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I played 1ย seasonย with different tactics, and I can say that the best formations so far is 5-3-2 and 3-4-3. 3-4-3 is very good, but the defense in some matches misses a lot. 5-3-2 has excellent defense and attack. All defeats and almost all draws were with tactics with 4 defenders and with wingers. Especially in my save manyย teams playing 5-3-2 achieved excellent results in season. Something tells me that FM 20 will be similar to FM 18 on the criterion of the best formation. Wingers not as strong as FM 19.ย 

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31 minutes ago, knap said:

In Steam Beta tab

ME 2016

Cheers.

That the 4132 ?

First pic is this season before update. 2nd is first match after..

Less trough balls, less accuracy on long shots. More crosses from byline. Less finishing from sharp angels.

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Hmm. One second there I almost thought the "public beta" is FM19 ME.

Look at the screenshots.

Last 50 games before update to public beta: 17 corner goals.
First 10 games after update to public beta: 8 corner goals.

Same tactic. So i guess tweaked setup for 4132 suddently works @knap
And the tactic as well. 10 games, goal difference 36-0...

Maybe no need to make new tactic for FM20 :)

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You are OK to post link. Feedback is appreciated when using these tactics.

I've seen good results with Deep Sicilian Defence as well.Generally the recommended tactics are working, or at least to 19th.

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56 minutes ago, knap said:

Looks good.

Somewhat baffled by not being available in full game but an Instant Result Skin works fine and has done so far many years.

you should see the thread they had to close down when people questioned them about it lol. i read most of it and i must admit, i fail to side with the reasons why it's not available in the full game. They didn't really give a reason

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They implied it could cause problems which is fair enough, but I don't know how a skin does not appear to cause problems.

Not a problem as the skin is available for those that want to use it. Always used in testingย  in SM16

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Depends if the 424 P108 from recommended list. If so it worked well with Kingstonian in FM 19. However, may not work with a poor LL side.

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Heres my take using the latest match engine (you need to update to public beta).

Knaps tactics before the update were working worse, tried and tested ones in FM19 failed.

In the public beta (and introduction to ME2016) have fixed these issues mostly and his tactics are solid again.

Lesson to be learnt here is don't rely on tactics until the game is released, I don't think many tweaks will have to be made to the ME by Knap (or anyone for that matter) this year.

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The public beta should now be the beta ME. I did tweak tactics for original Beta and then changed them back for public beta, which then was rolled out as the Beta 20.1

I am no longer on Public Beta as it is only 19th ME that matters.

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14 minutes ago, knap said:

The public beta should now be the beta ME. I did tweak tactics for original Beta and then changed them back for public beta, which then was rolled out as the Beta 20.1

I am no longer on Public Beta as it is only 19th ME that matters.

Can 100% second this.

Trying to figure out away to make this more consistent in terms of playing away games / stronger opposititon.
Tried just tweaking mentalities but that was a disaster (tried cautious / defensive).

Trying out a few other things to, but might be a case of potentially switching the CMs/DMs around to have 2 DMs when away which is my next logical step.

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The game is definitely more testing for underdogs. Before you could grind out unrealistic wins with 4-1-3-1 but now you still get trounced by good opposition.

On the other hand, these tactics work betterย against weaker opposition.

But there are still stupid mistakes in the game, Martinez for Liverpool has 51 goals to his name this year and the season hasn't even finished yet..

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20 minutes ago, knap said:

Sicilian Defence is a 2 DM system

Aye, I was testing the one with Inverted Wingers in AML/AMR.

As an example I made a couple of tweaks and finished third with Norwich (no transfers and holidayed the season with AssMan in charge but using the tactic).
I know this isn't the most reliable as he'll use OIs during matches; however Norwich finished 3rd that season and was in the FA Cup Final.

They got ruined by away games usually against bigger teams.

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If you are in charge of OIs the Ass Man should not use them.

I would say a good result with Norwich. I have seen MC win PL with 103 pts so virtually impossible to win PL if MC and Lpool hit form.

Sometimes worth trying a SUS Tactic for very difficult away games.

