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@RDF Tactics

When you have an abundance of good young prospects at the age range of 17-20, would it be better to train them in your club and benefit from your great Individual training style and use them on U18 or U23 or loan them out to lower division clubs in order to get play time?

Do you have a specific target number of attributes until you start focusing on another attribute set? For example, upon reaching 15 Anticipation on a striker, would it be better to switch to say, Passing in order to improve that?

Lastly do you guys assign assman to make mentoring groups?

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What tactic to use with Red Star Belgrade, one of top teams in league but underdog in EL and CL? 

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thais type of training 6 months in turning all my average german defenders  (starts are going from 2 starts potential now 4 to 5 ) into 40 mill assests

 

i was getting bored of my long save but now i have a new goal

 

have a full youth first 11 and bin transfers off

 

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even the really average 0nes im getting bids from other german clubs  of 20-40 mill (must be something to do with home grown)

 

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its like a cash cow training base cheers @RDF Tactics mate!!

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  • FM 20.4 and 20.3 me 2040  Tactics  (includes FM 20.2 Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4)

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

FOR SUS AT END OF GAME TRY - REGROUP AND HOLD SHAPE

 

ROBER GUIDE TO CLUB SET UP 

1826670185_NewGame.pdf 338.59 kB · 259 downloads

RDF TRAINING

Summary by Rober

1. Get a lot of great fitness coaches, I have six. Three on each category. Put yourself and ass man at normal training categories, add 2 gk coaches for gk. If still room, find some normal coaches with model citizen personality.

2. Instead of training in position, add double intensity on individual training. Then select area which is lacking, f ex final third, that trains decisions and composure like shown here. These will increase very much. I think Almada started with 10 and 13, so +2 and still only 7months of season played.

3. This can be automated under rest in training tab. Select automation on all in individual, then they change according to his fitness levels to protect from training to hard when low fitness after matches, and get injuries.

4. If coaches have Model citizen personalities, you will also have increase in determination for many players. But not always so easy to find.

5. With this we recommend letting ass. man. handling normal training, and not combining this with other schedules, as we have hired may fitness coaches and have just you and ass man on normal categories.
 
 
 
 
MAIN RDF DEVELOPMENT THREAD

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RDF TWEAKS

 

 

CROSSING CONSIDERATIONS

 

 

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

FRENCH UNDERDOG TESTS

 

 

 

 

RECOMMENDED TRAINING SCHEDULES

 

 

C

SHOuTS

Demand More when we are winning by 1 goal.

Show Some Passion when we are back at score.

Praise when winning 2 or more goals.

--

FA Trophy and if we make League 2 promotion, who knows.

 

MRr Hough recommended shouts

Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals

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4 minutes ago, Philbram said:

thais type of training 6 months in turning all my average german defenders  (starts are going from 2 starts potential now 4 to 5 ) into 40 mill assests

 

i was getting bored of my long save but now i have a new goal

 

have a full youth first 11 and bin transfers off

 

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even the really average 0nes im getting bids from other german clubs  of 20-40 mill (must be something to do with home grown)

 

image.thumb.png.97c91c522af2192070b4b4e7ae62ee12.png

 

its like a cash cow training base cheers @RDF Tactics mate!!

Can you post a screenshot of what you’ve done please bud 

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11 ore fa, lol33 ha scritto:

AMAZING

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With defaul tactic have you managed to trash 5-1 away both Barca and Real Madrid?

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16 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said:

Can you post a screenshot of what you’ve done please bud 

 

 

just followed the guide

 

sacked off some coaches got in fitness ones, im trying even more fitness ones now just going to see if it has a negative affect in other areas hope not

 

left assistant to run training but i click every young player leave them in the natural roles, but change to double intensity (no work if they there are under fitness of 70 ? iirc)

 

get them to foucs on a new thing like shooting or arieal ability depending on the player of course

 

and leave them be

 

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im not sure if this is right best ask @RDF Tactics as im set as doing individual but it makes sense to me

 

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this is a wonder kid but more excited by the average youth players this system is turning my germans into internationals

 

 

hope that helps (so get loads of fitness coaches, get your players doing double, and give them something extra to work on not position

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4 minutes ago, Philbram said:

 

