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[monsalai]

Hi Knap! What's your most recent 4132? Cheers

[ilyes92300]

On 28/12/2019 at 17:02, Hakim82903 said:

Finally found a tactic that works. Went unbeaten 25+ games. Won Europa League, beat  Real madrid 3-0 in the final. Won Cara too

 

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907876223_FM20.2.34231KnapPar1sParisienneWaalkwaysvP101FA.fmf 44.92 kB · 184 downloads

 

Have you tested with weaker teams?

[knap]

No reason for anyone to test with weaker teams if they are happy with results.

If you want to test with weaker teams go ahead as it is your save

[deadclear]

Tested Argus with Liverpool. Won every single cup  

[knap]

4132 P106 has done well in both tests and GOOBYE 4132 is balanced wiyh a deeper DL

[ilyes92300]

Il y a 43 minutes, knap a déclaré:

Aucune raison pour que quiconque teste avec des équipes plus faibles s'il est satisfait des résultats.

Si vous voulez tester avec des équipes plus faibles, allez-y car c'est votre sauvegarde

I forced no one to use this tactic with a weaker team, I just asked a question .. And stop being arrogant like that!

[PitchPosh]

The Parisienne Walkways tactics have been producing some beautiful football even though my Man United team isn't fully familiar with it yet. Looking forward to seeing how it goes once it's fully trained.

Side note: are we back to every cross getting blocked again with this most recent update or am I imagining things? 

Thanks for all the hard work in putting tactics up consistently! 

[Par1s]

1 hour ago, ilyes92300 said:

 

Have you tested with weaker teams?

I tested with Mainz and I get 4th place first season only with loans and no transfers.

[knap]

Added best 4231 on testing

[bluenosejak]

Reckon tactical briefings handled by assistant or? 

[Paulinho26]

1 minuto atrás, knap disse:

Added best 4231 on testing

Can you share it here, so i could test it aswell ?

[knap]

It is in list Parisienne Walkways IF Version

[ilyes92300]

19 minutes ago, Par1s said:

J'ai testé avec Mayence et j'obtiens la 4e place la première saison uniquement avec des prêts et aucun transfert.

thanks bro  

[Heywood JaBlowme]

On 28/12/2019 at 22:13, cloneman said:

 

424.fmf 43.12 kB · 149 downloads

Only used this tactic for a few matches after I was scrambling to find something to get me over the line at the end of my 2025-26 season with A. Madrid and it worked. I won the La Liga title on the last day.

is this based off knap's 424 or is it from scratch? I used knap's 424 the first half of one of my seasons early with Liverpool and it was lethal. Then it stopped working after the Winter transfer window for some reason. 

I'm going to try this out next season. 

Touch Instant Result/No Match Plan

[knap]

Nothing to do with me!!

[Heywood JaBlowme]

knap, is a 424 update in the works or is a Double T possible this year? 

[knap]

Not sure about double T but I guess other formations  need updating. 424 looks workable as does 4420 or 3430.

[Heywood JaBlowme]

Still don’t understand why the 424 stopped working. Was like fireworks for me and then the next week it was like turning off a light switch. I had world class players there. 

[knap]

I would still use 442 p107

[ilyes92300]

1 hour ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

Only used this tactic for a few matches after I was scrambling to find something to get me over the line at the end of my 2025-26 season with A. Madrid and it worked. I won the La Liga title on the last day.

is this based off knap's 424 or is it from scratch? I used knap's 424 the first half of one of my seasons early with Liverpool and it was lethal. Then it stopped working after the Winter transfer window for some reason. 

I'm going to try this out next season. 

Touch Instant Result/No Match Plan

Hello ? Oi ? 

[Heywood JaBlowme]

59 minutes ago, ilyes92300 said:

Hello ? Oi ? 

It's not my tactic

[andypandy44]

Just had this match home against Bayern (defending champions). Using TributeToTheLegendKnapLaBombasStyle tactic for a little while now. Results looks very good so far, but still very early days. Fifth season with Schalke so my team is strong. Might consider putting it up for testing?

