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A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics)              OVERALL     SUB TOP UNDERDOG           OVERALL SUB TOP   UNDERDOG

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101                                                                                   1                   7                        1                         3               4             6

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222                                                                                             2                  1                      14

FM 20.2.3  ARGUS 3322                                                                                              3                 3                      16        

FM 20 ARGUS 352                                                                                                        4                 19                      4                         1                3               2

FM 20.2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451                                                                              5                 20                      3

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106                                                               12                 6                      17                         5               8                1

FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                                                             16                    9                      20                        2                 1             7

BEOWULF 442 P107                                                                                                  20                    21                      13                         4              5                 3

FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL        P101CC                                                               15                       27                     2                           6               6              5

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98                                                                                         6                       5                   15

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE balanced P102                                                                      8                    15                      8

FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2      P107ECFA                                                         7                   18                        6

FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141                                                                                        9                    16                        7

FM 20 BEOWULF 4411                                                                                                19                   12                    19                        7             7                  3

FM 20.2.3     PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231 IF     Best tested 4231                21                   22                    10                          8             2                9

FM 20 MILAN 4141                                                                                                      11                 17                      9                         9             9                  8

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442                                                                                               13                    2

FM 20 WULF 4132  P102ECCC                                                                                   10                    6

FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220                                                                                          18                 26                       5

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL2                                                                                   17                    11                    18

 FM20 WULF 4132 ALL CUPS                                                                                     23                       8

FM20 GOODBYE 4132                                                                                                   14                     10

FM 20.2.3 TIME 442                                                                                                      13                  14                      11

FM 20 PILGRIMAGE 41311                                                                                         11                   25                     12

FM20.2 STARGAZING 442P106ECFA                                                                        22                    4

FM 20.2.3 WULF 4132 P105ECCC                                                                             24                 13

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE                                                                                                                  23

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FM 20.2 Tactics

NEW TACTICS

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P108

FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf45.03 kB · 0 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P102

FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP102ECCC.fmf45.02 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 343

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap343P101FACC.fmf43 kB · 102 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451

FM20.2.3451KnapPreachinBluesP102FA.fmf44.89 kB · 164 downloads

FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 4141

FM20.2.34141KnapPreachinBluesP100EC.fmf44.92 kB · 0 downloads

FM 20.2.3 ARGUS 3322

FM20.2.3ARGUSknap3322P105.fmf43.19 kB · 84 downloads

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE 4132 DROPPED DL

FM20.2.3GOODBYEbalanced4132APDLKnapP102.fmf45.27 kB · 77 downloads

 

FM20.2 SICILIAN P101

FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL LEIPZIG

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.

442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top ) 

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf45.01 kB · 39 downloads

ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads

WULF 4132 P106

FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads

OXFORD 41221

FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads

BEOWULF 442 P107

FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads

NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101

FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads

FM 20.2.3 BEOWULF 4411

FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf44.81 kB · 6 downloads

 

WULF 4141 P103 (top sub top underdog)

FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads

 

FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141

959227044_Milankanp4141v2NEW!!.fmf45.03 kB · 1 download

FM 20.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231

FM20.2.34231KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkwaysvP101FA.fmf44.92 kB · 7 downloads

FM20.2.3KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkways4231IWP97.fmf44.92 kB · 5 downloads

FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100

FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf44.87 kB · 732 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106

FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf45.03 kB · 911 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95

FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads

 

 

 

FM 20.1 Tactics RECOMMENDED LIST

WULF

4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 522 downl

4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102  (Top Sub top underdog)

FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBAPDLPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf45.19 kB · 406 downloadsoads

442 P102

FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 553 downloads

4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top

FM20Tequilasunrise442.knaplassTHP93EC.fmf44.98 kB · 152 downloads

442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98

FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads

ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads

BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top)

FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 59 downloads

BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top)

FM20BLUEMATTER433KnapP105FACC.fmf43.28 kB · 372 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL

442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top )

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf44.91 kB · 957 downloads

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaip4132P102ECFA.fmf45.04 kB · 144 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol24132P97ECFATHP91.fmf45.04 kB · 95 downloads

4132 GOODBYE P101

FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads

BLUE MATTER 451 P98

FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads

WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads

442 (sub top) Bayer 04

19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads

WULF 4141

FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads

WULF 4231 P102 ECCC

FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads

41311 Leeds

FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads

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Milan invited me for the third season. I came there after a 0-1 defeat by Sampdoria and put it PreachinBlues 4-1-4-1. In the match with Atalanta (2-2) I used Simpathy 20.2.3 - missed 2 goals, leading in the score 2-0.
For me the perfect tactics PreachinBlues 4-1-4-1 and Argus 3322 because my players STRANGLE the rival players with these tactics.

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Defenders have many yellow cards. 62 of 115 defenders in yellow :)

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Posted (edited)

Yellows are fine red are awkward but a good SUS normal saves the day.

