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FM 20.2 Tactics  (includes Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4)

TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW

http://bit.ly/knaptactics

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Top Club say 1-4 in League (Lpool MC etc)

Sub Top  3-7 in League

Sub Top 5-10 in League

Sub Mid 11-15

Underdog the rest

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE

MRr Hough recommended shouts

Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals

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22 hours ago, QuickZombie said:

What tweaks did you do? I've been messing around with the 343 myself.

I did the following:

- Dropped the passing range to slightly shorter

- Added the instruction "mark specific position" to the AML to mark the opposing DR, as it was missing and Knap said it was supposed to be there in the first place

- made sure that I changed the marking of my WBs and AMR/Ls to according to the opposition. If a team employed wingbacks, I modified my AMR/L marking to mark the opposing WBs. If a team played with MR/L instead of AMR/L I adjusted my WBs marking accordingly to mark them instead of the default AMR/L

- I slotted the original tactic and the original tactic with more direct passing and followed the A.manager instruction whenever he said "We need to play with more direct passes". That way I could adjust easily, without losing any tactical familiarity.

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@Heywood JaBlowme

In theory the most defensive 442 would be 2 DMs and 2 PFs. possible 2 DMs AM PF. The alternative for a defensive tactic is 343 IF. Both protect wing with defensive numbers.

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@EriksenSpurs

I just simulate whole season so no opossition instruction (i think when I'm responsible for OI's Assman shouldn't use them on holiday) , also no transfers and first transfer window is disabled. In the end it's only a test and all tactics with 68+ points in test should be good. Instead of taking the best think about what style and shape u want.

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Im totally confused and overwhelmed with these tons of tactics (blame me ADHD!). Anyway, about to start a save with Napoli. 

Just wondered would they be classed as a 'top team' on the spreadsheet? Also any suggested formation for them? Apologies just seems to be the English teams, but wondered has anyone had any experience with the italian teams like Napoli?

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Any chance you could add the goal difference to the spreadsheet? To help with choosing a tactic if they have similar points. :)

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@mickyt11

The safe tactics to use for any team are Black Echo, Sympathy , Venom and 343 IF. Maybe others can be added to the list with further test results.

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On 16/02/2020 at 21:34, knap said:

@Dreambuilder

 

How are you finding the dropped DL tactic?

 

Did very well with Oxford City in LL Vanarama National League South, thanks. :) Predicted like 21th. Signed better free transfers on all positions tho..

Tactic used: FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA.fmf Mentality: Start Positive home and Balanced away.

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FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA.fmf

Edited by Dreambuilder

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The best tactic is BlackEcho, certainly the most consistent anyway. But there is too much tactics now, I think you should focus on 1 or 2 tactic you think you can make even better rather than re-release tactics.

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Guys,

I'm been away for awile, so i missed a lot tactics on this forum.

What i'm looking for is a good winger tactic with 4 defenders (top/subtop)  has anyone good results with a winger formation?

thx a lot :)

 

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For some reason BlackEcho did not work as well for me as the other top tactics. And I was at a top club. 
 

My squad responded better to Wulf & Sicilian. 

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@bluenosejak

atm the new teaa for one 442 and 4411 are testing above Black Echo with Angers Reims and Toulouse. The 4411 is so far best tested tactic with Norwich.

I've also looked at a42211 tactic which has tested at P74 with Norwich. 

Together with the 343 IF tactic these look like the could be the best underdog tactics although early days.

!FM20.2.4Teafor One42211P95ALLCUPSDefensive.fmf

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Tried Tea 4411 with Derby, really bad results. Lost the first 6 games.

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5 hours ago, knap said:

@juan6one

 

343 IF or Preachin 433  or 451 would be closest.

Hey @knap 

I like the look of thePreachin 451 but not sure which one is best... 

Im in the Dutch top division,  predicted to finish 7th... built a decent team... can you please post the best Preachin 451?

Thanks again for your time and effort...

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Just finishing running a test on WULF 4132 with my tweaks. Finished 2nd with Bournemouth first season (WITH SIGNINGS) 

currently running 2nd season to see how it carries on 

future tip for people. Attend every press conference but just no comment every question. Also handle every tactical briefing but skip them

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On 18/02/2020 at 08:55, erzet17 said:

Tested: 20.2.4 ParisWalkways. My favourite formation 4231. Modified 2 roles (S - AF, CM - DLP) and mentality - positive. 3x UCL, 2x LL, 2x SC. 61 games unbeaten in league. Great tactic.