[William1985]

2nd season using the Argus tactic first season back in the premier league after winning the championship if not for the bad start to the season think I would have got a European place but I did play the bigger teams at the beginning then it seem to hit the ground running lol

[vins1977]

hi knap

i have test 3 tactics with lower teams very low

first sicilian not bad mid results but need too much tweaking for defence for my taste

beowulf 442 p107 very good offence even with lower teams even sometimes against greater team with some good results but bad defence at least for lower team and for my taste

and finally argus 352 with the best results at least for my taste a few loses(but very weak team especially in offence against stronger teams) some draws (some were even against stronger teams)and some wins

it was all friendlies but i'd like the results mostly from argus and p107

now if the new argus is better than the first it could be great even for lower teams

[NeoShootxr]

Probs not the place to ask this, but can anyone tell me the difference between FM Base and FM Arena's testing processes and why the results are so different?

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, NeoShootxr said:

Probs not the place to ask this, but can anyone tell me the difference between FM Base and FM Arena's testing processes and why the results are so different?

I hope Knap doesn't mind, but the differences can be found in this post - Difference Between The Testing Leagues

[Corei]

Any working 4-1-2-3 DM Wide, lone striker formation tactic?

[Lloydey1]

On 28/12/2019 at 13:27, DavyDepuydt1 said:

I've created a traditional 433 tweak based on the TIME tactic. (4-1-2-3 DM Wide, lone striker formation)

The reason i used the TIME tactic as a base is because it uses (almost) no PI's, and uses very usefull roles already that can stay the same in a 433 dm wide, so I knew that most of the things knap got working very well in the TIME tactic would still work in a 433.

I was very succesfull:

• Won league with man city, best in clean sheets and topscorer aguero, and best average
• Won league with PSG, best in clean sheets, best average list filled with almost all my players
• won the league in belgian 3rd division (2nd in league but won promotion playoff) with team predicted dead last and had best clean sheet stats
• lone striker is scoring a lot and uses the AF role, which is a quite common role for most top strikers
• playmaker like de bruyne shines in his natural role
•  Standard def line, so your not getting caught by balls over the top
•  Frequently winning the possession battle (51-54% on average with the three teams I've tested, so both good and bad teams keep possession)
• No "tackle harder" or "get stuck in", so this avoids tons of yellows & reds
•  All results were holidayed in FMT with 'use current match tactics' and OI set to manager so no OI's were used. I didn't select the team, so results would be even better when human manager make selection every weak and applies rotation when needed

I'm not saying it's as good as knap's tactics, but it's the first traditional 433 DM wide that got me this good results at so much different levels (so for me it's really plug & play).

So I would recommend it for people who want a more tradional 433 instead of all the 422 variants and don't care if it might not be the record-scoring nr 1 tactic of FM20

All credits to Knap offcourse, I just shifted some positions, roles an TI's

433_Davautje_BasedOnTIME_AF.fmf 45.05 kB · 405 downloads

Is this tactic on FM Base / being tested fully? I have started using it with good results (but I am Man Utd). It suits Pogba (AP A) and Bruno Fernandes (MEZ A) but I have been tweaking the wingers to IF or IW. Any views on that?

[knap]

If you go to "RESOURCE" Tab on FM Base it will tell you the state of testing. It is still pending test.

[DavyDepuydt1]

@Lloydey I haven't uploaded or requested testing on FM-Base, it was just a tactic I made based on Knap's TIME tactic and I wanted to share it in this topic because atm I find that no other 433DM is really worth using.
I've run about 5 holiday season tests myself to made sure it wasn't trash before I uploaded it here.

If someone feels it's worthy to be uploaded on fm-base and be tested, feel free to do so, but keep in mind to mention knap as well, I've only done the tweaks.

about changing to IF instead of wingers, at real madrid I run a test where hazard was IF-S instead of W-A , and I changed the other flank from W-S to W-A and the tactic did work perfectly to (Won la liga and CL in a holiday season on FMT with real madrid)

[DavyDepuydt1]

1 hour ago, Corei said:

Any working 4-1-2-3 DM Wide, lone striker formation tactic?

