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5 ore fa, themario ha scritto:

Nope. The only thing I added is Mark Tighter.

In my save on the left I have Almada and on the right Stengs. Both are little monsters.

I know very well Calvin, Az is ome of my favorite teams...

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40 minutes ago, knap said:

@RDF Tactics

Do tou want me to test or are you going to finish season?

going to finish but will finish tomorrow. but current on 100pts after 35 games. but LFC also have 100pts but played 36 lol crazy. ive scored crazy amount of goals though, 115+

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6 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

going to finish but will finish tomorrow. but current on 100pts after 35 games. but LFC also have 100pts but played 36 lol crazy. ive scored crazy amount of goals though, 115+

what are the minor PI changes?

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1 minute ago, gazzahutc said:

what are the minor PI changes?

the RB i set to sit narrow to make me more stable as im losing a midfielder, the dlp i set him to pass shorter to keep better possession. and then new ST will also have mark tighter and tackle harder

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Posted (edited)

So this Norwich test got exciting. Excellent tactic this, probably the best I've tried so far.

3 games to go and about to face Liverpool they were sitting 3points beside me, and with one game in hand..

11.thumb.png.f6244a620ff79ac6c6858627806713e0.png

Ended like this, happy not to loose.. But now what? 3points ahead with one game more. Luckily I had 6 + goal difference.

12.thumb.png.334160675d09556f3739f78c25510cc7.png

Or at least i thought I had, then next round:

13.thumb.png.cc1d9544546d6fd71393d66a8aa89baf.png

 M**********s! Suddenly they were equal with me, then they won their game out 2-0, so I thought that was that. They had +2.
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I need them to loose, draw or I need to win by 3 more goals in the last game. No way thats gonna happen now.
They play Everton away, me Watford at home. Well, 2nd place is still good, I thought and pressent instant result for the last time:

15.thumb.png.eeccfdd449f38741c40964f979e1d8ce.png


I guess we can all conclude, this aint Liverpools year :)

FM20.4.1Fire_and_WaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf

Edited by Rober82
Added tactic.

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7 minutes ago, Rober82 said:

So this Norwich test got exciting. Excellent tactic this, probably the best I've tried so far.

3 games to go and about to face Liverpool they were sitting 3points beside me, and with one game in hand..

11.thumb.png.f6244a620ff79ac6c6858627806713e0.png

Ended like this, happy not to loose.. But now what? 3points ahead with one game more. Luckily I had 6 + goal difference.

12.thumb.png.334160675d09556f3739f78c25510cc7.png

Or at least i thought I had, then next round:

13.thumb.png.cc1d9544546d6fd71393d66a8aa89baf.png

 M**********s! Suddenly they were equal with me, then they won their game out 2-0, so I thought that was that. They had +2.
14.thumb.png.34b84b8cdf460d29331396dae2b372bb.png


I need them to loose, draw or I need to win by 3 more goals in the last game. No way thats gonna happen now.
They play Everton away, me Watford at home. Well, 2nd place is still good, I thought and pressent instant result for the last time:

15.thumb.png.eeccfdd449f38741c40964f979e1d8ce.png


I guess we can all conclude, this aint Liverpools year :)

what tactic is this buddy?

 

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7 minutes ago, Rober82 said:

So this Norwich test got exciting. Excellent tactic this, probably the best I've tried so far.

3 games to go and about to face Liverpool they were sitting 3points beside me, and with one game in hand..

11.thumb.png.f6244a620ff79ac6c6858627806713e0.png

Ended like this, happy not to loose.. But now what? 3points ahead with one game more. Luckily I had 6 + goal difference.

12.thumb.png.334160675d09556f3739f78c25510cc7.png

Or at least i thought I had, then next round:

13.thumb.png.cc1d9544546d6fd71393d66a8aa89baf.png

 M**********s! Suddenly they were equal with me, then they won their game out 2-0, so I thought that was that. They had +2.
14.thumb.png.34b84b8cdf460d29331396dae2b372bb.png


I need them to loose, draw or I need to win by 3 more goals in the last game. No way thats gonna happen now.
They play Everton away, me Watford at home. Well, 2nd place is still good, I thought and pressent instant result for the last time:

15.thumb.png.eeccfdd449f38741c40964f979e1d8ce.png


I guess we can all conclude, this aint Liverpools year :)

which tac m8

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2 minutes ago, Rober82 said:

Added tactic to post.

did you make any changes ?

 

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Any suggestions for a 451 away tactic?

Using Preachin Blues Vol 5 which is working well at home

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hace 2 horas, knap dijo:

Screenshot (973).png

 
Something like that I was looking for ... wishing you put the tactic!

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4 hours ago, Rober82 said:

So this Norwich test got exciting. Excellent tactic this, probably the best I've tried so far.

