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So if the ME has gone heavy on AM's in the tactics surely it would make sense to go with a 433  no strikers but 3 Am's instead ......so you now what i mean ..a strikerless tactic might just do the trick !!!??? @knap

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On 11/03/2020 at 19:57, knap said:

@Urotsukidoji

Knap 4231 tweak.

!!!!FM20.4.0TeaforOneUroKnap4231P100ECCC.fmf 45.67 kB · 946 downloads

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Hope knap doesn't mind me posting here but it is basically his tactic and I didn't think it warranted a separate thread>
ive being using knaps tea for one 4231, and while it was good it had some faults.

My tweaks were to change to a short slow passing game but not tic tac.

Change mentality to positive. This suits a passing game more, stops my wb from making stupid runs, lowers balls over the defence, and most of all STOPS LATE GOALS. I never change to attacking even when losing and still have faith ill score.

Tweaked Inside forwards to play narrower, and I play narrower overall.

Made my DLP play more direct passing

Added attack set piece called Goalmachine from Steam, and added my own defending corner setpiece that has never conceded a goal apart from in multiplayer where the opponent used goal machine. Also tweaked def set pieces.

WB play wider.

Focus down the flanks. Play wide.

GK tweaks.

Various tweaks to player instructions.

My best result was beating Chelsea with an edited blackburn team 5-1. My team is probably on par with Bournemouth. This tactic also beats big teams.

Kept all roles same as knap. I tried attacking mids, inside wingers, but the roles knap has chosen cant be bettered. 

I have never lost with this tactic tweak in 2 days. Ive drawn a few but never lost.

After the game update my previous 4231 was performed badly and I found this 4231 tactic perform consistently  good. The attacking play and set piece is quite beautiful and efficient. Thanks for the great work.

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@ness01

Weird as I was just re testing. no changes from original

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hi knap the tea i was specifically referring too was 4-4-1-1 vol 4 its the most recent tactic ive been using. unless of course you think the current version 4 will be performing as previous. just about to start up a new long term self isolation save and wanna be sure of the tacti ill use first with confidence. heard a lot of complaints regarding tactics being affected.

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2 hours ago, knap said:

@Heywood JaBlowme

Is Beowulf 442  back to original performance?

I want to finish out the current season but so far I would say this Beowulf 442 is performing better than in 20.4. My scoring is spread out as I rotate my squad regularly. 

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1 hour ago, harisnuriakhlaq said:

@inosolan  is this on touch? and did you change the mentality in away games or make any changes?

no change

not FMT

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4 minutos atrás, marksmithlfc1234 disse:

5910609f2b61d_!FM17.3.1GOODBYE3430THP102_47A60AA0-22E4-4260-AC56-B79B426E4DFE.fmf 39 kB · 0 downloads

i know this is a long shot but is there anyway to upload this into FM20 please for the life of me it wont load ? 

!FM118GOODBYEKnap343P1013430THP93.fmf 42 kB · 0 downloads

These are FM17 and FM18 tactics, not compatible with FM20.

Check Knaps initial post on this thread to find a Google Doc with all the FM20 tactics he has created so far.

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@marksmithlfc1234

FM 19 was a change with LOE coming in and the various fluid/structured systems removed.

The FM 19 version was as close I could get to the original tactics, but you cannot replicate the structures.

There is a 3430 FM 20 Tactic

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If anyone wants a tactic re tested in 20.4.1 let me know. There is still a lot of testing taking place in 20.4.1 on various tactics.

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7 minutes ago, neomansysPT said:

These are FM17 and FM18 tactics, not compatible with FM20.

Check Knaps initial post on this thread to find a Google Doc with all the FM20 tactics he has created so far.

i know this already mate was asking knap if he could upload into a fm20 so thanks for your concearn !! 

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19 minutos atrás, marksmithlfc1234 disse:

i know this already mate was asking knap if he could upload into a fm20 so thanks for your concearn !! 

I apologize, I misunderstood the question :)

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2 hours ago, neomansysPT said:

 

Hey @RDF Tactics mate, what changes do you do when you go up against a Juve or Bayern on the latter stages of the CL?

 

Cheers!

depends on their style of play. but always have "get stuck in" removed for all cup games. away against Madrid, i'd go cautious if its instant result or if you're watching it, you can start on balance and see how it plays for 20mins. 

to be honest, after a while i just get a feel of what i should do. Burnley play defensive against me, most times i feel to play on control and leave "get stuck in" both home and away as theirs little risk of miss timing tackles

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3 minutes ago, neomansysPT said:

I apologize, I misunderstood the question :)

No worries mate its easy done !! Have a good day !!:lol:

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1 hour ago, knap said:

FM 20.4.1

TEA FOR ONE URO TWEAK 4231 P101

56% Possession

!!!!FM20.4.1TeaforOneUroKnap4231P101.fmf 45.66 kB · 35 downloads

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With Arsenal i got average Possession of 58 % after first season. Even in tough away games vs City, Pool, etc. But with Dortmund only ~ 48%. Is this because of the Clubs reputation or the style of play in Bundesliga? Dortmunds players should actually be better than Arsenals in first season. 
Nevertheless it is a great tactic!