I've created one based on one of Knap's tactics, check bottom of page 99, or 2 comments above this, someone quoted my post

[knap]

It would be better if permission is requested first, but I have no problems with description and as long as you don't mind tactic being tested, all is good. 

 

https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/433-basedontime-knap-davydepuydt1.273/

[Leeboy]

16 hours ago, Dreambuilder said:

Lol, sacked for what reasons? Thanks for sharing and I wish you much better luck! I would try one of the Wulf4132, it's quite stable.

Poor performance for me with EFC

Finishing 15 or lower in each of the seasons 

[knap]

Can I check that all training press team talks etc are being handled by AM?

[Lloydey1]

36 minutes ago, DavyDepuydt1 said:

@Lloydey I haven't uploaded or requested testing on FM-Base, it was just a tactic I made based on Knap's TIME tactic and I wanted to share it in this topic because atm I find that no other 433DM is really worth using.
I've run about 5 holiday season tests myself to made sure it wasn't trash before I uploaded it here.

If someone feels it's worthy to be uploaded on fm-base and be tested, feel free to do so, but keep in mind to mention knap as well, I've only done the tweaks.

about changing to IF instead of wingers, at real madrid I run a test where hazard was IF-S instead of W-A , and I changed the other flank from W-S to W-A and the tactic did work perfectly to (Won la liga and CL in a holiday season on FMT with real madrid)

Super helpful thank you. I’m going to keep going with it. Really like how it works for my squad. 

 

Equally i I agree with you all that the ME this year seems very odd - a backward step viewing wise IMHO

[rammalc]

On 28/12/2019 at 13:27, DavyDepuydt1 said:

I've created a traditional 433 tweak based on the TIME tactic. (4-1-2-3 DM Wide, lone striker formation)

The reason i used the TIME tactic as a base is because it uses (almost) no PI's, and uses very usefull roles already that can stay the same in a 433 dm wide, so I knew that most of the things knap got working very well in the TIME tactic would still work in a 433.

I was very succesfull:

• Won league with man city, best in clean sheets and topscorer aguero, and best average
• Won league with PSG, best in clean sheets, best average list filled with almost all my players
• won the league in belgian 3rd division (2nd in league but won promotion playoff) with team predicted dead last and had best clean sheet stats
• lone striker is scoring a lot and uses the AF role, which is a quite common role for most top strikers
• playmaker like de bruyne shines in his natural role
•  Standard def line, so your not getting caught by balls over the top
•  Frequently winning the possession battle (51-54% on average with the three teams I've tested, so both good and bad teams keep possession)
• No "tackle harder" or "get stuck in", so this avoids tons of yellows & reds
•  All results were holidayed in FMT with 'use current match tactics' and OI set to manager so no OI's were used. I didn't select the team, so results would be even better when human manager make selection every weak and applies rotation when needed

I'm not saying it's as good as knap's tactics, but it's the first traditional 433 DM wide that got me this good results at so much different levels (so for me it's really plug & play).

So I would recommend it for people who want a more tradional 433 instead of all the 422 variants and don't care if it might not be the record-scoring nr 1 tactic of FM20

All credits to Knap offcourse, I just shifted some positions, roles an TI's

433_Davautje_BasedOnTIME_AF.fmf 45.05 kB · 409 downloads

Still going strong with this , now 20 unbeaten in the Prem and sitting top in February . Nothing changed at all just a simple plug'n'play 

[christrott79]

On 28/12/2019 at 13:27, DavyDepuydt1 said:

I've created a traditional 433 tweak based on the TIME tactic. (4-1-2-3 DM Wide, lone striker formation)

The reason i used the TIME tactic as a base is because it uses (almost) no PI's, and uses very usefull roles already that can stay the same in a 433 dm wide, so I knew that most of the things knap got working very well in the TIME tactic would still work in a 433.

