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9 minutes ago, Dreambuilder said:

Do you manage mentality or just plug n play all the way? =)

 

That depends. Against smaller teams, if I'm in the lead, I just stick with it. If I'm chasing a game, I go very attacking until I get an equaliser, and go back to attacking then. Against bigger opponents I like to go defensive or very defensive if I'm in the lead with one or two goals, with 10-15 minutes left on the clock. When I'm behind, I just keep it on attacking as very attacking seems to backfire too often against stronger opponents.

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25 minutes ago, knap said:

Any other changes to defensive like adding time wasting?

No time wasting. I dabbled with it in my first season, but with time wasting I seem to concede far too many goals after around the 85 minute mark.

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6 minutes ago, Dannad24 said:

hello !

i have tried all tactic by knap but none work all are rubbish, why do they suck so much ?

The best tactic I have used is Raptor by TotalFootballFan nd I think everyone should use that !

Thanks mates

Ýou just joined 6 minutes ago. And the first thing you do, is support TFF. And use the same language he does.
Shocking... Well, no not really. Since you are allowed to do it now it seems.

Another screenshot to the SI Report Mail.

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I have had some success with taking off one of the strikers, and subbing on a DM in the Half Back position when trying to preserve a lead, but I need to do some more testing with that particular thing before I know whether it'll be worth using.

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I can’t say if Dannad is TFF trolling, surely he wouldn’t do that knowing he would most likely be banned, but one of his aliases on FMBase was called dannad.... you do the math.

Please keep the thread on topic, if you feel someone is in breach of forum rules report it. Thanks. 

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A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics)              OVERALL     SUB TOP UNDERDOG           OVERALL SUB TOP   UNDERDOG

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101                                                                                   1                   7                        1                         3               4             6

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222                                                                                             2                  1                      14

FM 20.2.3  ARGUS 3322                                                                                              3                 3                      16        

FM 20 ARGUS 352                                                                                                        4                 19                      4                         1                3               2

FM 20.2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451                                                                              5                 20                      3

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106                                                               12                 6                      17                         5               8                1

FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                                                             16                    9                      20                        2                 1             7

BEOWULF 442 P107                                                                                                  20                    21                      13                         4              5                 3

FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL        P101CC                                                               15                       27                     2                           6               6              5

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98                                                                                         6                       5                   15

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE balanced P102                                                                      8                    15                      8

FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2      P107ECFA                                                         7                   18                        6

FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141                                                                                        9                    16                        7

FM 20 BEOWULF 4411                                                                                                19                   12                    19                        7             7                  3

FM 20.2.3     PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231 IF     Best tested 4231                21                   22                    10                          8             2                9

FM 20 MILAN 4141                                                                                                      11                 17                      9                         9             9                  8

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442                                                                                               13                    2

FM 20 WULF 4132  P102ECCC                                                                                   10                    6

FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220                                                                                          18                 26                       5

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL2                                                                                   17                    11                    18

 FM20 WULF 4132 ALL CUPS                                                                                     23                       8

FM20 GOODBYE 4132                                                                                                   14                     10

FM 20.2.3 TIME 442                                                                                                      13                  14                      11

FM 20 PILGRIMAGE 41311                                                                                         11                   25                     12

FM20.2 STARGAZING 442P106ECFA                                                                        22                    4

FM 20.2.3 WULF 4132 P105ECCC                                                                             24                 13

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE                                                                                                                  23

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Sicilian still doing great in my Ajax (South Africa, newly promoted) save:

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Star striker on fire:

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I might switch to a 4132 to see if AMC types can thrive in the MC/AP role (usually retrain AMC's to become wingers in the 442).

 

 

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34 minuti fa, knap ha scritto:

A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics)              OVERALL     SUB TOP UNDERDOG           OVERALL SUB TOP   UNDERDOG

FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101                                                                                   1                   7                        1                         3               4             6

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222                                                                                             2                  1                      14

FM 20.2.3  ARGUS 3322                                                                                              3                 3                      16        

FM 20 ARGUS 352                                                                                                        4                 19                      4                         1                3               2

FM 20.2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451                                                                              5                 20                      3

FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112)      P106                                                               12                 6                      17                         5               8                1

FM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221       OXFORD                                                             16                    9                      20                        2                 1             7

BEOWULF 442 P107                                                                                                  20                    21                      13                         4              5                 3

