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WOW! yes its a LFC test but no signings, no editors used (game status screenshot here too) in all comps PL64 W54 D7 L3. Won 5 cups including the CL also winning the league with 105pts. All matches instant result used

its named Tequilas Cousin as its a tweak of Knaps TequilaSunrise

!!FM20.4.0TequilasCousin4141.fmf

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11 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

WOW! yes its a LFC test but no signings, no editors used (game status screenshot here too) in all comps PL64 W54 D7 L3. Won 5 cups including the CL also winning the league with 105pts. All matches instant result used

its named Tequilas Cousin as its a tweak of Knaps TequilaSunrise

!!FM20.4.0TequilasCousin4141.fmf 45.04 kB · 15 downloads

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Do you use another tactic with it or just this one pal?

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40 minutes ago, madhatter75 said:

Do you use another tactic with it or just this one pal?

for LFC i only used this one. Im playing the full version with Arsenal now, so if i come up with a away version i'll put it up

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57 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

WOW! yes its a LFC test but no signings, no editors used (game status screenshot here too) in all comps PL64 W54 D7 L3. Won 5 cups including the CL also winning the league with 105pts. All matches instant result used

its named Tequilas Cousin as its a tweak of Knaps TequilaSunrise

!!FM20.4.0TequilasCousin4141.fmf 45.04 kB · 65 downloads

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Hi @RDF Tactics

Is that the same tactic you used to play with Bournemouth?

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Just now, miangelo said:

Hi @RDF Tactics

Is that the same tactic you used to play with Bournemouth?

basically the same. just a few tweaks as i tried to use the same for LFC but it wasnt consistent. i changed the CM role to box to box. included "work into box" and "tackle harder"

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1 minute ago, miangelo said:

@RDF Tactics

So you removed "tackle harder" from all the players, right?

no, i added tackle harder in team instructions from my bournemouth test to LFC

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35 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

for LFC i only used this one. Im playing the full version with Arsenal now, so if i come up with a away version i'll put it up

Thank you

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@RDF Tactics

First game with your tactics!
And I can say that the result is just incredible for my team!
I used the first half of your tactics with Liverpool and then the one you used with Bournemouth

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1 hour ago, RDF Tactics said:

WOW! yes its a LFC test but no signings, no editors used (game status screenshot here too) in all comps PL64 W54 D7 L3. Won 5 cups including the CL also winning the league with 105pts. All matches instant result used

its named Tequilas Cousin as its a tweak of Knaps TequilaSunrise

!!FM20.4.0TequilasCousin4141.fmf 45.04 kB · 95 downloads

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please can you share a link to your bournemouth tactic, thanks in advance 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, lordy159 said:

please can you share a link to your bournemouth tactic, thanks in advance 

 

 

 

 

its basically the same. i said the changes above. the CM role in CM changed to box to box, tackle harder is in bournemouth test and neither is work ball into box

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FM 20.4 and 20.3 me 2040  Tactics  (includes FM 20.2 Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4)

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Elite  Club say 1-2in League (Lpool MC etc) Top  3-7 in League

Top 3-  7 in League

Good  8-11

Average 12-16

Poor 17-20

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

FOR SUS AT END OF GAME TRY - REGROUP AND HOLD SHAPE

How is Tactic Testing done?
We test each tactic over a 90 game season (11 months in total) with 5 teams of varying levels of both ability and reputation. Each team is in a self-contained league that mimics real-life (majority the same level, but some are in the level above or below). This means that our test teams should be around mid-table level.

To make the test balanced transfers, internationals, injuries and fatigue are turned off for all teams.

What are the levels and how are they calculated?
Levels of teams are based on club reputation. The levels are as follows:

 

Elite - Barcelona, Arsenal

Top - Borussia Dortmund, FC Krasnodar

Good - CEC, Rangers

Average - Malmo FF, Newcastle United Jets

Lower - Al-Rayyan Sports Club, Southport


We worked out the average reputation of each of the levels, combined with taking a set of 5 clubs (2 top reputation, 2 lowest reputation and 1 in the middle) to find out the Top and Bottom CA for players, as well as the Median.

 

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

RECOMMENDED TRAINING SCHEDULES

Cadoni recommendations

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My journey with Maidstone:

I have to blame myself, not designing and playing from 1 match with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE VOL4 4411 P103 ALL CUPS.

I have designed my team to play with Black Echo 442.

If someone plays at Vanarama, they know that finding players is PITA.

Three defeats with 20.4.0 TEA FOR ONE.

Rest defeats with Black Echo.

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Breaking wins for the team

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What about goals? We have it.

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My goal machine (this is a joke Knap, congrats)

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Regarding for yellow and red cards and fouls

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Now.

The more serious things about the game.

I am taking responsibility of training.

