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Please post any data issues related to Denmark here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research. 

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.                             

·        State what you think the data should be.                       

·        State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.                       

Please note that any non-data issues for Denmark should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues Forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling and league rules.

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Jesper Hansen from OB, is Fitness Coach and Director of Football. He is only Director of Football

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I'm pretty sure Mikael Antonsson is not the chairman of FC København :D

I'm also quite sure that the club does not have both a FC København II and a Reserves Team but only the latter.

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39 minutes ago, HonoDelLoce said:

I'm pretty sure Mikael Antonsson is not the chairman of FC København :D

I'm also quite sure that the club does not have both a FC København II and a Reserves Team but only the latter.

FCK II and FCK reserve team is not a bug. FCK II is KB, which play in Københavnsserien.

Edited by Girafi

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Ishøj BK is still in the game and playing in Danmarksserien, Pulje 2. In 2017 they created the new club "Ishøj IF" together with SB 50 Ishøj, which is the club that plays in Danmarksserien, Pulje 2.

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24 minutes ago, Martin G. said:

He is at Randers Freja

i see now:D

but why is there randers fc reserves and randers freja...?

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I see that all the clubs has both reserves and a second team (Brondby IF II etc.) 

 

As a former elite youth coach, I now that pretty much no-one of the professional Danish clubs use the second team, that plays in a lower tier, for their elite players - that be senior or youth players. 

 

Even for the youth players, if they don't play for the youth teams, the play in the official Reserve League against other professional reserve teams. I therefore feel it shouldn't be so in Football Manager, that youth players plays official games at a lower league level as that would never happen in reality in the Danish clubs. 

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4 minutes ago, AndersBaang said:

I see that all the clubs has both reserves and a second team (Brondby IF II etc.) 

 

As a former elite youth coach, I now that pretty much no-one of the professional Danish clubs use the second team, that plays in a lower tier, for their elite players - that be senior or youth players. 

 

Even for the youth players, if they don't play for the youth teams, the play in the official Reserve League against other professional reserve teams. I therefore feel it shouldn't be so in Football Manager, that youth players plays official games at a lower league level as that would never happen in reality in the Danish clubs. 

I agree to some extend. I think it's a very good addition that the 2nd team have been split into a reserve team and a "II"-team. But I think that the II-team should be amateur only, and not have any of the 1st team/reserve team players moved down.

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10 hours ago, Girafi said:

I agree to some extend. I think it's a very good addition that the 2nd team have been split into a reserve team and a "II"-team. But I think that the II-team should be amateur only, and not have any of the 1st team/reserve team players moved down.

The II-teams should be removed. They surve no purpose and is only a nuisance for the player. They could be added as an Affiliated Club, maybe. That's actually even more realistic, since almost all top clubs are separate entities from their mother club.

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The B 93 U19 (U19 Divisionen - Denmark) Manager and Assistant Managers are not correct.

The manager and assistant manager of B 93 U19 as stated in the game are: Erik Larsen and Dragan Sabov, but both of these are wrong. Dragan Sabov is the "Materials Manager" at the club.

The current manager of B 93 U19 is Lasse Theis

The current Assistant Manager of B 93 U19 is Rasmus S. Anker

Link to B 93's website with information on Lasse Theis: https://fodbold.b93.dk/hvemerhvem-ungdom/

Link to Rasmus S. Anker's(Rasmus Anker) LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rasmus-anker-7125979a

  • Information on Rasmus S. Anker:
    • Birth date: 2nd of August 1995

Attached:

  • Team photo - Manager(Lasse Theis) to the right and Assistant Manager(Rasmus S. Anker) furthest to the right.
  • Screenshot from FM19 with names of Erik Larsen and Dragan Sabov.

B93 team photo incl. LT and RA.jpeg

Skærmbillede 2018-10-19 kl. 13.11.51.png

Edited by rasmussanker

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Following FC Midtjylland players all have the wrong birthdays:

Kristoffer Lund - In game: 6/7/1999, should be: May 14, 2002

Simon Madsen - In game: 21/7/1999, should be: Feb 20, 2002

Tobias Damtoft - In game: 11/1/2001, should be: Jan 11, 2002

John Ndjate - In game: 11/4/2001, should be: Apr 11, 2002

Emil Sand  - In game: 20/1/2002, should be: Apr 5, 2001

 

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4 hours ago, Yankee112DK said:

The II-teams should be removed. They surve no purpose and is only a nuisance for the player. They could be added as an Affiliated Club, maybe. That's actually even more realistic, since almost all top clubs are separate entities from their mother club.

