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On 22/11/2018 at 20:28, westmarsh7 said:

Ive never been a Championship side....... I might take the plunge into it this evening.... Whats peoples views and ideas of what to do first season.... transfers to do in and out of the club?

go with your gut feeling.  LUFC is good enough to be promoted without buying  any players. But look through this thread to see how some people have enhanced the first year squad.

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On 23/11/2018 at 01:45, Jambo_ said:

My 2nd season in my Leeds save saw an impressive 7th placed finish in the Premier League, narrowly missing out on Europe. Tyler Roberts had a superb season, scoring 23 goals in 35 games and won European Golden Boy.

Halfway through my 3rd season and sitting in 4th behind Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, my squad is as follows:

GKs: Gerardo Oliva (19 yo Argentinian newgen signed for £10m from Independiente, already 1st choice with 5* potential), Bailey Peacock-Farrell

LB: Tom Pearce, Barry Douglas

CB: John Souttar, Liam Cooper, Jan Bednarek, Jake Cooper, Reece Burke

RB: Ryan Nyambe, Jayden Bogle

CM: Kalvin Phillips, Fabian Delph, Jonny Howson, Liam Henderson, Mateusz Klich

RW: Patrick Roberts, Jarrod Bowen, Mike Owen (18 yo newgen from 1st youth intake, 4.5 gold * potential)

CAM: Lovro Majer, Alex Pritchard

LW: Ryan Kent, Gjanni Alioski

ST: Erling Håland, Tyler Roberts, Jack Clarke, Toni Martinez

 

I'm always keen to fill my team with young mainly British players (post Brexit) and develop them. Delph and Howson were both transfer listed fairly cheaply so I thought I'd bring them home, sadly Milner had already agreed a transfer. Alioski and Klich have both agreed transfers away in January so I definitely need to sign a LW (hoping Demarai Gray's wage demands go down, if not then Marlos Moreno is transfer listed at Man City). A CB is also high priority, Jamaal Lascelles is transfer listed after Newcastle got relegated but their asking price is currently £46m!! So am looking for a cheaper alternative.

My best signing has to be Patrick Roberts, had him on loan in my 1st season in the PL and he was one of my top performers. His contract with Man City was up in June 2020 so I was able to pick him up on a free transfer. Erling Håland was a good signing too for £10m from RB Salzburg, Alfie was one of my favourite Leeds players as a kid in the late 90s so nice to have his son doing well for Leeds

you are doing well. keep going.

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6 hours ago, JohnShepard said:

Does anyone know how exactly Bielsa tactics look, with players role's and TI? 

It's tricky, as roles in FM don't translate well into how we play irl.

Phillips as an example, his "role" in FM would probably be half back, but because of how that works he doesn't get on the ball nearly enough, which means you'll probably want him as a DLP, but then he doesn't always drop deep enough.

Your best bet is to start a test save and have a play around - Again unfortunately it's much, much harder to be successful and play Bielsas style in this ME.  irl possession is dominated in most games yet at the minute the ME really doesn't reward this.

Of course this is my opinion and kudos to anyone who has possession dominating systems working well - I haven't seen anything yet though.

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Wich tactical style do you guys recommend for Leeds? The plan is to play 4-1-4-1. Bielsa is well closest to gegenpressing if you look at the tactial style that FM presents

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39 minutes ago, matsnor21 said:

Wich tactical style do you guys recommend for Leeds? The plan is to play 4-1-4-1. Bielsa is well closest to gegenpressing if you look at the tactial style that FM presents

With a couple of transfers I found the team quite suited to possessional, attacking football. The team is fairly well rounded so with a couple of additions you could build a good basis for almost any tactical approach. though.

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6 hours ago, Mardy said:

With a couple of transfers I found the team quite suited to possessional, attacking football. The team is fairly well rounded so with a couple of additions you could build a good basis for almost any tactical approach. though.

Found 4141 with geggenpress v strong. 

Cooper and Jannson scored 10+ goals in Championship and first year in prem.

Added look for overlap, and dropped line of engagement by 1 notch.

Opposition instructions showed every opposition player into centre of pitch.

Promoted 2nd with very few signings.