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3 hours ago, knap said:

@macca72

 

The ME has gone from 2 DM s tactics to top heavy 2 AM tactics, I would recommend a 4321 442 4411.

Sicilian 42211 uses 2 DMs and a lone striker.

 

Hmmm ok. I may go 442 for a change then and do some re-training.  Which of your 442 would you say is best for Leeds, building a long term squad around?

Cheers

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@macca72

For a 442 BEOWULF P107 but there is also TEQUILA which has a DM and there are away tactics. May be a nice combo 1st season in PL as well

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@knap what would you say now is the best tactic then if your saying the ME is now leaning towards Attacking midfielder's instead of DM's ? 

4321OX Tactic ??

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38 minutes ago, knap said:

FM 20.4.1 

TEA FOR ONE VOL 4 4411 P104 FA CC  NO CHANGE

 

!!!!!FM20.4.1Teafor OneVOL44411p104FACC.fmf 45.15 kB · 15 downloads

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Hi Knap, 

i used Vol 3 of this for west ham 1st season and won the premiership. it was consistent and solid. 

image.thumb.png.d7ed18646f5d7d042dde885f3b12b15b.pngis this a better version, or just an updated one?

 i am about to start season 2 and loved this 1st season so happy to try if you recommend it.

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@S_redelinghuys

It is just an updated version. There is more test data to come later, so maybe see which is best.

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So this Kashmir Vol 5 is like stealing the kids easter-candy!

Absurd half a season with Valencia. So I used first eleven in league to test with instant result, and 2 eleven played in cups and CL as they are not so important for testing. But still the 2nd team won all games except Liverpool away in a group of Liverpool, Napoli and Gent....

As for the central midfielder Dani Parejo with 18 goals in 18 games, he needs to stop.. They have families. You are not a striker my friend.

Now results may vary, as this does ask some demands of having the right players in positions. Such as CWBs who can cross, a good mezzala, and 3 strikers, but when you have them. Wow does it work.

20 goals from corners. 20 from trough balls and 20 from crosses.

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6 ore fa, RDF Tactics ha scritto:

in fm touch, the scout reports will be in your inbox. they come a week or a couple days before the match

yes i've found the report but it looks different.

There isn't a scree in which my scout says if the other manage will play attacking or cautious and so on

Scout Report field shows the same screen as Overview field 

 

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FM 20.4 and 20.3 me 2040  Tactics  (includes FM 20.2 Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4)

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

FOR SUS AT END OF GAME TRY - REGROUP AND HOLD SHAPE

 

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

RECOMMENDED TRAINING SCHEDULES

Cadoni recommendations

  •  

My journey with Maidstone:

I have to blame myself, not designing and playing from 1 match with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE VOL4 4411 P103 ALL CUPS.

I have designed my team to play with Black Echo 442.

If someone plays at Vanarama, they know that finding players is PITA.

Three defeats with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE.

Rest defeats with Black Echo.

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Breaking wins for the team

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What about goals? We have it.

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My goal machine (this is a joke Knap, congrats)

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Regarding for yellow and red cards and fouls

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Now.

The more serious things about the game.

I am taking responsibility of training.

I am using 2 Match from FM Korea and Chance Creation & Score More Goals from Passion4FM.

https://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-training-schedules-megapack/

I am also using training sche. for youths from Passion4FM.

Not so much for comment about those, I have started to use it 8 months (in game) now.

Chance Creation & Score More Goals sche. really helps. I haven't checked Youths.

SHOTS

Demand More when we are winning by 1 goal.

Show Some Passion when we are back at score.

Praise when winning 2 or more goals.

--

FA Trophy and if we make League 2 promotion, who knows.

 

MRr Hough recommended shouts

Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals

Edited 18 hours ago by knap

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@marksmithlfc1234

 

We started FM 20 with Sicilian 4222 being the dominate tactics and now Oxford with 1 MC and 2 AMs being top dog. Wide tactics are still trumping narrow,

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4 minutes ago, knap said:

@marksmithlfc1234

 

We started FM 20 with Sicilian 4222 being the dominate tactics and now Oxford with 1 MC and 2 AMs being top dog. Wide tactics are still trumping narrow,

Are the AMs getting good ratings? I dislike tactics which are effective but the AMs have poor ratings. Im currently using a Beowulf 442 with Sunderland 1st season (Yes down to the 'Sunderland Til I Die' show on Neflix). So far so good, by far the best corner set up ive used this year. Averaging better than a goal a game, my centre half is flying.