I totally agree!

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A couple of AGF related opinions.

-Jens Stage is club captain IRL. He should have a bit higher determination and leadership. Right now it's 12/12. Perhaps something like 14/14 would be better.

-Perhaps make Youssef Toutouh unavailable to play football for a couple of months. He won't see the field in a while because of his poor form.

 

Regarding Silkeborg's Valance Nambishi:

The club website lists him as danish. In game he is Zambian and Congolese http://www.silkeborgif.com/spiller/valance-nambishi/. It also states that his contract runs until 2021. He already made  his Superliga debut, and they rate him pretty highly, so perhaps is CA should be looked at, as he doesn't seem good enough for the first team at the moment.

Edited by Mr_Demus

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Regarding Holbæk:

-Rasmus Suhr Petersen is listed as a midfielder. According to their website he is a striker https://hbi.dk/senior/1-senior/truppen/

-Frederik Parishus doesn't seem to be at the club anymore

-Kristian Paris is listed as a midfielder. According to the website he is a defender.

-Nikolaj Frandsen (27116287) has joined the club. He is a midfielder, not a striker as in game.

 

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FREMAD AMAGER

- Add Timur Daguev as new Director of Football (https://www.fremadamagerelite.dk/single-post/2018/10/11/BRIKKERNE-FALDER-PÅ-PLADS)

- Add Michael Jahn as new CEO (https://www.fremadamagerelite.dk/single-post/2018/10/11/BRIKKERNE-FALDER-PÅ-PLADS)

- Add Christian Pilegaard as new Fitness Coach (https://www.fremadamagerelite.dk/holdet)

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Jens Cajuste now have Haiti as second nationality. Should be USA instead (have been talks about him joining American youth NT, his father is American). Must be an error from me since I put him in the database in the first place. Don't know why I've entered Haiti in that field.

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Silkeborg IF

Jeppe Gertsen is out with "damaged cruciate ligaments". That's not wrong, but it says he's still out for 15 to 16 months (Game date: 29 july. Injury date: 18 june)

That means he's out for a total of around 16-17 months!

But according to my reseach thats way to long time. 

Midtjyllands avis says he's out for minimum 9 months from injury date: (danish article) https://www.mja.dk/artikel/sif-chok-midterforsvarer-har-revet-korsbnd-over

So 16 to 17 months seems to high?

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Vladen Yurchenko playing for Vejle Boldklub is having a salary that is 10 times larger than most other players of the team. He kills the economy of the club!

I don't know how much he makes, but I doubt that it is this much. Maybe a typo adding an extra 0 to the number? If you could have a look, thanks.

Also, I don't think he is injured at the moment.

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- Silkeborg IF have a player in the first team called Frederik Alves Ibsen who is missing from the game.

(http://www.silkeborgif.com/spiller/frederik-alves-ibsen/)

- Also, I feel like Magnus Matsson's CA og PA should be higher since he's one of their best players and playing in the U20 national team (which means his nationality should be Danish)

- Sebastian Jørgensens primary position is AM(R) and his CA and PA should be higher as well since he plays regularly.

- Jeppe Okkels is right-legged, not left.

- Anders Hagelskjær is playing centre-back, not full-back. 

- And I think there are so many U19 and U17 players missing from the Danish clubs. Since I'm a Silkeborg fan I focus on them, and I really think you should consider adding some of these

http://www.silkeborgif.com/talent/elitehold/u19/

http://www.silkeborgif.com/talent/elitehold/u17/

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I can only have 3 subs with HB Køge in 1. division?

It must be a bug as you normally can have a lot more ?? 

 

 

Skærmbillede 2018-10-20 kl. 12.08.57.png

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14 hours ago, Jakobhg said:

Vladen Yurchenko playing for Vejle Boldklub is having a salary that is 10 times larger than most other players of the team. He kills the economy of the club!

I don't know how much he makes, but I doubt that it is this much. Maybe a typo adding an extra 0 to the number? If you could have a look, thanks.