Plenty of game time for hi~potential youngsters like Roberts, Clarke, Shakleton etc

Sk A BPF/

FB A Douglas

BPD D Cooper

BPD D Jannson

FB A Ayling

IW A Roofe/Brown

AP A Saiz

DLP D Klich

IW A Harrison/Ezszszjjjjaaaaaneeeer Elllehossski

BWM (DM) D Philips

DLF S Bamford

 

 

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Christmas in second season, going well but just got this.

Very proud.

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23 hours ago, macca72 said:

Christmas in second season, going well but just got this.

Very proud.

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As a striker or inside forward?

Im gonna start a new save with just homegrown and stolen newgens on compensation only....

Shackleton???

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Striker - I play a poacher so he and Bamford rotate.  Roofe went at the start of the game to make sure he got game time.

Shackleton hasn't played much but he's a solid squad player.  Pearce is similar as Douglas is so good he hasn't had lots of games.

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On 01/12/2018 at 18:08, macca72 said:

Christmas in second season, going well but just got this.

Very proud.

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I think Jack Clarke could be immense with the right game time this year. Doing well for you already! Great achievement. 

2 hours ago, Bigmonkey79 said:

As a striker or inside forward?

Im gonna start a new save with just homegrown and stolen newgens on compensation only....

Shackleton???

I did exactly this. Was doing well in my second season but had sold a lot of the original first team and not developed any of the youngsters. Made it my aim to develop Shackleton, Pearce, Clarke, Edmundson & Temenuzhkov (Just to start with). All transfers will be under 21 or English if over that. 

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3 hours ago, macca72 said:

Striker - I play a poacher so he and Bamford rotate.  Roofe went at the start of the game to make sure he got game time.

Shackleton hasn't played much but he's a solid squad player.  Pearce is similar as Douglas is so good he hasn't had lots of games.

Ta, food for thought.

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On 03/12/2018 at 07:10, JJSaxton said:

I think Jack Clarke could be immense with the right game time this year. Doing well for you already! Great achievement. 

I did exactly this. Was doing well in my second season but had sold a lot of the original first team and not developed any of the youngsters. Made it my aim to develop Shackleton, Pearce, Clarke, Edmundson & Temenuzhkov (Just to start with). All transfers will be under 21 or English if over that. 

sounds really interesting... please let us all know how you get on.

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Just loading my first save up now. Hoping I can do the same as bielsa is doing IRL. Another aim is to bring through as much youth in the coming years

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57 minutes ago, Lufcberg22 said:

Just loading my first save up now. Hoping I can do the same as bielsa is doing IRL. Another aim is to bring through as much youth in the coming years

Plenty of kids to bring through in Coyle, Clarke, Shakleton and Edmondson. Ive got to prem and maxed my Training facilities, youth recruitment etc but avg only 1 player each intake at 3.5 stars or higher&most of those are 3.5. On one intake i got my first 5 star newgen striker with no determination, workrate and developed fairly unsporting as a character trait. Doh. 

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I have just completed my second season, the first year back in the Premiership. Finished 5th! Unbelievable season. 

 

Charlie Taylor averaged 7.68 for the season. Glad I brought him back!

 

Already done a few transfers in preparation for Europa as my squad was thin. 

 

Drinkwater and Luka Jovic in on transfers

Rodrygo, Mahrez and David Luiz in on loans

Pedro, Kenedy, Patrick Roberts and Mario Mandzukic all in on frees!

 

More transfers to come too I would think

 

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won championship and now going into PL and tempted to go with majority of my team... signed blackman as he was outstanding and lewis Baker bought, pearce held his own and av 7.08 as douglas had a few injuries so deserves PL as does young pearce and shackleton. Clarke rattled in 22 goals in an average u23s so he will be in with a shout ive gambled with ayala and want to bring in moreno or abrahams up front... i had jenkinson on loan at RB and he done well anyone take him to PL?                                         enjoying 2019 after a 2018 break....

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23 hours ago, Mardy said:

I have just completed my second season, the first year back in the Premiership. Finished 5th! Unbelievable season. 

 

Charlie Taylor averaged 7.68 for the season. Glad I brought him back!

 

Already done a few transfers in preparation for Europa as my squad was thin. 

 

Drinkwater and Luka Jovic in on transfers

Rodrygo, Mahrez and David Luiz in on loans

Pedro, Kenedy, Patrick Roberts and Mario Mandzukic all in on frees!

