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SUS Tactics a few posts up. I would try the BEOWULF 442 or MIDSOMER together with BEOWULF 4231 and for a get a goal tactic BEOWULF 424

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Just ignore roles the MU forwards are an odd shade of orange, in fact only 3 green roles in eleven.

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im just about to face man city in the cup should I chane the mentality or just go for it edit changed it to balanced beat them 1-0 :}

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currently 12 games unbeaten top of the championship strikers not scoring loads ive got adams sorloth trotta and jutkiewicz

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Wow. 36-2-0! Gonna try this Beowulf442 out in my next game. Gotta love 4-4-2 for the immersion! Thanks Knap! As someone else stated, we love you :)

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my forwards are really struggling to score although im  still unbeaten adams and trotta have only 7 jutkiewicz 4 and sorloth 2 any ideas how I can change this

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9 hours ago, norrelschip said:

Can you add a screenshot of goal/assist distribution for the new 442 110pt?

 

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KNAP HAS DONE IT AGAIN!! won the league 1st season with West Ham! won it on the last day, should've actually won it earlier but injuries killed me (screenshot to see). also had to sell deadwood and sign players because of injuries. Alfredo Morelos won me the title coming in January and scored every game he played. Also done my own individual training as you can see in screenshots too (don't know if it makes major difference) also done my own training, basically just used Training Style - Catenaccio during the season

Enjoying your tactics knap!

 

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Made some changes to  the 424 press and its working for me (minor changes tho)

Attacking to balanced

Changed both central defenders to BPD-stopper

Pulled back deffensive line to standard changed defensive width to standard   left offside trap on

GK in possession distribute quickly and distribution type throw it long

Curr 1st in championship with leeds beaten arsenal at home 4-0 carabo cup
 

Anyway thanks for the tactic knap!

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Do you think it would matter much if I changed one of the wingers to an inverted winger?

I love the 442 but I have two quality left-footed wingers and I would like to play them both. :/

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If you change the set up then you are in untested territory, so yo need to monitor how it plays and the results

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We need someone to set up test league with knowledge of pre game editor.

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Hi Knap, thanks again for the many great tactics provided. Do you think the 442 110P could work with the false nines changed to advance forwards?

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I assume any ME changes will be in next few weeks with next patch

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Beowulf 424 press working great in Brazil lower leagues.

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Every brazilian team has at least two DM's so a formation with two strikers and no AMC works best here. Serie C clubs play very defensively against us so 20+ shots and 20+ corners per game are quite common. Both strikers scoring a lot which is nice, goals are coming mostly from high press, fast break and long balls, or corners of course! Also managed to beat some Serie B and Serie A clubs in the cup using the more conservative 442 after taking the lead. Thanks knap for the best set of tactics under current ME.

 

 

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The concern I had with lower leagues with a Press tactic was fatigue, if this is not the case then all the tactics should work in LL subject to squad quality.

These AI DM Tactics are a bit of a concern as appears to be a method of papering over cracks in ME. Chelsea use a back 4 and 3 DMs as a starting tactic.

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From Top dog to Under dog

BEOWULF Press 4231 

BEOWULF Press 424

BEOWULF Press 4231 Narrow

BEOWULF 442

BLUE MATTER  Press 433

ARGUS Press 352

GOODBYE Press 3412

DARK SIDE 4231

PILGRIMAGE cautious 451

MIDSOMER  Press 442

MIDSOMER Std 442

VOLANTE BBM Press 4132

BEOWULF Press 451

BEOWULF Press Flat 451

BEOWULF Press 4141

VOLANTE 4222

VOLANTE Anchor

ARGUS Press 343

GOODBYE Press 343

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1 hour ago, knap said:

The concern I had with lower leagues with a Press tactic was fatigue, if this is not the case then all the tactics should work in LL subject to squad quality.

These AI DM Tactics are a bit of a concern as appears to be a method of papering over cracks in ME. Chelsea use a back 4 and 3 DMs as a starting tactic.

So the question is how to crack that defensive egg - 4 DC's and 3 DM's 

Had problems in FM18 too... in Italy against Sassuolo which played 3 DC's, 2WB's, 2 DM's (+2 IF's, 1 SC)

Hard to score a goal, yet concede at first and only opportunity from opposition (2 IF's + 1 SC)

Tactic solutions to implement during the game?

Lure them out by playing cautious, low block, not pressing, then wide attacking and quick counter with route one direct passing.

Or playing high aggressive press with direct pass and hard tackling.