3 games to go and about to face Liverpool they were sitting 3points beside me, and with one game in hand..

11.thumb.png.f6244a620ff79ac6c6858627806713e0.png

Ended like this, happy not to loose.. But now what? 3points ahead with one game more. Luckily I had 6 + goal difference.

12.thumb.png.334160675d09556f3739f78c25510cc7.png

Or at least i thought I had, then next round:

13.thumb.png.cc1d9544546d6fd71393d66a8aa89baf.png

 M**********s! Suddenly they were equal with me, then they won their game out 2-0, so I thought that was that. They had +2.
14.thumb.png.34b84b8cdf460d29331396dae2b372bb.png


I need them to loose, draw or I need to win by 3 more goals in the last game. No way thats gonna happen now.
They play Everton away, me Watford at home. Well, 2nd place is still good, I thought and pressent instant result for the last time:

15.thumb.png.eeccfdd449f38741c40964f979e1d8ce.png


I guess we can all conclude, this aint Liverpools year :)

FM20.4.1Fire_and_WaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf 45.39 kB · 45 downloads

what training you use ??  thanks buddy 

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9 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

i only play with 1 tactic all season. this year im playing the same tactic as before, but moved one AMC to ST with minor PI changes too.

these are the results so far. i have scored 96 goals in 28 games. crazy

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Hi, which one is it ? Mississipi or new Black Echo ? 

Thanks!

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10 hours ago, knap said:

Screenshot (973).png

What tactic is this?

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Just now, godofnoobs said:

i think its a new one he is testing

It looks amazing! Those possessions stats along with chances created... also good to see a 3 at the back formation doing so well!

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3 minutes ago, Spikester said:

It looks amazing! Those possessions stats along with chances created... also good to see a 3 at the back formation doing so well!

juicy tactic indeed

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9 hours ago, Rober82 said:

So this Norwich test got exciting. Excellent tactic this, probably the best I've tried so far.

3 games to go and about to face Liverpool they were sitting 3points beside me, and with one game in hand..

11.thumb.png.f6244a620ff79ac6c6858627806713e0.png

Ended like this, happy not to loose.. But now what? 3points ahead with one game more. Luckily I had 6 + goal difference.

12.thumb.png.334160675d09556f3739f78c25510cc7.png

Or at least i thought I had, then next round:

13.thumb.png.cc1d9544546d6fd71393d66a8aa89baf.png

 M**********s! Suddenly they were equal with me, then they won their game out 2-0, so I thought that was that. They had +2.
14.thumb.png.34b84b8cdf460d29331396dae2b372bb.png


I need them to loose, draw or I need to win by 3 more goals in the last game. No way thats gonna happen now.
They play Everton away, me Watford at home. Well, 2nd place is still good, I thought and pressent instant result for the last time:

15.thumb.png.eeccfdd449f38741c40964f979e1d8ce.png


I guess we can all conclude, this aint Liverpools year :)

FM20.4.1Fire_and_WaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf 45.39 kB · 108 downloads

Can i see your end of season squad page with the goals/assists/ratings on please?

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Posted (edited)

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No Transfer 

Instant Result in cup matches 

 

 

Fire and Water VOL23421 :applause:

 

 

Superb performance by Billy Sharp 

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Edited by vengeancefold

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Thanks for your tactics @knap, great results.
I won the Portuguese First League and I'm in the Champions League Final.

 
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On 16/04/2020 at 11:19, RDF Tactics said:

2nd season completed. Again, won everything apart from the FA Cup so they clearly don't want me to win that. 1st season finished on 94pts, this season on 98pts so improvement.

Again, made no transfers, only sold players and used youth players. This year, i used FIRE AND WATER  VOL 2 4321 OXFORD P103 EC with floated crosses

Greenwood 34 goals in 38 starts. Martial 26 goals in 31. pretty much my back 4 and Lingard are average rated players so by far have the best squad.

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RDF do you skip tactical breifs or leave them to assistant?

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16 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

what tactic you using for at home? its probably better to just use that and remove one or two instructions

I’m using Kasmir 433 P110, but also have other variable such as black echo 4231 and 4411

by the way, what was your training plan that make Hannibal Mebri Off the ball (20)? Is there a link or anything to the training plan?

Edited by #hashtagJX

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@Philbram

 

The 12 1 was a one off, the next result was a 0-0

There will be an updated ARGUS 343, but not finalised.

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Just now, knap said:

@Philbram

 

The 12 1 was a one off, the next result was a 0-0

There will be an updated ARGUS 343, but not finalised.


 

good work mate 

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I still love the !FM20.2.4Teafor One4411p102EC, did that ever get updated @knap? I carried on using it through the updates with great success so I never looked for any updated versions. It's my go to tactic. It's about as close to plug n play home and away as I've found.