Edited by knap

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@knap Was crushing every team in league with tactic FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC (with Osijek, Feyenoord and Leipzig) but could lose noname in EL in play-off round. What's wrong with this tactic, how can i change it? Using IR

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Has something changed this weekend? Played until friday and i was top of the league undefeated and qualified to the 2nd round Europa League. Started today the March month and it is what you can see...

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I assume you updated to latest version before Friday. Did you turn the game of completely?

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3 minutos atrás, knap disse:

I assume you updated to latest version before Friday. Did you turn the game of completely?

I always do, and i always have steam online, i have updated the day the patch come out... 

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I know a few people had a change in fortune on the patch update. FM Base actually re tested a few tactics pre and post patch and the results were are within 3% of the original test. My theory is the "luck factor" testers call RNG is somehow reset on any reboot.

If you have a save from Friday it may be interesting just to replay those games a couple of times to see whether there is a variation in results.

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There are a couple of tactics I have not posted like 4 2 DM 31 and 4 3 DM 21

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I think to have found the right way with Beowulf 107 plt 442 and the new simpathy 108 pt

for away games i usually drop the mentality to positive or balanced and switch it during the game to cautious or defensive if needed.

Changing the mentality will help to decrease counter Attacks and long balls.

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Milan invited me for the third season. I came there after a 0-1 defeat by Sampdoria and put it PreachinBlues 4-1-4-1. After draw against Atalanta (1-1 06.03.22) set Preachin Blues 4-5-1. I haven 't lost once for Milan since I came. Won the Italian Cup and the Euro Cup. In Serie A took 3 place due to a large handicap by the time of arrival. In each match my players STRANGLE players of the rival. All matches in Instant Result. 

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1 saat önce, knap said:

There are a couple of tactics I have not posted like 4 2 DM 31 and 4 3 DM 21

i will be waiting with excitement ;)

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Has a red card after 3 mins against MC.

Used Defensive in a 4401 and regroup hold shape and stopped them scoring for 87mins.

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Has bee tested but could be improved, perhaps based on Parisienne.

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Been using the Parissienne tactic as I want a 4-2-3-1 shape as well, doing decently with my Hull City side in the Premier league but not amazing. We are underdogs and currently in 10th place with half the season gone, which is definitely out-performing. But not able to build any consistency in results. 

Also on this save and the last one too I have noticed an over-reliance on the striker, currently my sole striker (probably also my best player - Brewster) has 25 goals by January, the next best tally after him is just 5 goals. The AM Bradley Dack is doing okay, but the wingers have been average with around 3-4 goals & assists each. These are Medeiros on the right and Watkins on the left, both very well suited to IF or IW roles. 

In my last save I had a similar issue with Jack Marriott playing SC and scoring all the goals, while the likes of Bowen & Lawrence playing IW positions were struggling to get more than say 1 in every 4 games. 

It seems to me like the current ME is hugely over-powered towards strikers which would explain why most of the good tactics have 2 up-front, but is there any way to get the midfielders scoring more regularly? I would ideally like my 3 attacking midfielders to all hit double figures so the goals are more spread around.

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12 hours ago, knap said:

Screenshot for 42DM31

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why such a huge variance in the D line between Parisienne and this one?

won't much higher become exposed to the balls over the top?

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Parisienne is the best tested 4231, but in general the 4231 formation is probably the hardest to get to work well.

Par1s tweaked this formation and can probably provide a lot more detail.

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Hi knap, how are you? I'm going to start a new season, and I wanted to know if you had made progress in updating 433 BlueMatter with 3 striker.
If you have to put it online I wait before I start. Thank you

 
 
 

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I like to test Sicilian in the most unlikely leagues. Like Uzbekistan :D

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Undefeated plus cup winner (predicted 3rd). The great Uzbek hope:

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As I previously said, I feel pretty confident that with some decent squad building Sicilian (and the 442 variants) can massively overachieve at any level. Hopefully next patch will allow AMC to do AMC things in a 4231 or 4312. Until then Sicilian is easily my top choice.

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Any thoughts on tactics table. Also check example 1043 as this will link to screenshot as well as tactic.

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As mentioned before, I'm happy to take my turn.

Still missing the latest as not been posted yet.

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So i started the season with the sunrise tactics but something wasn't clicking, was getting chances but just didnt feel the tactics was the same especially after i won the title a season before with it. So i switched to sympathy after my 2-0 loss to Barca and the rest is pretty much in the screenshots. the only reason i got knocked out by barca in the champs league was a glitch that made me Dc while winning 2-0 at home, i didnt join back and some how the match ended 2-2 (i am not the host of the online save)  and altered my results but oo well there is next season. For those that will notice the friendlies during the season, it was a world cup year and it somehow took place during the season.  Currently over 43 games unbeaten. Thanks Knap

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Just wanted to ask, could it be that majority of these tactics perform better when you play the game on instant result? 

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I've not used instant result since 2016, and that was only because it was a testing requirement.

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