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2 minutes ago, Danny648 said:

Are the AMs getting good ratings? I dislike tactics which are effective but the AMs have poor ratings. Im currently using a Beowulf 442 with Sunderland 1st season (Yes down to the 'Sunderland Til I Die' show on Neflix). So far so good, by far the best corner set up ive used this year. Averaging better than a goal a game, my centre half is flying.

what one are you using ?

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Which tactic would you recommend for a LL team , pretty much forced into using young and inexperienced players.

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@ronaldinosa

I use the same tactics in LL as any other league. If likely to be under dof perhaps Tequila.

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if people looking for a tactic for Tottenham then this is one. Treble 1st season (League, Champions League and League cup) removed "get stuck in" only with some away games.

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2 saat önce, knap said:

FM 20.4 and 20.3 me 2040  Tactics  (includes FM 20.2 Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4)

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

soo many tactics. please select best tactics from your list.

Spoiler

 

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

FOR SUS AT END OF GAME TRY - REGROUP AND HOLD SHAPE

 

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

RECOMMENDED TRAINING SCHEDULES

Cadoni recommendations

  •  

My journey with Maidstone:

I have to blame myself, not designing and playing from 1 match with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE VOL4 4411 P103 ALL CUPS.

I have designed my team to play with Black Echo 442.

If someone plays at Vanarama, they know that finding players is PITA.

Three defeats with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE.

Rest defeats with Black Echo.

Screenshot_3.thumb.png.0212956aa09a1a973b3a0392e072baf1.png

Screenshot_6.thumb.png.da55700b5958a9cd4b50ae19cf512cd9.png

Breaking wins for the team

Screenshot_1.thumb.png.dfc8bcbcf13d6104fbc27c0bb2326ee8.png

What about goals? We have it.

Screenshot_2.thumb.png.7009d6f197625d3e45cc1ab6df2051e8.png

My goal machine (this is a joke Knap, congrats)

Screenshot_4.thumb.png.6085b39403674b18be6b485340f631bd.png

Screenshot_5.thumb.png.f59a0c20ac9377b6ccf269cc137a4519.png

Regarding for yellow and red cards and fouls

Screenshot_7.thumb.png.56331642177bccd7274639dc6fd86125.png

Screenshot_8.thumb.png.0e6cbb571416a990d069641fd8ba023f.png

Now.

The more serious things about the game.

I am taking responsibility of training.

I am using 2 Match from FM Korea and Chance Creation & Score More Goals from Passion4FM.

https://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-training-schedules-megapack/

I am also using training sche. for youths from Passion4FM.

Not so much for comment about those, I have started to use it 8 months (in game) now.

Chance Creation & Score More Goals sche. really helps. I haven't checked Youths.

SHOTS

Demand More when we are winning by 1 goal.

Show Some Passion when we are back at score.

Praise when winning 2 or more goals.

--

FA Trophy and if we make League 2 promotion, who knows.

 

MRr Hough recommended shouts

Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals

Edited 18 hours ago by knap

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

if people looking for a tactic for Tottenham then this is one. Treble 1st season (League, Champions League and League cup) removed "get stuck in" only with some away games.

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Which tactic is this?

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59 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

if people looking for a tactic for Tottenham then this is one. Treble 1st season (League, Champions League and League cup) removed "get stuck in" only with some away games.

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Got any good ones for Arsenal?

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On 22/03/2020 at 16:32, marksmithlfc1234 said:

Link just takes you back to this page mate ! its broken ?

I started a career with FC Chambly in league 2.it's a great tactic ... I'm still in 20.4 mode

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On 22/03/2020 at 16:32, marksmithlfc1234 said:

Link just takes you back to this page mate ! its broken ?

I started a career with FC Chambly in league 2.it's a great tactic ... I'm still in 20.4 mode

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On 22/03/2020 at 16:32, marksmithlfc1234 said:

Link just takes you back to this page mate ! its broken ?

I started a career with FC Chambly in league 2.it's a great tactic ... I'm still in 20.4 mode

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With the 4-4-2 tactic that I posted at around 182-184ish I just finished my second season... season 1 I had 43 and 35 goal scorer this second season I had. More over scoring, I had a 51 and 42 goal scorer and then also 2-3 other ppl have 10-20goals plus that were not strikers.. best tactic I’ve seen yet

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