 

More transfers to come too I would think

 

Charlie Taylor signed for scum on my save! I made sure I loudly booed him every time he touched the ball when I played them to keep the realism up :lol:

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Finished first place in the championship in my first season. 

Wanted to give two shouts that made it happen. I made two loan signings in January.  

 

Smith-Rowe from Arsenal and Allan Saint-Maxim from Nice.

Those two guys on opposite flanks playing winger attack took us from probably a top 5 finish to league win. 

 

As a non-Leeds fan, is there anyone I absolutely shouldn't sell? For instance as a tottenham fan I would never sell Kane (homegrown hero)

 

 

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Hi all, not really posted in the forums before, but thought I'd give you a little insight to my Leeds save.

So, the first season we won the Championship, with a mixture of 4141, and 4231.  Major transfers to note were that Jansson was sold for 8.25m on deadline day in January.  Gian Marco Ferrari was loaned in as replacement.  

In our first season in the Premiership, we finished a respectable 13th, the most notable signing was Andreas Pereira from Man U on a free.  

Our second season we finished in 2nd place, 15 points behind Arsenal.  I am currently England manager as well, offered the job in the summer of 2020.  Mamadou Sakho 21m from Crystal Palace, and Rubins Loftus Cheek 4.3m from Chelsea were the notable signings.  Managed to also get Kevin Akpoguma from TSG for 3.7m.  

Into our third season now, and we're currently 6th in the league with 15 games to go.  The Champions League was a disaster though, out at the group stage.  

I find the 4231 works better, I have pushed the RMC back to the DMRC position, and look to play an inverted Z formation.  It does seem to work although we tend to attack down the flanks a lot???

 

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So started a new save with the mighty Leeds,

1st season Won the Championship quite easily without adding loads of players to the squad. I won it with 95 points and scoring 83 goals. Top scorer was Roofe with 29 goals from 40 games. 

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Transfers in/out 2018/19

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Finished 10th in my 1st season back in the Premier League, really struggled at the start but managed to turn it around and avoid the drop

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Transfer In/Out 19/20

Manged to get Fiete Arp for £22 million and D.Berardi for £21 million, both world class players. Sold Ayling for £11 million and Aloski for £9.25 million.

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Top Goalscorer was Arp with 21 goals.

2nd season in the Premier League and I'm currently on a 9 match unbeaten run and sit in 5th place after 14 games. Antonio Marin just keeps on getting better and better with every game, now worth 19 million and is a 1st team regular at 19. Jack Clarke is getting sub appearances but it's hard to start him in games with Arp and Haland in the squad.

Transfer in/out so far

Brought in Xadas and two wonderkids in Haland and Abdulkadir Omur, but while Haland is doing well, the other lad Omur looks like he might be a massive flop for £27.5 million, but you never know. His stats say otherwise, but he's just not clicking in the team yet.

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Will update again at end of the season.

 

 

 

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First summer, signed Tonali, Marin, Xadas, Arp and brought back Robbie Keane! 

4 of the best wonderkids on the game in the championship! 

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On ‎24‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 12:57, toby14 said:

First summer, signed Tonali, Marin, Xadas, Arp and brought back Robbie Keane! 

4 of the best wonderkids on the game in the championship! 

How? if i remember correctly you only got a couple of 100 k in transfer kitty and no wage budget first summer? did sales generate that much to cover for thoose 4?

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On 31/12/2018 at 16:55, eye-switcher said:

How? if i remember correctly you only got a couple of 100 k in transfer kitty and no wage budget first summer? did sales generate that much to cover for thoose 4?

In my other save I got Tonali on loan with a £4.5m option and Marin you can get for <£2m.

I have managed to regularly raise £15m - £20m in transfer funds off the bat (Roofe, Saiz, Hernandez, Alioski, Dallas) can raise that and more, you can also sell Klich & Cooper, depending on who you identify to replace them and whether you mind using loans.

It's not impossible at all to raise enough to get 3-4 very very good players in.

My thinking was:

Clarke > Roofe

Marin > Alioski

Tonali > Saiz 

Selling others then gets you enough to buy another  couple of good players, or get loans in with future fees.  I've had Morilla, Mendez, Souttar and others in on season long loans with future fees agreed.

Example: This was my first window signings in my second save.  Didn't bother with Marin in this save I am trying out a narrow 4132 formation.

