP101FACC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 using OI. Sigurdsson had trait of "does not dive into tackles" so i put tacking hard on him. Delph had "dwells on ball" so closing down always on him Sigurdsson played poorly. Delph got subbed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie2 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 hi , can anyone tell me why in the second year the tactic with a stronger team no longer works? first year i used Fire 4321 and went well. I arrived 2 place with newcastle in the second year , i bought better players but the tactic doesn't work anymore do you have any tips for me? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 with the use of OIs of course, no saving and loading or editors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, jamie2 said: hi , can anyone tell me why in the second year the tactic with a stronger team no longer works? first year i used Fire 4321 and went well. I arrived 2 place with newcastle in the second year , i bought better players but the tactic doesn't work anymore do you have any tips for me? thanks could you post your team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 @RDF Tactics Which OIs are you using Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Just now, knap said: @RDF Tactics Which OIs are you using at the moment it varies. most i look for in opponents is bad traits, like "does not dive into tackles" or "dwells on ball"...most teams won't have that so then i look for the creative player, so like Grealish, good dribbler and flair so i put tackle on "normal". Mac Allister for brighton was their creative player, he has "tries killer ball" and "shoot from distance" as player trait but bravery was on 10 so i put pressing on "always" and tackle "hard" the LFC match i had OI on Mane, had tackle "normal", he was their highest AVG rated player. City match i had tackle "normal" on Sterling, simply because of his dribbling and pace don't really know the effect its having, if any at all but the only player thats had a good match is Mane, but not much anyone can do about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Here, i noticed Meyer and Townsend have most assists sign next to their name...i figured there weak posts. Meyer has low Bravery, Determination, Flair and Balance. as he's their key man in the middle, i have pressing "always". Townsend has "moves ball to left football before dribble" so i put "show on to right foot" it was Meyer who passed the ball to Townsend and he lost the ball, we countered and scored within 1st 15mins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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