I am using 2 Match from FM Korea and Chance Creation & Score More Goals from Passion4FM.

https://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-training-schedules-megapack/

I am also using training sche. for youths from Passion4FM.

Not so much for comment about those, I have started to use it 8 months (in game) now.

Chance Creation & Score More Goals sche. really helps. I haven't checked Youths.

SHOTS

Demand More when we are winning by 1 goal.

Show Some Passion when we are back at score.

Praise when winning 2 or more goals.

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FA Trophy and if we make League 2 promotion, who knows.

 

MRr Hough recommended shouts

Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals

Edited Wednesday at 21:24 by knap

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Thank you Knap, I will try this Mississipi tactic with Caen in my 2nd season (after I ve been promoted in French League 1).

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On 11/03/2020 at 19:10, knap said:

FM 20.4.0

LOOK AWAY 4132 P102 ALL CUPS

!!!!FM20.4.0LookAwayKnap4132P102ALLC'UPS.fmf 45.24 kB · 330 downloads

 

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Was messing around trying to find a perfect formation for how I wanted the game to play.. end up on a VERY similar formation and then went looking for this.  Defensively SOLID and good going forward.. ideal formation and works sub top very well.

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@inosolan

 

I think I would be happy with most of those.

Do you want a job testing!!

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@inosolan

We discuss most of the testing on MR L Discord, and I can send you an invite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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eencae has been using Kashmir with Wigan but also using a non hard tackle version for away games.Probably needs another season of testing, butif you want to try this version let me know.

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I've not posted any updates from my Parma season recently, I have a decent team now so good results are expected. I'm just chasing a Champions League which escapes me now.. Lost a semi final and 2 Finals so far, We'll get it though.

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@knap

Have you tested your Elite 433? how did it place?

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@knap

Asking as a newbie, what two tactics would you be recommend for Dortmund for home and away (or home against big teams ie Bayern, Liverpool)?

Thanks

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What's the best tactic for Chelsea (summer season 2019) please ?

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@Danny648

Elite 433 is now Kashmir 433 and can be used with any team, but with an Elite it should high score.

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Knap help please....

used a mix of 4411 and the tea for one 4321 to get Winchester to the premier league and finished 7th in first season (Awesome tactic). The problem is I get smashed away from home against top 6. I have tried the 442 away tactic with even worse results. Any other suggestions for getting good results away from home with a mid table ish team.

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2 hours ago, knap said:

@8BuggieNights15

Do you think changing tactic each season keeps the AI guessing?

I think so, It's certainly not impacted me negatively changing tactics each season, I've only done that because my signings didn't pan out the way I planned.

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@Loamei]

I would imagine sub top and google docs can be sorted for sub top recommended tactics.

My pick would be Kashmir 433 Oxford tactics 4321 Mississippi or Tea Tequila Sunrise 41311 Black Echo 4141

 

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@mariomorra1978

No idea what level but google docs can be sorted for top sub top underdog. If underdog check French underdog tests.

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@Akustik

Sub top and I would try Kashmir or Oxford TEA P103 OR P106 MAYBE TEQUILA 41311

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@aOnn1848

Stmphony for the devil was set up with Leipzig , otherwise advice as above.

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Won the league and Carabao cup with Bournemouth using Hard Time Killing Floor Blues 4132 P104 EC FA  tactic and BIG AWAY for big away games. Crazy ****ing season image.thumb.png.b13fc8093260dff88c7729a7aaf1726e.png

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@deadclear

 

Good season. I like how the RDF  big away plays Killing Floor is good woth possession. What was average possession over season?

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3 minutes ago, knap said:

@deadclear

 

Good season. I like how the RDF  big away plays Killing Floor is good woth possession. What was average possession over season?

About 53% possession which is good for Bournemouth. I played liverpool 3 games in a row, 2 were back to back EPL games and one was the Carabao cup final, I used big away for all 3 of those games. Beat Arsenal 4-0 and City too which was nuts. I always struggling against city on FM 

 

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@deadclear

Lpool was only 55% so good possession with Bmouth.

I would say if you look in trouble in a game then change to Big Away and try to take control.

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@RDF Tactics

I had a lot of RNG with tests..

Can you confirm which tactics I should add to Google docs, or are you still testing?

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Posted (edited)

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So @knap i carried on and started a new full game save and it plays much better on this than on FMT and look at the results  the ones i lost i panicked and changed tactic 2 or 3 times during the game but once i started trusting the tactic i am doing wonders witn Tottenham hotspurs , You just have to give it time but in full game works so much better as you can give team talks and shouts to turn your games around !! Thank you !!

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Posted (edited)

Hi,

Looking for some guidelines in a 4231 or 5212 (with Wing back) possession tactic. Can any one suggest one so I can use as base?

 

Thanks

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