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The FM 19 top tactics are considered to be

P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under)ย (recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmfย 45.32 kB ยท 116 downloadsPI

PILGRIMAGE 4141 P106 ALLCUPS NO LOSS (Newcastle PL and FA Cup Win)

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapCD4141P106ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf45.19 kB ยท 215 downloads

Wolves Tactic 4132 (PL Win)ย (Recommended for LL )

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBIWSPKnapWOLVESP95KINGP112.fmf45.34 kB ยท 122 downloads

Wolves Tactic Goodbye 4132 (PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5GOODBYE4132PFDWSPKnapP108ALLCUPSNOLOSSWOLVESPL.fmf45.41 kB ยท 63 downloads

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P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under)

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!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmfย 45.14 kB ยท 85 downloadsย 

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P112

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmfย 44.96 kB ยท 72 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

P110

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmfย 44.96 kB ยท 134 downloads

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P108 no loss 4411 (top)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmfย 45.25 kB ยท 46 downloads

P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub)

!!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmfย 45.23 kB ยท 41 downloads

P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_

!!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmfย 44.96 kB ยท 43 downloads

Updated for 19.3.5

(P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109 (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf45.01 kB ยท 1,018 downloads

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PILGRIMAGE 4141 AWAY Tactic (underdog tactic)

!!!!FM19.3.4PILGRIMAGE4141KnapP107EC.fmf44.1 kB ยท 113 downloads

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WULF 4141

!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB ยท 92 downloads

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PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs)๏ปฟ

The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109

Other tactics

4132

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB ยท 144 downloads

41221 Oxford

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB ยท 98 downloads

4411

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB ยท 78 downloads

41311

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB ยท 80 downloads

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451

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB ยท 93 downloads

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442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS

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ADDITIONAL TACTICS

4141 Solounamigoย  AWAYv4 (Top, Sub and Under)ย Recommended for LL

AWAYv4_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104.fmf45.28 kB ยท 129 downloads

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4132 AP Matiz (Top Sub)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102.fmf45.36 kB ยท 144 downloads

442 Matiz (Top Sub and Under)ย Recommended for LL

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULFKnapMatizWPF442P104ALLCUPS.fmf44.98 kB ยท 200 downloads

4231 DM VOL

4231 DM VOL

!FM19.3.5BEOWULF4231DMVOLKnapP102ALLCUPS.fmf44.9 kB ยท 66 downloads

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4141 IWB

!!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4141P107.fmf45.21 kB ยท 36 downloads

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SALAH TACTIC

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP104ALLCUPSSALAH.fmf45.32 kB ยท 125 downloads

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HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

10 SEASON TACTIC (Wolves PL Win)

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBSPKnapP109ALLCUPSNOLOSS10SEASONS.fmf45.28 kB ยท 80 downloads

MU 7 SEASON TACTICย  INVERTED WINGER (TOP and UNDER) (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFIWKnapP110ECCCMU7SEASONS.fmf44.94 kB ยท 44 downloads

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TH 12 SEASON TACTIC P108

!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapTHP108.fmf45.29 kB ยท 78 downloads

424 IF P108ย (Recommended for LL)

!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424IFKnapP108ECCCKINGP101.fmf44.75 kB ยท 91 downloads

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HOLIDAY SEASON TACTICS

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!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)Kn

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The independent tests usually sorts out the best all round tactic but it is not usual to be best in all categories. Also depends on whether one particular formation is way better than anything else.

I would actually still go for 4132 but 4141 may be in with a shout.

What tactics are you using/find working?

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42 minutes ago, knap said:

The independent tests usually sorts out the best all round tactic but it is not usual to be best in all categories. Also depends on whether one particular formation is way better than anything else.

I would actually still go for 4132 but 4141 may be in with a shout.

What tactics are you using/find working?

I found the 442 to work a bit better than the 4132, but I have just started using the 4141 and it is defensively more solid that both the 442 and 4132.

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I tried the 4132 tactic with my CL and PL winning Spurs side and I really struggled. The worst result being a 3-1 away loss against Wolves. Fine at home, but it wasn't giving me the results I needed away from home.ย 

I'm actually struggling a little bit to find anything that works consistently after the latest update on FM20.ย 

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