 

just followed the guide

 

sacked off some coaches got in fitness ones, im trying even more fitness ones now just going to see if it has a negative affect in other areas hope not

 

left assistant to run training but i click every young player leave them in the natural roles, but change to double intensity (no work if they there are under fitness of 70 ? iirc)

 

get them to foucs on a new thing like shooting or arieal ability depending on the player of course

 

and leave them be

 

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im not sure if this is right best ask @RDF Tactics as im set as doing individual but it makes sense to me

 

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this is a wonder kid but more excited by the average youth players this system is turning my germans into internationals

 

 

hope that helps (so get loads of fitness coaches, get your players doing double, and give them something extra to work on not position

oh wow...whats his injury record and match performance like too? 

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54 minutes ago, tagari said:

@RDF Tactics

When you have an abundance of good young prospects at the age range of 17-20, would it be better to train them in your club and benefit from your great Individual training style and use them on U18 or U23 or loan them out to lower division clubs in order to get play time?

Do you have a specific target number of attributes until you start focusing on another attribute set? For example, upon reaching 15 Anticipation on a striker, would it be better to switch to say, Passing in order to improve that?

Lastly do you guys assign assman to make mentoring groups?

i've stopped loaning players out in FM20, i dont see no use unless you can loan to someone playing same level as you but giving them first team...as long as your youth facilities and coaches are good, they should be fine....problem is, loaning them out to other teams might stall their development for many reasons...playing bad, playing under bad coaches/manager, training with the wrong influential players could influence him to pick up bad traits/personality 

FM20, they have over done it in training, in terms of picking up traits and personality.

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only played him a few times keeping him cotton wool

 

only because i have these two ahead of him

 

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heres another one he has 7 for finishing btw !!

 

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10 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

i've stopped loaning players out in FM20, i dont see no use unless you can loan to someone playing same level as you but giving them first team...as long as your youth facilities and coaches are good, they should be fine....problem is, loaning them out to other teams might stall their development for many reasons...playing bad, playing under bad coaches/manager, training with the wrong influential players could influence him to pick up bad traits/personality 

FM20, they have over done it in training, in terms of picking up traits and personality.

Thanks again for all the insight, i haven't played FM for 4-5 years due to lack of time and this topic has helped me so much, thank you and knap and all the people involved for providing us such good guides.

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4 minutes ago, Philbram said:

 

heres another one he has 7 for finishing btw !!

 

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this guy can be a superstar! i can see him being similar to Harry Kane. I'd probably leave his finishing and ask him to shoot with power lol, he looks like an unstoppable target man. you wont be able to get his teamwork up manually but i'd defo get him on strength training 

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9 minutes ago, Philbram said:

only played him a few times keeping him cotton wool

 

only because i have these two ahead of him

 

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heres another one he has 7 for finishing btw !!

 

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Happy with this guys development............

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So with the double intensity training do you not find training related injuries more common?

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1 hour ago, radetzky said:

With defaul tactic have you managed to trash 5-1 away both Barca and Real Madrid?

yes

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6 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

Troy Parrot can have a crazy rapid attribute increase. I've seen him loaned out on my game but Spurs are crazy for that. He develops so quick, and like Greenwood, physical attributes are impressive along with their height 

What kind of ind training do you guys use? 

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4 minutes ago, warman1982 said:

how do you improve tackling then as theres no option? @RDF Tactics @knap

you can't. but what i believe, improving their defensive position could lead to tackling increase. its not facts so i cant say for sure...but i have focused on increasing certain stats, and others that relate to it have gone up....

i've trained att movement on someone and saw their agility increase along with it, obviously not directly related, but agility is how good well someone can stop, start and move in different directions, thats very useful for off the ball movement  

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1 minute ago, RDF Tactics said:

you can't. but what i believe, improving their defensive position could lead to tackling increase. its not facts so i cant say for sure...but i have focused on increasing certain stats, and others that relate to it have gone up....

i've trained att movement on someone and saw their agility increase along with it, obviously not directly related, but agility is how good well someone can stop, start and move in different directions, thats very useful for off the ball movement  

i also think when they are training "playing position and playing matches in reserves and first team it wil increase by default

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9 minutes ago, godofnoobs said:

i also think when they are training "playing position and playing matches in reserves and first team it wil increase by default

it does but i think for people who are at that level. i think lol. When i promote u18s, i always make them available for u18s matches, so he's training with first team players, but getting match practise with people at his level. when you look at a youth players report, it says what level there currently at. so if i was to loan someone out, and my report says he plays at Championship level, i won't loan him to a team in leagues below that level. 