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Anyone tested this to see how it compares to the original tactic ?

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all home matches and away matches (not away against top 6) very minor tweaks to original by Knap. So ALL credit to him.

!FM20.2.4BOURN4132Knap RDF TWEAK.fmf

ONLY away to top 6 opp (United, City, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, LFC)

!FM20.2.4BOURNAWAY4132Knap RDF TWEAK.fmf

Tips: i attended EVERY press confrence but quickly pressed no comment to every question (i did this because ASS man may say wrong this) also handled every pre match briefing but skipped every one

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Schedules (Balanced for weeks with 1 match. Balanced 2 for weeks with 2 matches)

Balanced.fmfBalanced 2.fmfInternational Break.fmf

first season results - finished 2nd and FA cup final.

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2nd season so far:

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and this just happened (using my away tactic). without my full strength team!!! i will probably go and lose/draw my next game now with strongest team :lol:

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1 minute ago, RDF Tactics said:

and this just happened (using my away tactic). without my full strength team!!! i will probably go and lose/draw my next game now with strongest team :lol:

 

Can you tell us what your minor tweaks from the original are?

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15 minutes ago, Augustin1979 said:

Can you tell us what your minor tweaks from the original are?

most notable changes are.


Removed “pass into space”. Kept losing good possession in the final 3rd

removed “work into box”. This slowed my counter attacks down too much and oppo defence able to get back into position.

removed “roam from position” on ST, and then gave that instruction to both my wingers, makes them more effective 

for the away tactic, I removed play out of defence, changed from counter to regroup. Also changed the LOF to standard

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1 minute ago, knap said:

@Augustin1979

Noticed the 143 goals1

I will try the same tweaks and see if these can make a difference to goals scored.

Yeah I saw that, very impressive. I was just curious, not necessarily to get more goals, I just like having two strikers especially in home games. Will test this after work today!

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Just about to start FM20 after a two-year absence and absolutely blown away by the amount of tactics. Looks like @knap is a no brainer. Can anyone recommend one for a tough away game?

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mike

With Spurs I would use Black Echo Sympathy or Venom

Different approaches for Away games

Use a tactic good with Norwich (Can sort Google Docs)

Use Mentality matters as a guide

Take Dreambuilders approach Above

Take RDF 's approach above

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1 hour ago, RDF Tactics said:

all home matches and away matches (not away against top 6) very minor tweaks to original by Knap. So ALL credit to him.

!FM20.2.4BOURN4132Knap RDF TWEAK.fmf 45.16 kB · 20 downloads

ONLY away to top 6 opp (United, City, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, LFC)

!FM20.2.4BOURNAWAY4132Knap RDF TWEAK.fmf 45.17 kB · 17 downloads

Tips: i attended EVERY press confrence but quickly pressed no comment to every question (i did this because ASS man may say wrong this) also handled every pre match briefing but skipped every one

20200220100336_1.thumb.jpg.676358b2b684672d6d6966c7bbc9f5f8.jpg20200220100030_1.thumb.jpg.a8982247f45d2ec1950d1e9db141ddee.jpg

Schedules (Balanced for weeks with 1 match. Balanced 2 for weeks with 2 matches)

Balanced.fmf 19.14 kB · 6 downloads Balanced 2.fmf 19.14 kB · 10 downloads International Break.fmf 19.13 kB · 8 downloads

first season results - finished 2nd and FA cup final.

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2nd season so far:

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Appreciate uploading this mate. Gonna' give it a try. Having moderate HOME success with BlackEcho but really struggling away. Tea for One just isn't cutting it weirdly. Think this system will work well with Norwich?

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15 minutes ago, EriksenSpurs said:

Appreciate uploading this mate. Gonna' give it a try. Having moderate HOME success with BlackEcho but really struggling away. Tea for One just isn't cutting it weirdly. Think this system will work well with Norwich?

It should work well with Norwich. I tweaked this so it can work with a lower rep team like the Bournemouths and Norwich. Only issue would be your STs. I don’t think it’s suited for Pukki (I may be wrong)

big recommendation is Dimata from Anderlecht. Absolute beast and only cost 6.5mil. 
 

I think STs should have good acceleration, pace, jumping reach, strength and bravery 

“come deep for ball” Is a BAD ppm for the CM position

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