TheMaestro88 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi guys. Apologies if this is already a thread - but how do I replace the manager photo? The generated model looks ridiculous! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 vor 8 Minuten schrieb TheMaestro88: Hi guys. Apologies if this is already a thread - but how do I replace the manager photo? The generated model looks ridiculous! Cheers You can't replace it. Just try it again or with another picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaestro88 Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, KUBI said: You can't replace it. Just try it again or with another picture. So I'm stuck looking like one of the muppets? The 3d avatars are a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, TheMaestro88 said: So I'm stuck looking like one of the muppets? The 3d avatars are a joke Happy to say last years manager pic mod works, though haven't got a clue where I got if from, and the huge db works aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
improvox Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 You can edit the managers appearance on the start screen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, TheMaestro88 said: So I'm stuck looking like one of the muppets? The 3d avatars are a joke That made me laugh. Be careful when apply the points on the photo. To be fair the in game photo looks poor for everyone but if its any consolation its better than last year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysheard Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 It's a bit like a sh*t dad who's spent too much money on a sh*t Christmas present for you and insists you play with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerdMuller Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 "Boy, some day 3D technology will be so advanced you will be able to make an avatar that nearly looks like you in minutes. " § But dad, i got a perfect picture of myself just right here , cant i just use that?" FM 2030: Sorry , players models still look a lot like stick figures , we just dont have the resources to make them dribble smooth etc., but BOY that 3D manager is nearly like real life, now even his trousers move in the wind. Isnt that what the game is all about. :-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrobot Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 There should be an option to choose whether you want a picture or a 3D-model. I don't really get why the option was totally removed from the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysheard Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 8 hours ago, mrrobot said: There should be an option to choose whether you want a picture or a 3D-model. I don't really get why the option was totally removed from the game. Whaaaaaaaaat? Common sense to let the 99.99% of people that prefer to see their own photo next to the thousands of photos they have from the graphics patch, rather than always looking like a grainy heroin addict? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchdog93 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 11 hours ago, mrrobot said: There should be an option to choose whether you want a picture or a 3D-model. I don't really get why the option was totally removed from the game. The answer is Miles' stubbornness I'm afriad. It's fairly obvious that the 3D manager isn't up to scratch (and probably never will be). For a game that values realism so highly it boggles my mind why they won't let you have an ACTUAL picture of your ACTUAL face. Totally detracts from the immersion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaestro88 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Glad to see it's not just me! I know how to edit it btw - the issue is actually making an avatar that looks relatively human rather than frank sidebottom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 vor einer Stunde schrieb frenchdog93: The answer is Miles' stubbornness I'm afriad. It's fairly obvious that the 3D manager isn't up to scratch (and probably never will be). For a game that values realism so highly it boggles my mind why they won't let you have an ACTUAL picture of your ACTUAL face. Totally detracts from the immersion. It's because everything changed to 3D and you will probably recognize the managers face in the future during a match. The decision to remove the ability to use a picture is because they changed the way manager faces are or will be presented in the game. This is the same as with classic 2D. It has to be removed to make a step forward for improvements and innovations in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchdog93 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, KUBI said: It's because everything changed to 3D and you will probably recognize the managers face in the future during a match. The decision to remove the ability to use a picture is because they changed the way manager faces are or will be presented in the game. This is the same as with classic 2D. It has to be removed to make a step forward for improvements and innovations in the future. As for seeing the manager face during a game, how many years is that going to be? It seems unlikely to me that it'll be achieved in the next decade. So why implement poor quality 3D managers now? A fleeting moment of recognition just isn't worth damaging the game for. And that reason alone doesn't cut it for me anyway. Surely you could have a profile picture and a 3D model? It was a poor decision that the vast majority of the FM community hate and its even more frustrating that SI double-down on obvious mis-steps like this. I can only think that it was added in a rush to meet the new features quota for FM18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, KUBI said: It's because everything changed to 3D and you will probably recognize the managers face in the future during a match. The decision to remove the ability to use a picture is because they changed the way manager faces are or will be presented in the game. This is the same as with classic 2D. It has to be removed to make a step forward for improvements and innovations in the future. I'm confused. There are thousands of licensed pictures of players and staff, not to mention the thousands user can add by third party facepacks. Still the only real person who has a bad looking 3D face in the game is the player himself. Yet I'm not able to recognize myself in the portret shot let alone during a match. Unless SI plans to follow the FIFA example, by modeling every person in 3D, which I doubt will happen in the foreseeable future, then it makes no sense that we are forced to look at a 3d model of our heads