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Got FM2019 a couple days ago after a 5 year absence from the game. My desktop is quite old now, so didn't load much in the way of database or leagues based on the warnings at the start but its zipping through so wish I had put a bigger DB on now as I don't mind load times all that much (Especially with my The Wit Of Cricket book to pass the time). Anyway started as Leeds as I always do, quite a big difference in some parts to the last time I played, but the basics remain the same.

It's a bit odd not having to sell half the squad immediately when managing Leeds, as not experienced that since probably CM 01/02 ! With that being said, I literally have no exciting transfer tales to tell. Not one single in or out to speak of, though Kun Temenuzhkov went out on loan to Livingston.

Pre-season was average, started with a 4-1-4-1 but after two drab draws, switched to 4-2-3-1and haven't looked back. Beat Stoke first up thanks to an early Jack Harrison goal. Brought back down to earth the foloowing weekend by Derby County (can't remember their managers name :rolleyes:), an 89th & 95th minute double from Jack Marriott giving them a 3-1 win. Then lost only 1 between then and the October international break (3-4 home to Preston). Through to Carabao Cup fourth round thanks to high-scoring wins over Charlton (3-2), Derby (2-2, 5-4 on pens) & Leicester (4-2). Despite what you may think, our defence isn't all that bad, though we are conceding at a rate of a goal a game in the league.

 

 

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I give up on leeds. I tried every downloadable tactic praised by people here and on fm scout, I tried tactics developed by me, I tried 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 5-3-2, 5-2-3. Regardless of what I do, I always end up mid table with leeds. Somewhere around 12-14.

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Just bought the game last week, started as always with Leeds. After 29 games in first place ,66 points and 1 loss.  First 22 games i was undefeated, my tactic started from a 4231 control possesion preset, and evolving now into a 433, still choping trying to make any of my strikers  to score.

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On 08/01/2019 at 14:49, vishu said:

I give up on leeds. I tried every downloadable tactic praised by people here and on fm scout, I tried tactics developed by me, I tried 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 5-3-2, 5-2-3. Regardless of what I do, I always end up mid table with leeds. Somewhere around 12-14.

4141, geggenpress preset. Full backs on attack, inverted wingers on attack and the striker as dlf s. Any variant of bwm dlp and ap have worked for the midfield 3 for me. Keep trying!

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So I've decided to go with Leeds, my  "second" favorite team in England...

Signings so far are: Robert Huth on a free, Giuseppe Rossi on a free, and Ravel Morrison on a season long loan with option to buy.

This is gonna be good! :)

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I’ve decided to jump on the bandwagon after not being able to get into a save.

 

aiming at bringing through some of the youngsters 

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In my third season with Leeds now - won the Championship in my first season, and managed to sneak into the top four last year, coupled with an FA and League Cup double (mainly thanks to avoiding the 'big six' all the way through until the finals). 

Currently switching between a 4-1-2-2-1 and a 4-2-3-1 depending on the opposition.    

Annoyingly, I still have £75m in the bank, but my wage budget is maxed out and the board are refusing to increase it any more because they think it's high enough already... Which is a shame, because I think I'm still lacking a top class RW, although Maxwel Cornet surprised me immensely (only cost £2.7m last year, and scored 16 goals last season). Might be the season Jack Clarke properly steps up to the plate, though.

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Had to start my save again due to a corruption.

 

Signed some insane youngsters.

Vagnoman, Wober (model citizen), Xadas, Marin and Arp all signed permanently

Along with optional purchase loans in Kamara (4.9 mil), Tonali (3 mil), Skov Olsen (2.5 mil)

 

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On 31/12/2018 at 16:55, eye-switcher said:

How? if i remember correctly you only got a couple of 100 k in transfer kitty and no wage budget first summer? did sales generate that much to cover for thoose 4?

You're right, you barely get any money to start with. 

I firstly stated to the board my expectations were to win the Championship, then asked for more wage budget which they agreed to. 

Sold both Kemar Roofe and Gianni Alioski for decent money.

Tonali £7m

Marin £1.5m

Arp £17m (only £5m up front)

Xadas £400k 

 

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On 01/12/2018 at 18:08, macca72 said:

Christmas in second season, going well but just got this.

Very proud.