FM 20.2 NORTHERN SOUL        P101CC                                                               15                       27                     2                           6               6              5

FM 20 SICILIAN  4222 P98                                                                                         6                       5                   15

FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE balanced P102                                                                      8                    15                      8

FM 20 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2      P107ECFA                                                         7                   18                        6

FM 20.1 FM 20 WULF 4141                                                                                        9                    16                        7

FM 20 BEOWULF 4411                                                                                                19                   12                    19                        7             7                  3

FM 20.2.3     PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231 IF     Best tested 4231                21                   22                    10                          8             2                9

FM 20 MILAN 4141                                                                                                      11                 17                      9                         9             9                  8

FM 20 SYMPATHY 442                                                                                               13                    2

FM 20 WULF 4132  P102ECCC                                                                                   10                    6

FM 20.2 WULF VOL 42220                                                                                          18                 26                       5

FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL2                                                                                   17                    11                    18

 FM20 WULF 4132 ALL CUPS                                                                                     23                       8

FM20 GOODBYE 4132                                                                                                   14                     10

FM 20.2.3 TIME 442                                                                                                      13                  14                      11

FM 20 PILGRIMAGE 41311                                                                                         11                   25                     12

FM20.2 STARGAZING 442P106ECFA                                                                        22                    4

FM 20.2.3 WULF 4132 P105ECCC                                                                             24                 13

FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE                                                                                                                  23

this is the strangest result

A few test results puts the order as follows (Excludes new tactics)              OVERALL     SUB TOP UNDERDOG           OVERALL SUB TOP   UNDERDOG

FM 20.2.3  ARGUS 3322                                                                                              3                 3                      16        

FM 20 ARGUS 352                                                                                                        4                 19                      4        

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1 hour ago, knap said:

  OVERALL     SUB TOP UNDERDOG           OVERALL SUB TOP   UNDERDOG

Any heads up on what these mean?  They are listed twice in knaps list with different ranking numbers (guess they are rankings).  But they appear to be the same category.  Just trying to make sure how to read this.  Thanks.

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There are 2 worthwhile independent tests  1st is FM Base who have tested more tactics than the 2nd MR L

Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics.

Top Club say 1-5 in League (Lpool MC etc)

Sub Top 6-11 in League

Underdog the rest

Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or

Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog

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10 hours ago, knap said:

Mentality changes are useful and hopefully anyone who uses them can post their favourite combinations for the benefit of others.

In my Juventus save very succesful was the combination of two mentalities, with a bit of tweaking during the matchplay. I decided to pick Oxford 41221 tactic, but with lower defensive line. All matches i started with cautious mentality as default, unless the assistant recommended a change (mostly switching to positive in home games against mid-table oppontents, or worse). 

When i watched a match, mostly i paid attention to the shots statistics.  When i saw after 15-20 minutes that my opponents getting a shooting opportunities too easily, i lowered mentality by 1, even to "defensive" in some away games. Maybe it wasn't the most entertaining football on Earth, but gave my many crucial victories, and definitely the best record of away wins in Serie A.

 Maybe it's just a coincidence, but finding the best partner for my offensive midfielder (Dybala) made me the biggest difficulty in Oxford tactic. Even Zaniolo didn't exceed the average rating of 6.90.

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SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P108

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SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P102

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FM 20 2.3 PREACHIN BLUES 451

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FM 20.2.3 GOODBYE 4132 DROPPED DL

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FM20.2 SICILIAN P101

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SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL LEIPZIG

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442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top ) 

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ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

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WULF 4132 P106

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OXFORD 41221

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BEOWULF 442 P107

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NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101

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FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141

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9 minutes ago, knap said:

FM 20.2 Tactics

NEW TACTICS

FM 20.2.3 BEOWULF 4411

FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf44.81 kB · 6 downloads

FM 20.2.3 MILAN 4141

959227044_Milankanp4141v2NEW!!.fmf45.03 kB · 1 download

FM 20.3 PARISIENNE WALKWAYS 4231

FM20.2.34231KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkwaysvP101FA.fmf44.92 kB · 7 downloads

FM20.2.3KnapPar1s ParisienneWaalkways4231IWP97.fmf44.92 kB · 5 downloads

FM 20.2.3 442 DEEP DL P100

FM20.2.2WULF442PFIWDLKnapP100.fmf44.87 kB · 732 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 442 P106