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Hi Knap or Everyone!

 

Do you use OI for tactics?

Thank you in advance!

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3 minutes ago, Koko44 said:

Hi Knap or Everyone!

 

Do you use OI for tactics?

Thank you in advance!

no oi :D 

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I've only just gone and knocked Man United out of the League cup quarter finals with York City!! Semi Finals here I come. Beat Bradford City, Port Vale, Cardiff, Liverpool and Now Manchester United at Old trafford to reach the Semi's. Tacic I used for this victory was the trusted !!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULFKnapTMPP102ALLCUPS




 

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@Adam Sutton

Good to see the traditional tm poacher tactic being put to good use, sleighing the mighty MU.

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14 minutes ago, Adam Sutton said:

I've only just gone and knocked Man United out of the League cup quarter finals with York City!! Semi Finals here I come. Beat Bradford City, Port Vale, Cardiff, Liverpool and Now Manchester United at Old trafford to reach the Semi's. Tacic I used for this victory was the trusted !!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULFKnapTMPP102ALLCUPS




 

Man United Vs York.jpg

team that beat Man U.jpg

Immense accomplishment, congratulations!

Apart from staff micro-management, do you ever play with tactic mentality, or rather play plugn play style?

Thanks.

 

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16 minutes ago, Adam Sutton said:

I've only just gone and knocked Man United out of the League cup quarter finals with York City!! Semi Finals here I come. Beat Bradford City, Port Vale, Cardiff, Liverpool and Now Manchester United at Old trafford to reach the Semi's. Tacic I used for this victory was the trusted !!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULFKnapTMPP102ALLCUPS




 

Man United Vs York.jpg

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do you let your assistant manager do all training/teamtalks etc

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4 minutes ago, knap said:

@Adam Sutton

Good to see the traditional tm poacher tactic being put to good use, sleighing the mighty MU.

I have a question, can I change the Poacher's to AF.

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@adlyd90

Not sure why you would want to change role ,especially now the training is now not by role.

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3 minutes ago, knap said:

@adlyd90

Not sure why you would want to change role ,especially now the training is now not by role.

because I'd rather play as AF than Poacher

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@adlyd90

Although you can set an AF up as a Poacher when you look at both roles the AF will have a higher mentality.It is therefore not a like for like change and is not a tested option

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17 hours ago, jonnysnipe said:

What was your record like? goals scored points etc 

League was 120+ goals and points 106 or so.

Bit higher than season 2 when I played 4411 but had a better team/more developed players.

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@knapwith the Argus 3412, do you get loads of possession?
I used the Argus 343 you posted and found we regularly had 60-65% of the ball which was great.
But I had a bit of a problem with the left sided striker; didn't score too many and had really poor ratings.
Like in this away game:

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Looking at your 3412, seems like the left striker issue isn't just for me.

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@Earnie is God!

MU did not have high possession, and Rashford was the better striker on right.but that has been similarto most tactics

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Guys using !!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULFKnapTMPP102ALLCUPS in Vanarama National , the results are fine but my 2º half is pain all time  and full of reds and yellow cards. 

2º half i normal win 1 , 2 goals and times to times i get draws :( ... keep the attack or change to play in CA wining ?  

Any form to change this?  Thanks 

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@Tigas

If they get an eary yellow the change PI to easy tackling. With a Red try a SUS tactic.

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4 minutes ago, knap said:

@Tigas

If they get an eary yellow the change PI to easy tackling. With a Red try a SUS tactic.

Change the tackling to all team or just the yellow player?

SUS tactic dont understand , can explain better please? :)

 

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@knap I’m currently manager of Aberdeen and I have a very good team which tactic would you recommend please 

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@Tigas

Just yellow card player or players.

SUS is covered in mentality matters but in essence change to regroup hold shape and lower mentality

 

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@Scruffer23

If a top side you can sort Lpool pts and pick a formation that has best players on pitch.

Kashmir can be fun as very attacking 

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