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The testing I did indicated that a Press worked better. The problem is that the AI defence will not have forward runs and will just be looking for long ball,. Therefore they are not going to drawn out and adding width exposes defence more from long ball. With the current system the DL can be dropped while keeping a high press and defensive width can be keep narrow.

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In my experience press works better against defensive teams, because they can make some mistakes against high pressure leading to fast breaks, and most of all because this tends to result in lots of corners which are currently a pretty effective can opener (not unusual to see both CB's with 10+ goals in the season) especially when you get 20+ in a single match. It's going to be hard to find the right balance for next ME because the combination of very defensive AI mentality + multiple DM's  does feel a bit frustrating to face especially when it becomes too common (which seems to be the case in Brazil).

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2 hours ago, knap said:

The testing I did indicated that a Press worked better. The problem is that the AI defence will not have forward runs and will just be looking for long ball,. Therefore they are not going to drawn out and adding width exposes defence more from long ball. With the current system the DL can be dropped while keeping a high press and defensive width can be keep narrow.

What I find annoying in FM19 is whenever I lose the ball in midfield or in their half the opposition immediately passes the direct long ball to the strikers successfully, sometimes regardless of DL. And then it is just a matter of luck or your GK.

And the oppositon has way more success with such long balls, than me. I can rarely achive these situations even with 3 strikers.

It is like my defenders have slow reaction time, or when I pass to the strikers, the opposition defenders are one step ahead.

Can this be prevented through man marking the strikers or position marking, besides dropping DL?

And how can we successfully implement "direct long balls to strikers" situation?

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cautious was set up for possession rather than results, if you want better results I would use BEOWULF 451 and 4141.

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6 hours ago, knap said:

The testing I did indicated that a Press worked better. The problem is that the AI defence will not have forward runs and will just be looking for long ball,. Therefore they are not going to drawn out and adding width exposes defence more from long ball. With the current system the DL can be dropped while keeping a high press and defensive width can be keep narrow.

What's DL ....defender on the left or left defender from CBS 

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hey knap ! which your is the best tactic ? I used p100(4-1-4-1) and p110(4-4-2) but ı could not to decide...

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8 hours ago, knap said:

From Top dog to Under dog

BEOWULF Press 4231 

BEOWULF Press 424

BEOWULF Press 4231 Narrow

BEOWULF 442

BLUE MATTER  Press 433

ARGUS Press 352

GOODBYE Press 3412

DARK SIDE 4231

PILGRIMAGE cautious 451

MIDSOMER  Press 442

MIDSOMER Std 442

VOLANTE BBM Press 4132

BEOWULF Press 451

BEOWULF Press Flat 451

BEOWULF Press 4141

VOLANTE 4222

VOLANTE Anchor

ARGUS Press 343

GOODBYE Press 343

what under dog goodbye to beowulf?

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In theory GOODBYE 343 should be best under dog tactic and BEOWULF4231 best top dog, but you never know.

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Hey Knap, I have tried this 4 4 2 and the 4 2 4 press for West Ham, although unbeaten im conceding huge amount of goals.  Whats the best tactic you can recommend for West Ham and conceding less.

  

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Are you conceding late in game? in which case use a SUS to close out.  From the point of view of more defensive formations the BEOWULF 4231 451 and 4141, or go 3 at back with 343, 352 or latest Dark Side 3322

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No not late, one game was 4 - 3 after half hour. What about the pilgrimage 451, can swap between the cautious and attack

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Hi Knap, thanks for your great tactics.  I have used the Beowulf press one to get promoted with Pisa,only lost 1 game all season!!!!

 

What tactic would be best to use in Seria B,should I stick with Beowulf or change to something more conservative?

 

Thanks Matt

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I'm not sure Pilgrimage cautious is working that well. I am wondering whether I should post my defensive tactic, which is not defensive with regard to results. 

 

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If underdog then GOODBYE or ARGUS 343, BUT THE 424 or 4231 may still work.

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2 minutes ago, knap said:

If underdog then GOODBYE or ARGUS 343, BUT THE 424 or 4231 may still work.

Will go with the Beowulf 4231, see how that goes.

Thanks Knap

 

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Thanks @knap I just love this Beowulf442 for immersion.

Something I have noticed after restarting multiple times, is how important Match cohesion is. When starting a new game, match cohesion is usually very poor or poor at best. In my experience, most unexpected losses and draws comes in the early season before match cohesion is worked up. The fastest way to work it up seems to be about playing the best eleven as much as possible, until match cohesion is Good or better. Filling the Rest slots in the training schedule with Teamwork, Team bonding and Community outreach seems to help aswell.

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