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*reverts Winter upgrade as clearly already OP* :lol:

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Has a supporter.Thanks everyone, you guys have inspired me be to Leeds. Wasn’t  going to be this year as  I do Leeds every season, guess I haven’t settle on save this season.

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3 hours ago, Benj0830 said:

Is anyone still playing as Leeds, how are you all doing? 

Yeah I'm still going. Currently into season 3 and going strong in the prem. Current squad is

GK: Thomas Strakosha / BPF

RB: Benjamin Heinrichs / Lewie Coyle

CB: Nikola Milenkovic / Harry Maguire / Pontus Jansson / Rob Holding / Jorge Mere

LB: Lucas Digne / Tom Pearce

DM: Lucas Tousart / Wilmar Barrios

CM: Sandro Tonali / Donny Van De Beek / Sander Berge

AMC: Ben Woodburn (Loan £30m option) / Roben Loftus-Cheek / Sigurd Gronli

LW: Dani Olmo / Antonio Marin

RW: Florian Thauvin / Dennis Man

ST: Moise Kean / Andre Silva / Fiete Arp / Jack Clarke

 

Pretty happy with the team now and comfortably turning over every team outside the top 6 in the prem and doing well against the top 6. Invested about 20m in youngters in the summer because I was lacking numbers so should have enough depth to do well across the cups and the champions league as well as the prem! 

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I’m still going too- 22/23 season and now trying to defend PL title! Did the double last year to end an annoying run of losing finals. Lost in both uefa cup and FA cup finals in previous seasons. 

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I'm into season 3. 120pt promotion season from Championship followed by a 7th place in PL. Now competing in Europa.

My squad looks like this:

GK: Butland/Bettinelli/BPF

DR: Max Aarons/Ayling

DC: Ruben Vezo/Chris Mepham

DC: Jansson/Jack O'Connell/Cooper (never plays)

DL: Pearce/Matt Targett

MR: Oxlade-Chamberlain/El-Ghazi

MC: Mario Pasalic/Shackleton

MC: Mattia Viviani/Sergi Samper/Klich

ML: Marin/Piedl

ST: Bamford/Clarke/Roberts

ST: Roofe/Temenuzhkov

 

We score a lot of goals and the defense has solidified this year. Just had my first EL group game and beat Olympiakos 10-0 with a heavily rotated team. Looking good.

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On 06/02/2019 at 15:16, SouthernLeedsFan said:

Yeah I'm still going. Currently into season 3 and going strong in the prem. Current squad is

GK: Thomas Strakosha / BPF

RB: Benjamin Heinrichs / Lewie Coyle

CB: Nikola Milenkovic / Harry Maguire / Pontus Jansson / Rob Holding / Jorge Mere

LB: Lucas Digne / Tom Pearce

DM: Lucas Tousart / Wilmar Barrios

CM: Sandro Tonali / Donny Van De Beek / Sander Berge

AMC: Ben Woodburn (Loan £30m option) / Roben Loftus-Cheek / Sigurd Gronli

LW: Dani Olmo / Antonio Marin

RW: Florian Thauvin / Dennis Man

ST: Moise Kean / Andre Silva / Fiete Arp / Jack Clarke

 

Pretty happy with the team now and comfortably turning over every team outside the top 6 in the prem and doing well against the top 6. Invested about 20m in youngters in the summer because I was lacking numbers so should have enough depth to do well across the cups and the champions league as well as the prem! 

1st season won Championship with 100+ points, 1 transfer in only (Marin) 2nd season i was 3rd, just two points behind Liverpool and Man city. City won on gd. We won Caribou Cup. 3rd season in Feb still have Pearce, Elioski, Coyle, Jannson, Ideguchi, Phillips, Clarke,  Klich, Roofe, BPF and Shakleton are in 1st team squad still. Couldnt develop Dalby and Edmondson tho. Too few games to give them all time!

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15 hours ago, Bigmonkey79 said:

Couldnt develop Dalby and Edmondson tho. Too few games to give them all time!

I'm having the same issue with these two. Dalby is out on loan at League 1 level and Edmondson in our U-23's but neither have had a minute of 1st team action for us yet. Clarke and Kun T are just too good and need the game time. I've also signed a young Czech striker, Vasil Kujev (sp) who is ahead of those two. I've also retrained him to MR to help get game time.

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