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2 hours ago, knap said:

I was not going to post Beta tactics, because the ME is likely to change again.

I am just testing ideas.

 

 

Would be nice to have something to use as a base just so I've got a general idea of what is working in the beta.

 

First post in here, thanks for the tactics 

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@dabest

 

FM Base have tested tactics in the Beta and have indicated Beowulf 442 P107 is performing better in beta than 20.2.3. If you have a tactic working in a save I would carry on using it in Beta or stick to 20.2.3.

At this stage I would not say any tactics I've looked at would be better than existing tactics.

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@knap

Season 2 as Roma I'm struggling. Any idea what tactic to try out in serie a? 

My defense are getting beat over the top time and time again. 

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19 hours ago, Ewan0404 said:

I am looking to try FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA

How are people doing with it?

beta patch 20.2.4

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Edited by erzet17

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Tactic tested: BEOWULF442WafKnapP107. Patch 20.2.4 (beta). ACMilan season(1) 2035/20036. Strikers are useless. 1 of 16 UCL. 1st round Italy Cup

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7 minutes ago, knap said:

@erzet17

Sid you say you used it France.

'in 20.2.3 tested BOEWULF442P107 (France 2026-2030) great results'

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@erzet17

Both tactics had same result when tested by FM Base. I still believe the RNG is a lot higher in 20.2.3 than on previous MEs, which can create bad runs. Using fmrte would tend to eliminate this element more than a normal save.

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4 hours ago, knap said:

@mickyt11

Are you on FMT Full Fat or Beta?

Using the full version 20.2.3.

I think Man United suit a 4231. Is there a decent working one here?

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47 minutes ago, knap said:

@dabest

 

FM Base have tested tactics in the Beta and have indicated Beowulf 442 P107 is performing better in beta than 20.2.3. If you have a tactic working in a save I would carry on using it in Beta or stick to 20.2.3.

At this stage I would not say any tactics I've looked at would be better than existing tactics.

 

Thanks

From your testing in the beta, would you say 4-4-2 is still the way to go? I've been trying 1 striker with no success so far

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10 minutes ago, knap said:

@Ewan0404

I would try beta.

Otherwise send me your game and I will have a look.

How do you try beta? And if so do you need to start a new save? 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

What is RNG?

 

Might be wrong but I think it's something to do with randomness 

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@Heywood JaBlowme

 

RNG is just the luck factor. The idea of long test runs is to eliminate that aspect from the testing.

The problem can be having bad luck at the beginning can skew a season of results.

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29 minutes ago, knap said:

@Ewan0404

Beta is right click on steam FM 20 then properties far tab and opt into beta

I may be silly but what actually is the beta once the games out? 

What difference does it make? 

Is it just the beta versions of the match engine updates coming out? 

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24 minutes ago, Ewan0404 said:

I may be silly but what actually is the beta once the games out? 

What difference does it make? 

Is it just the beta versions of the match engine updates coming out? 

Yes :)

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2 hours ago, knap said:

@Ewan0404

Beta is right click on steam FM 20 then properties far tab and opt into beta

What tactic do you recommend for me on the beta? 

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@knap wich tactic is more consistent defensively? WulfP101 or sympathy p108, in an sub top team like Sporting Portugal appointed to be 3rd in Portugal. 

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@Ewan0404

 

Were you not using your own tactic? I would try that first in the Beta as the beta is a different.

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Using Wulf 442 DL 101 ECFA , I was wondering is it more effective to have right foot - right mid and left foot - left mid, or more opposite?

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Probably Wulf

Usually right on right but depends on how thay olay within team.

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I've found Venom&Faith442 p100 to also be okay in the beta, about the same as Beowulf p107, but Venom&Faith p100 is showing to be pretty solid against same level teams and stronger teams also. All round tactic for now. Tried to tweak it little by little, as i tend to do with all knap tactics over the years to try to make them even more efficent, no luck tho. Two CF(s) seem to be working weird, you can score more goals, but also for some reason concede more than with 2 AF's

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My experience with tactics so far in the beta..

Underdog (Wrexham- Wimbledon- Aston villa- Daco Getica) : Leipzig> Venom> Beowulf> Scillian .. not working tactics for me: Wulf 4-1-3-2(inconsistant) and Argus (inconsistant, conceded much but may be my players were not good for it)

Subtop (Oulou- Honka- Viitrolul) : Beowulf> Venom> Wulf4-1-3-2> Preachin blues 4-1-4-1> Leipzig .. not working tactics: Parisian (inconsistant), Preachin blues 4-5-1(conceded much) and Scillian (lots of draws where i need to win)

Any better suggestion other than the aforementioned tactics? playing Watford and CSKA moscow next

 

Edited by tagaddin

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i'm using simpathyforthedevil in the beta and is working like a charm, only exception for the two strikers, can't make them work. Now i'm trying to tweak to change that. The defence is very reliable.

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2 minutes ago, dBianchin said:

i'm using simpathyforthedevil in the beta and is working like a charm, only exception for the two strikers, can't make them work. Now i'm trying to tweak to change that. The defence is very reliable.

Maybe they are cut out too much (besides the usual beta engine problems), i'd recommend to try them as CFs(s) or CFs(a)

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Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108  (predicted 19th)

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Edited by knap

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14 minutes ago, knap said:

Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108  (predicted 19th)

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great results, looking good! With Norwich, so it is a underdog tactic?

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It was the high tempo version.

Is there any tactics that anyone would like tested in the Beta?

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24 minutes ago, knap said:

It was the high tempo version.

Is there any tactics that anyone would like tested in the Beta?

Pure 442 formations like FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA

 

Edited by Dreambuilder

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Venom Wulf and Beowulf have been tested and still working in Beta. As not tested by me I will see if I can get the results.

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Hey Knap - what would you say is the best 4231 or similar for Newcastle? Struggled with some other tactics.

 

Also, noob question but how do I check what version of the game I'm running, either 20.1 etc etc? Sorry quite new to fm.

 

Thanks

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1 minute ago, RossGib900 said:

 

 

Also, noob question but how do I check what version of the game I'm running, either 20.1 etc etc? Sorry quite new to fm.

 

Thanks

Click on FM/Click About Football Manager. 

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3 hours ago, knap said:

Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108  (predicted 19th)

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Have you played Full games or IR/Holiday?

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зачем тестировать, когда едешь в отпуск?вы играете результаты как-то хуже

online translation:

why test when you go on vacation? do you play the results somehow worse

Edited by KUBI
added online translation

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7 hours ago, knap said:

Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108  (predicted 19th)

1894840567_Screenshot(368).thumb.png.5e08fd9a5677186ebb8722c2ce538f92.png

 

 

@knap

where is the tactic ???  pls help thanks

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20 hours ago, knap said:

 

@Ewan0404

 

Were you not using your own tactic? I would try that first in the Beta as the beta is a different.

I was and its still not working. 

What's the best tactic you have for the beta? 

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