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1 hour ago, godofnoobs said:

RDF do you skip tactical breifs or leave them to assistant?

I skip them 

52 minutes ago, #hashtagJX said:

I’m using Kasmir 433 P110, but also have other variable such as black echo 4231 and 4411

by the way, what was your training plan that make Hannibal Mebri Off the ball (20)? Is there a link or anything to the training plan?

My assistant did the general training. I controlled players individual training. I set him attacking movement as focus with double intensity 

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@RDF Tactics

So far, your tweak works for me, I switched to it well and won four of four matches.
Real Madrid (H) 2-1
Getafe (H) 4-0
Betis (A) 3-0
Mallorca (A) 3-0

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@8BuggieNights15

 

It has neen updated although sometimes it is just a re badge, However, I would not change when winning.

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Are the underdog tactics on Google Docs the ones that have done well with Norwich etc?

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@Danny648

In essence the underdog recommendation is based on Norwich results.

I've not included Fire P103 although Rober has used this tactic with Highest Norwich pts tally.

In general most of the tactics should get 70+pts , and 80+ is very good going.

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okay. so today i ran a test to see if i have figured out training and development to get people to develop rapid, and this happened...this test wasn't for match results but for development results...we're currently talking about it over discord and don't want to explain all the details here as its Knaps thread, i'll have to create a new thread, but i will post this here as i am using Knaps tactic...which is, for me, by far the best i've used so far on FM ( i can go into details with that if someone wants to know why lol)

but heres the results. and my squad, which you can see, isnt the best...dont let the current ability fool you, most these players wasnt rated highly at the start. Im using the Fire and Water 4132 but with "play out of defence" removed as my team struggled with others pressing. Hoffenheim predicted to finish 8th!

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this is to show you how great things are. Im using high press with hard tackling, whilst having the worst Work Rate and Aggression in the league. Impressive to win the league

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great training equals high morale equals good results. look at the training rating from everyone, everyone training great. the average must be around 8.0

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turning average players into good ones in a short period of time

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6 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

okay. so today i ran a test to see if i have figured out training and development to get people to develop rapid, and this happened...this test wasn't for match results but for development results...we're currently talking about it over discord and don't want to explain all the details here as its Knaps thread, i'll have to create a new thread, but i will post this here as i am using Knaps tactic...which is, for me, by far the best i've used so far on FM ( i can go into details with that if someone wants to know why lol)

but heres the results. and my squad, which you can see, isnt the best...dont let the current ability fool you, most these players wasnt rated highly at the start. Im using the Fire and Water 4132 but with "play out of defence" removed as my team struggled with others pressing. Hoffenheim predicted to finish 8th!

20200417155640_1.thumb.jpg.2b33a195d524170365c73a1f82a4e0c2.jpg20200417155907_1.thumb.jpg.60efbd6d14db4a518f79b195ae0fea68.jpg20200417152751_1.thumb.jpg.740c1671567e28d62d2554e1db62c63a.jpg

this is to show you how great things are. Im using high press with hard tackling, whilst having the worst Work Rate and Aggression in the league. Impressive to win the league

20200417152816_1.thumb.jpg.89f6a1954513c2a11d78d0b98731d54d.jpg

great training equals high morale equals good results. look at the training rating from everyone, everyone training great. the average must be around 8.0

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turning average players into good ones in a short period of time

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incredible

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Hi @knap @RDF Tactics,

 

I understand that you are running the tactics using instant results.

Will it be the reason I am getting different results? Because i am playing every single game not using any holiday mode or instant result. I sim originally.

And the results are not really pleasant.

 

the tactics i am testing are as below. But result are really bad and i am playing with Man Utd

!!!!!!FM20.4.1KnapKashmir433MUP111VOL5P101ALLCUPS.fmf FM20.4.1Fire_and_WaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf

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2 minutes ago, Haze.Yamato said:

Hi @knap @RDF Tactics,

 

I understand that you are running the tactics using instant results.

Will it be the reason I am getting different results? Because i am playing every single game not using any holiday mode or instant result. I sim originally.

And the results are not really pleasant.

 

the tactics i am testing are as below. But result are really bad and i am playing with Man Utd

!!!!!!FM20.4.1KnapKashmir433MUP111VOL5P101ALLCUPS.fmf 45.37 kB · 0 downloads FM20.4.1Fire_and_WaterVOL24321OXP103EC.fmf 45.39 kB · 0 downloads

Not all my matches are instant result. If I want to tweak something I have to watch it to see how the tweak is doing. But I start the season watching matches to see what my team can and can't do, that's why I removed play out of defence because my team couldn't do it and it gave me poor results

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