Mr Hough Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I remember a Tactic called Blue Bloods in the last Patch that Used Player Instructions like this and it was very successful in testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 A few years ago now, The Better Half used man marking in her tactics with great success. However,a man marking system means adapting in each game and therefore difficult to include in a P&P tactic. However, if it works and happy playing with man marking then use it to your advantage. It is the same with mentality matters in that by adjusting your game you should be able o get better results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, RockIt147 said: my ML man-marking your WBR，while my MR man-marking your WBL. Just to be clear here for other , who are reading. Is this right? 1. Against 433 & 4231, ML/MR will man mark AML/AMR 2. Against 532 , ML/MR will man mark WBR/WBL 3. And against all other formation who uses AMC, (my MCR) will man mark 4. And against all other formation who uses MCL, (my STCR) will man mark Can you please explain this: "It's easy to play against 433, just pull the striker on the right to stare at the opponent's back." - I didnt understand which position are they talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGib900 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Knap, what would be the best tactic to use for a newly promoted Leeds team? Tried Sympathy but seems to create so many chances and not score and tend to be conceding a fair amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreBothmaTax Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, knap said: It is the same with mentality matters in that by adjusting your game you should be able o get better results. Yeah I agree with Knap here. I don't remember what tactic I'm using - I think its Wulf442Balanced. Last night I played 3 matches on key highlights, pausing the game at minutes 15, 40, 60, 70, 75, 85 using the rough guidelines of Mentality Matters. My team is suffering from lots of injuries to key players, but I still managed to win the cup final 1 - 0, and from 2 league games, won one, and drew the other. I didn't expect to win the final, and thought I was going to lose both league games - mostly because of all the injuries. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Hough said: I remember a Tactic called Blue Bloods in the last Patch that Used Player Instructions like this and it was very successful in testing. Yes,the Blue Blood Sword tactic is a striker-less formation set by a Chinese player, it's name comes from the novel Sword Stained with Royal Blood by Jin Yong, a famous martial arts master in Hong Kong. In fact, the purpose of manually retreating the striker to man-to-man in midfield or using no-forward tactics is to compete for midfield, gain more control, and have more opportunities to break the ball and counterattack in the front court. Edited February 5, 2020 by RockIt147 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, sverige91 said: Just to be clear here for other , who are reading. Is this right? 1. Against 433 & 4231, ML/MR will man mark AML/AMR 2. Against 532 , ML/MR will man mark WBR/WBL 3. And against all other formation who uses AMC, (my MCR) will man mark 4. And against all other formation who uses MCL, (my STCR) will man mark Can you please explain this: "It's easy to play against 433, just pull the striker on the right to stare at the opponent's back." - I didnt understand which position are they talking about. 1. Against 4231, one striker goes back to man-marking one centre midfielder who is the playmaker of your opponent, while one of your MC goes back to man-marking the opponent's AMC or DLF. For example, STCR marking MCL, MCR marking AMC or STCL. 2. Against 41221, one striker goes back to man-marking the DM of your opponent; another striker goes back to man-marking the MC who is the playmaker of your opponent, if needed. For example, STCR marking DM, STCL marking MCR. 3. Against 352,343, etc, ML/MR should man-marking WBR/WBL. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @RossGib900 Is that Sympathy P108? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jepguardiola10 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, RockIt147 said: I played for a season with the tactics adjusted by Mr H and RDF, as shown in the picture, winning the Premier League, Carling Cup and Europa League, and losing to West Ham on penalties in the FA Cup. Of course, I didn't use the Instant Result, to lead the game all by myself, and I used the misplaced man-to-man marking, and every game was manually set, mainly one PF withdrew the opponent's DM or MC, one MC stared at the opponent's AMC or the organizational striker. The using of misplaced man-marking's effect is good, especially in the face of 4231 and 3 DC's tactics. The defensive effect is good, but the overall goal is not so many. Is this beta or? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGib900 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, knap said: @RossGib900 Is that Sympathy P108? yeah mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @RossGib900 Sicilian on positive had good test results, so I would try this tactic. May also be worth trying Northern soul 352 or argus 352. Also man marking guide above and mentality guide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 i have to say the beta game is soo much better than the retail version , Results and gameplay is much better 1v1's is more real than before . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 It is also likely to be closer to final ME. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hp17 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Hi Knap, I'm doing an online save with one of my friend. I'm the host of the save. If I was to change over to the Beta version, would the online game change to the Beta version too? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, knap said: A few years ago now, The Better Half used man marking in her tactics with great success. However,a man marking system means adapting in each game and therefore difficult to include in a P&P tactic. However, if it works and happy playing with man marking then use it to your advantage. It is the same with mentality matters in that by adjusting your game you should be able o get better results. Interestingly, Mourinho did so in the last 2-0 win over Manchester City. He proudly talked about the tactical changes he made Son Heung-Min's target from centre-back to Rodri to Kyle Walker, which actually reflected Tottenham's tactical arrangements at all stages of the game. https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/jose-mourinho-sends-transfer-message-17676919 "What I was saying at that time was the one playing as a nine, when the block was lower they had to get the position of Rodri, forget the centre-backs with the ball. "For the one on left with 15 minutes to go and winning 2-0, just extra effort but at this moment it is not zonal, it to chase Kyle Walker and help defend." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 33 minutes ago, jepguardiola10 said: Is this beta or? Beta, 20.2.4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duesouth Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 20.2.4 just released!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @hp17 Main game has been updated with Beta ME 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hp17 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, knap said: @hp17 Main game has been updated with Beta ME I was using argus 343 and argus 3222. I'm guessing you've not made any tweaks to those yet or are they still working? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marris09 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, knap said: @hp17 Main game has been updated with Beta ME Its a different match engine to the beta,they've confirmed that on twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marris09 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Why are they using same number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marris09 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, knap said: Why are they using same number? Not a clue buddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo666 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) The highlighted section is Beta Wulf 4132 and the other Fixtures are NorthernSoul so far: Edited February 5, 2020 by damo666 Mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Noth look OK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 New patch is out, Knap do they normally release for Touch at the same time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomzo_2 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, knap said: Noth look OK How long does it take you to test a tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 i tend to be setting tactics up which is slower. MR H tests very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Which tactic has tested best on the latest update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jepguardiola10 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RockIt147 said: Beta, 20.2.4 ****, stunning results! I can't understand how i don't get those good results with the same tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Maybe the man marking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Beta tactic BETAFM20.2.4SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipMUP96.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockIt147 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, sverige91 said: Just to be clear here for other , who are reading. Is this right? 1. Against 433 & 4231, ML/MR will man mark AML/AMR 2. Against 532 , ML/MR will man mark WBR/WBL 3. And against all other formation who uses AMC, (my MCR) will man mark 4. And against all other formation who uses MCL, (my STCR) will man mark Can you please explain this: "It's easy to play against 433, just pull the striker on the right to stare at the opponent's back." - I didnt understand which position are they talking about. New season, Community Shield my Wolves 6-0 West Ham United, the opponent is usually a 4141 formation, last season against him three times, two draws and one win, especially after the FA Cup 1-1 draw, I lost in the penalties and stopped in the semi-finals. In new season, I followed his DM all the way with the left forward Patrick Cutrone; the right forward Erling Haaland kept eyes on his MCL (that is, the playmaker of West Ham) and won in the end. I understand that the reason why one of the strikers in the 442 is to keep eyes on the opponent's DM is to force him to return to my own AMC position to ensure the advantage of the number of midfielders, while the other striker follows the opponent's playmaker in order to interfere with the opponent's offensive organization and get more opportunities to break the ball and counter-attack. Of course, if the opponent's strength is average, basically keeping an eye on DM is ok. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukigepard Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Venom & Faith 100P is working great for 20.2.4 after i tweaked IWB's to CWB(a)'s and moved defensive line to much higher. Early to tell after only 7 games, but finally destroying bus parking teams with 6-0 (3 games), 7-1 (one game), 5-0 (one game), other 2 are champions league games against Dortmund (which is maybe a little bit weaker than my side), winning 3-0 away and 4-1 home. Goals are evenly scored between two advanced forwards, left winger seems to get most assists together with midfielders and complete wing backs, and which is surprising, right winger on attack seems to score almost as much as AF, mostly from left wing assist. Left footed winger on left, right footed on right wing Thanks knap, your tactics are amazing as always Edited February 5, 2020 by vukigepard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosejak Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On the latest version now 20.2.4 Is there any massive changes in regards to subtop/home tactics and underdog/away tactic when looking at google list? Or is some of the beta tactics taking over? So many tactics to choose from 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @bluenosejak Mr H will be testing as many tactics as quickly as possible. A few others are also testing, so will need to see what changes are needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 I was going to post this Venom tactic as a Beta tactic. Tactic in updated ME 2039 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deggiall Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, knap said: I was going to post this Venom tactic as a Beta tactic. Tactic in updated ME 2039 And you gave up? Btw 2 matches and 2 copy corner goals. I hope this is not exploit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, vukigepard said: Venom & Faith 100P is working great for 20.2.4 after i tweaked IWB's to CWB(a)'s and moved defensive line to much higher. Early to tell after only 7 games, but finally destroying bus parking teams with 6-0 (3 games), 7-1 (one game), 5-0 (one game), other 2 are champions league games against Dortmund (which is maybe a little bit weaker than my side), winning 3-0 away and 4-1 home. Goals are evenly scored between two advanced forwards, left winger seems to get most assists together with midfielders and complete wing backs, and which is surprising, right winger on attack seems to score almost as much as AF, mostly from left wing assist. Left footed winger on left, right footed on right wing Thanks knap, your tactics are amazing as always why dont you upload it with your changes and lets see how it goes for others ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 vor 30 Minuten schrieb knap: I was going to post this Venom tactic as a Beta tactic. Tactic in updated ME 2039 Can not wait for that one mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruudvanwarren Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, knap said: @hp17 Main game has been updated with Beta ME FMT not been updated @knap ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, knap said: I was going to post this Venom tactic as a Beta tactic. Tactic in updated ME 2039 Waiting patiently... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcK910 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Hey @knap still doing amazing with many of your tactics so no complaints here. One thing I’ve noticed is attacking corners seem to leave an unmarked player on the half way line and very often he gets the ball and has a straight run at my keeper. Have you noticed this in your testing? Just thought I’d point it out. Edited February 5, 2020 by JMcK910 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 FM 20.2.4 !FM20.2.4Venom&Faith442KnapP101EC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGib900 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, knap said: FM 20.2.4 !FM20.2.4Venom&Faith442KnapP101EC.fmf 45.15 kB · 75 downloads Would this work with underdogs or top/sub teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilmz88 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 is this on the beta or new release ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @hilmz88 New release now but Beta tactics and earlier tactics should still work 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, knap said: FM 20.2.4 !FM20.2.4Venom&Faith442KnapP101EC.fmf 45.15 kB · 102 downloads 1. Who takes corners and throw ins? 2. Why is Zaha playing Right Midfielder? He is got "Cuts inside from both Wings" ? and Milner on left? 3. Should we use Left on Left, Right on right, regardless of the PPM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deggiall Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) I suggest give a try FM 20.2beowulf 442WAF P107 With new ME - nearly no through ball counters - Number of CCC reduced ( I mean statistically) but have lots of chances in any case - number of stupid mistakes reduced too Edited February 5, 2020 by deggiall 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @Deggial Still one of my favourite tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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