that's not corresponding to the way how real people are presented in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 The decision was made with FM 2018 and Miles and others at SI stated more than once, that it will not reversed. So this whole discussion does not make much sense. Just get used to it. As we all can not change it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchdog93 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Miles attitude deserves to be called out in that case. Stubbornness in the face of mistakes does not a good game make. When video game companies stop listening to the fans/consumers is generally when things start to go wrong, it's happened so many times. If the community is consistent with complaints they will ultimately have to listen. Even if it is 10 years down the line. Or if they compromise and have a profile picture and a 3D modelled version like I mentioned... they both fulfil different functions after all. A 3D model will never mimic a photo as well as a photo. I also think SI know this is a bad feature which is why they double-down so hard on it being irreversible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 We had this discussion last year and even if it's brought up in the forum more than once, it's just a minority who seems not to accept it as it is. It will not come back. It's pure speculation or wishful thinking, that SI knows "that this is a bad feature". When they made such decisions it's usually for the future, so we have to wait and see what will come in the next 2 or 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchdog93 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I have not seen one person who either requested this change or thinks it adds anything to the game. I really don't think it's a minority. A poll would be interesting. SI have gone back on things before. Would not be in the least surprised if this is reversed 5 years from now. Especially if it continues to look awful and do nothing but detract from the game. Of course they'll defend it to the grave whilst its still a relatively new feature. It's objectively terrible though so it surely won't stay forever and I can't envision a time when FM graphics will be good enough to justify it. Anyway I'll leave it for now. Will be back to criticise in when FM20 comes out and my in-game manager still looks like death warmed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrysi Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Add me to the minority list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 This will probably work in FM 2019 too: https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm18-add-manager-pic-mod.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysheard Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Emperor: Am I naked? Servant: <trying not to snigger> What? Er, no. Course not. Emperor: And is my idea for the 3D manager face as bad as they all say? Servant: <smile disappears from face> yes, bag of ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockers Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 This is mine at the moment, it's looks better then last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolsvik Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Also add me and my brother to the minority list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrobot Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Add the 111 people who voted in this thread to the list as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Wish we could choose no picture at all. The 3d manager looks terrible Luckily we rarely see the terrifying thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaestro88 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Would love to see someone, outwith SI staff/ mods, come out and defend this pish feature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I don't like this feature and I will NEVER EVER use it, but as long as it is modable I don't see it as a major issue, BUT if it was compulsory I would never buy again. I'm happily using my preferred picture, first thing I did when saw option wasn't in game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaestro88 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, toffee71 said: I don't like this feature and I will NEVER EVER use it, but as long as it is modable I don't see it as a major issue, BUT if it was compulsory I would never buy again. I'm happily using my preferred picture, first thing I did when saw option wasn't in game. How did you manage that? Same mod that was posted here previously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheMaestro88 said: How did you manage that? Same mod that was posted here previously? If you mean this one the yes, just d/l it and it's the same name, been on my external drive so wasn't sure where i got it from, when i first posted in this topic 21 hours ago, KUBI said: This will probably work in FM 2019 too: https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm18-add-manager-pic-mod.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysheard Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 19 hours ago, SuperStockers said: This is mine at the moment, it's looks better then last year Please sell Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockers Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, dannysheard said: Please sell Newcastle. NEVER!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrobot Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I never saw the suggestion: "Hey. We want 3D faces for our manager. And please remove the option to have a picture. Thanks." in the feature requests section. Next time it's probably: "Hey. We want 3D faces for the players. And please remove the option to use a facepack for the players. Thanks." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlukitzFudgey Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, mrrobot said: I never saw the suggestion: "Hey. We want 3D faces for our manager. And please remove the option to have a picture. Thanks." in the feature requests section. Next time it's probably: "Hey. We want 3D faces for the players. And please remove the option to use a facepack for the players. Thanks." Don't give them these ideas :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 vor 10 Minuten schrieb mrrobot: I never saw the suggestion: "Hey. We want 3D faces for our manager. And please remove the option to have a picture. Thanks." in the feature requests section. Next time it's probably: "Hey. We want 3D faces for the players. And please remove the option to use a facepack for the players. Thanks." A lot of suggestions from the forum are already in the game. But the developers also need there own ideas how this game should be in 2, 3, 4 years. A lot of features are taking 2 years or more before they can be fully implemented. If old features are removed we should accept it. Especially after this was already discussed a year ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchdog93 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I get that you're a mod and probably have to toe the party line but there's absolutely no reason to just accept it. Fans have every right to criticise bad decisions about a product they love... this is a forum after all. As I've said before, SI have to defend it now because its still a relatively new feature. Five years from now when it still looks like garbage and is resoundingly reviled by fans they may well change their tune. It's barely even PS1 quality at this point and it just highlights how far FM is behind most other games graphically. I know it's a long-term thing but it's decades away from being good enough. Even if you think it's a step in the right direction it should not have been released in its current form. It adds nothing and is just a bit embarrassing. I understand that a lot of time has probably been put into developing it so they're not gonna want to throw it away. Most people, myself included, aren't even calling for it to be removed. I've got no problem with seeing a 3D version of myself on match day. If implemented properly that would be kind of cool. But there's no reason that 3D model has to be my profile picture too. Surely for realism's sake it makes sense for them to be separate anyway? Even if FM had Fifa-esque graphics I'd still prefer my profile picture to be an actual picture of me. What's the point of simulating something that you can have for real? It kills the immersion and immersion is central to every who plays the game... which is why I don't think I've ever heard anything positive said about it before. If fans keep on criticising eventually something will change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrobot Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, frenchdog93 said: But there's no reason that 3D model has to be my profile picture too. This! Totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 While I do agree of the notion it should be possible to use images as the avatar in the game, why is this such a big deal? Do you often go into your profile to look at your own picture? I just don't get it....? Can someone explain it to me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lblanc Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 14 hours ago, dannysheard said: Please sell Newcastle. First thing I thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDenimSuccess Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 20/10/2018 at 23:56, SuperStockers said: This is mine at the moment, it's looks better then last year Spitting dabs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 46 minutes ago, XaW said: While I do agree of the notion it should be possible to use images as the avatar in the game, why is this such a big deal? Do you often go into your profile to look at your own picture? I just don't get it....? Can someone explain it to me? I agree the manager part isn't a big deal. I don't need to see my picture, really. The bigger problem is the newgens using the same, sub-standard model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, DP said: I agree the manager part isn't a big deal. I don't need to see my picture, really. The bigger problem is the newgens using the same, sub-standard model. Yeah, there should be more variation, but at least they are better than FM18! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchdog93 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, XaW said: While I do agree of the notion it should be possible to use images as the avatar in the game, why is this such a big deal? Do you often go into your profile to look at your own picture? I just don't get it....? Can someone explain it to me? It pops up in the news feed enough times to become an annoyance. Especially when you win as many manager of the month as often as I do And it could be so easily remedied, which is where the frustration comes from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, frenchdog93 said: It pops up in the news feed enough times to become an annoyance. Especially when you win as many manager of the month as often as I do And it could be so easily remedied, which is where the frustration comes from. Heh, well, I guess I don't win enough to see it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrobot Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 For those who want their manager photo in the game, instead of the 3D model. Download one of the FM 19 Base Skins, and put it in: "Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2019\skins\". Then download the manager picture mod from FM 18 (it works in FM19 as well), and put inside the base skin folder that you downloaded. FM 19 Base Skins FM 18 Picture Mod All credits to michaeltmurrayuk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaffy Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Are there sliders to modify face generated and fine tune mouth, nose, chin etc? I think there were in earlier versions but couldn't find them in beta...If they are still there, how do I access them ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, mhaffy said: Are there sliders to modify face generated and fine tune mouth, nose, chin etc? I think there were in earlier versions but couldn't find them in beta...If they are still there, how do I access them ... Yes, there are. You access them via the drop-down menu next to "Randomise Face", as shown here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaffy Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said: Yes, there are. You access them via the drop-down menu next to "Randomise Face", as shown here. So you can generate initial 3D model from photo and then fine tune via randomise face? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, mhaffy said: So you can generate initial 3D model from photo and then fine tune via randomise face? Yep, because I did just that, and it worked fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaffy Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Thanks for that.......didn't consider trying what you suggested as I interepret Randomise face in literal sense - it produces a random face! Very misleading terminology if that is the option you need to select to modify a 3D model previously generated from a photo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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