I was very succesfull:

• Won league with man city, best in clean sheets and topscorer aguero, and best average
• Won league with PSG, best in clean sheets, best average list filled with almost all my players
• won the league in belgian 3rd division (2nd in league but won promotion playoff) with team predicted dead last and had best clean sheet stats
• lone striker is scoring a lot and uses the AF role, which is a quite common role for most top strikers
• playmaker like de bruyne shines in his natural role
•  Standard def line, so your not getting caught by balls over the top
•  Frequently winning the possession battle (51-54% on average with the three teams I've tested, so both good and bad teams keep possession)
• No "tackle harder" or "get stuck in", so this avoids tons of yellows & reds
•  All results were holidayed in FMT with 'use current match tactics' and OI set to manager so no OI's were used. I didn't select the team, so results would be even better when human manager make selection every weak and applies rotation when needed

I'm not saying it's as good as knap's tactics, but it's the first traditional 433 DM wide that got me this good results at so much different levels (so for me it's really plug & play).

So I would recommend it for people who want a more tradional 433 instead of all the 422 variants and don't care if it might not be the record-scoring nr 1 tactic of FM20

All credits to Knap offcourse, I just shifted some positions, roles an TI's

433_Davautje_BasedOnTIME_AF.fmf 45.05 kB · 416 downloads

Pipped on goal difference by Man City on the last day!

Most enjoyable 1st season I have had with Spurs yet with any tactic, just feels right if that makes sense

[rammalc]

i'm having the same feeling Chris , not having to worry much about home or away tactic just keep an eye on the players on the day . Don't have to be too afraid to pull a slacker off even in the 1st half as and change seems to be positive , even the old FM19 adage of giving them a roasting at half time even if winning 1-0 seems to work and they kick on in the 2nd .

 

Not being naive to think i'll win the League but the foundation of snapping up young talent in the 1st season is paying dividends now as the top teams are sniffing round them but hoping a top 3 or 4 finish will enable me to keep them . Might just be me but i do feel in FM20 there seems to be way less loyalty to the Club than in previous versions

[Muslera0609]

On 18.10.2019 at 12:24, knap said:

Target Man Tactic

This is the P(103) p106 442 but with a TM instead of AF.

!!!!!!!19.3.56BEOWULF442WTMAFKnapSP103EC.fmf 44 kB · 216 downloads

 

hi everyone and @knap. Can you say me the best tactic for top team and LL ?

[knap]

FM 19 There is a List in OP with top tactics at WULF 4132 P112.

I test in LL with Kingstonian  (Dafuge challenge team) - Those tactics with LL won VNS with over 100pts

[Muslera0609]

15 dakika önce, knap said:

FM 19 There is a List in OP with top tactics at WULF 4132 P112.

I test in LL with Kingstonian  (Dafuge challenge team) - Those tactics with LL won VNS with over 100pts

Do they work for 19.3.6?

[knap]

No ME changes since 19.3

[emrekekec]

@knap 

What's the best tactic?

[Leeboy]

2 hours ago, knap said:

Can I check that all training press team talks etc are being handled by AM?

yes mate

[earthomac1]

Mr.knap this mean all 19.3 tactics can work with fm 20 right ? cuz of no ME change.

[wagabunda]

I'm surprised that the new Argus did better for sub-top in FM Base test than for underdog (comparing to Argus first version). I expected it would be the opposite as the new one looks for me like a more defensive formation.

[bluenosejak]

5 hours ago, knap said:

Can I check that all training press team talks etc are being handled by AM?

Would you let AM handle tactical briefings? 

[knap]

I am using FM 19.3 Ttic on FM 20 but the ME is different as atm FM 20.2.3

The MEs are FM 19.1 19.2 19.3 20.1 20,2

[knap]

Up to you how much or little you want AM to carry out.

Sometimes a tactic fails to work, the game is sent to me, I leave it to AM and tactic starts working. I therefore just check that a tactic is not working because of non tactical inputs.

I leave it all to AM apart from Shouts and OIs and it is even easier in FMT.

[emraaa]

You love to see it

EDIT: Won 6:1 and 5:2

Spoiler

 

Edited December 31, 2019 by emraaa