FM20.2STARGAZING442PFPWMSPKnapP1106ECFA.fmf45.03 kB · 911 downloads

FM 20.2 STARGAZING 4231 P95

FM20.2STARGAZINGKnap 4231P95.fmf44.8 kB · 768 downloads

FM20.2 SICILIAN P101

FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf45.11 kB · 437 downloads

OXFORD 41221

FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf45.1 kB · 882 downloads

BEOWULF 442 P107

FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS.fmf44.84 kB · 1,276 downloads

WULF 4132 P106

FM20.2WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20.2P106ECCC.fmf45.23 kB · 879 downloads

 

NORTHERN SOUL 532 P101

FM20.2NorthernSoulMRHKnap5-3-2P101CC.fmf45.36 kB · 872 downloads

FM 20.1 Tactics RECOMMENDED LIST

WULF

4132 WULF P102 (Top Sub top underdog)

FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 522 downl

4132 WULF ALL CUPS P102  (Top Sub top underdog)

FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBAPDLPKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf45.19 kB · 406 downloadsoads

4141 P103 (top sub top underdog)

FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 742 downloads

442 P102

FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 553 downloads

4132 TEQUILA SUNRISE TH 93 Sub Top

FM20Tequilasunrise442.knaplassTHP93EC.fmf44.98 kB · 152 downloads

442 DM SICILIAN DEFENCE P98

FM20SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP98ALLCUPS.fmf45.09 kB · 252 downloads

ARGUS 352 P103 EC CC

FM204ARGUSknap352P103ECCC.fmf43.17 kB · 263 downloads

BLUE MATTER 433 DM P98 (Top)

FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 59 downloads

BLUE MATTER 433 P105 (Top)

FM20BLUEMATTER433KnapP105FACC.fmf43.28 kB · 372 downloads

SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL

442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 (Top Sub top underdog) 

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol2442P103ECCC.fmf45.01 kB · 39 downloads

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.

442 Vol (4222) Sympathy for the Devil Vol 2 (Top Sub Top )

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzigvol2.fmf44.91 kB · 957 downloads

442 (4222) Sympathy for the Devil (Top sub top underdog)

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 812 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil P103

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaip4132P102ECFA.fmf45.04 kB · 144 downloads

4132 Sympathy for the Devil TH Version

FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipvol24132P97ECFATHP91.fmf45.04 kB · 95 downloads

4132 GOODBYE P101

FM20GOODBYE4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP101.fmf45.17 kB · 284 downloads

BLUE MATTER 451 P98

FM20BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC451IWFM20P102P98.fmf43.7 kB · 76 downloads

WULF 424 (Top Teams) MU Lpool P103

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101FM20P103.fmf44.71 kB · 215 downloads

442 (sub top) Bayer 04

19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53.fmf44.89 kB · 107 downloads

WULF 4141

FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf45.1 kB · 381 downloads

WULF 4231 P102 ECCC

FM20WULFKnap4231NEP102ECCC.fmf44.71 kB · 383 downloads

41311 Leeds

FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf45.16 kB · 31 downloads

There's many Wulf 4132 in the recommended list, is the first top one your most recommended Wulf?

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30 minutes ago, knap said:

Just trying to rearrange the list to be more in line with recommendations

Have you ever thought about using a Google Docs spreadsheet to present the list? Can then post the link here so everyone can always see the most up-to-date version. Can also add filters to find tactics with certain formations etc.

Lists posted here they often get lost and people quote them making it more confusing. 
 
Just a thought. 

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40 minutes ago, knap said:

Let me sort out the current lists first, and then if you can help with set up that would be great.

No worries, will keep an eye out for the sorted lists. Whenever you’re ready with the lists, tag/pm me and I’ll make a start. 

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Dear Knap,

 

With Monaco I succeed in winning the french league with most of your tactics but actually I never achieve to win champions league within 5 years. Could you please advice me fot the suitable tactic to take ? Only one if possible, I don t really like to have a hone and away tactic...especially when it is a 442 and 532 to alternate, to many players to have...even if it is Monaco  :-)

Thanks

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Hi Knap many thanks for your very good work. I love your last tactic FM20.2.3451KnapPreachinBluesP102.
Is it possible please make a 433 with 3 striker? I loved playing with this one that you yourself created in fm19. It would be great if you could do it.
A big thank you for everything and happy new year my friend
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Northern Argus 352 or Sicilian would be probably best options away. Maybe dropping mentality will help. A few posts back there are 2 ideas on using mentality.

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