Also, I don't think he is injured at the moment.

The currency was set incorrectly as Euros, not DK. I have updated that now.

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Fc Nordsjælland's youth facilities are rated average, they are by far the team who invest and focus the most on youth development 

and Esbjerg is rated Excellent???

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On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 20:34, Fynbo said:

https://i.gyazo.com/bd89969f8d769e63942a6daeb5b7f3e6.png

Jesper Hansen from OB, is Fitness Coach and Director of Football. He is only Director of Football

Reported. Some strange bug caused strange second jobs.

On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 21:34, Martin G. said:

Mathias Madsen (player-id 27145979) has the wrong date of birth. It should be March 8, 2002.

Reported. Not sure where we got the wrong date from.

On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 21:56, MS said:

The young Vejle player Foday Manneh should have Gambia as his nationality, in the Beta version it is set to Ghana.

(https://www.transfermarkt.com/foday-manneh/profil/spieler/616764)

Reported, thanks.

On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 21:57, HonoDelLoce said:

I'm pretty sure Mikael Antonsson is not the chairman of FC København :D

I'm also quite sure that the club does not have both a FC København II and a Reserves Team but only the latter.

Reported. Some strange bug caused strange second jobs.

On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 22:22, kjeldahl said:

Marcus Mølvadgaard from Randers FC is missing from the game.

he is there.

On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 22:48, Girafi said:

Ishøj BK is still in the game and playing in Danmarksserien, Pulje 2. In 2017 they created the new club "Ishøj IF" together with SB 50 Ishøj, which is the club that plays in Danmarksserien, Pulje 2. 

We'll look to change this at a later stage. not a priority right now, but thanks.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 10:30, MS said:

Primary national citizenship of Vladis Emmerson from the Vejle squad should be Congo, not Democratic Republic of Congo.

Secondary citizenship still Ukraine.

(https://www.transfermarkt.de/emmerson/profil/spieler/213429)

 

Reported.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 11:39, bullilu said:

Oliver Quottrup, coach of Silkeborg IF is born on August 1st 1997, not in 1969

Reported.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 11:42, Yankee112DK said:

The II-teams should be removed. They surve no purpose and is only a nuisance for the player. They could be added as an Affiliated Club, maybe. That's actually even more realistic, since almost all top clubs are separate entities from their mother club.

This is a funny issue, as it's not something I've requested. Not a data issue. However, it isn't neceserily that bad an idea as most teams actually have reserves and a separate B-team. We'll consider this and make changes id needed.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 13:03, rasmussanker said:

The B 93 U19 (U19 Divisionen - Denmark) Manager and Assistant Managers are not correct.

The manager and assistant manager of B 93 U19 as stated in the game are: Erik Larsen and Dragan Sabov, but both of these are wrong. Dragan Sabov is the "Materials Manager" at the club.

The current manager of B 93 U19 is Lasse Theis

The current Assistant Manager of B 93 U19 is Rasmus S. Anker

Link to B 93's website with information on Lasse Theis: https://fodbold.b93.dk/hvemerhvem-ungdom/

Link to Rasmus S. Anker's(Rasmus Anker) LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rasmus-anker-7125979a

  • Information on Rasmus S. Anker:
    • Birth date: 2nd of August 1995

Attached:

  • Team photo - Manager(Lasse Theis) to the right and Assistant Manager(Rasmus S. Anker) furthest to the right.
  • Screenshot from FM19 with names of Erik Larsen and Dragan Sabov.

B93 team photo incl. LT and RA.jpeg

Skærmbillede 2018-10-19 kl. 13.11.51.png

Thanks. We took the info from their website. Would you be interested in becoming B93 researcher?

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 15:08, frederik said:

Following FC Midtjylland players all have the wrong birthdays:

Kristoffer Lund - In game: 6/7/1999, should be: May 14, 2002

Simon Madsen - In game: 21/7/1999, should be: Feb 20, 2002

Tobias Damtoft - In game: 11/1/2001, should be: Jan 11, 2002

John Ndjate - In game: 11/4/2001, should be: Apr 11, 2002

Emil Sand  - In game: 20/1/2002, should be: Apr 5, 2001

 

Reported.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 19:47, Mr_Demus said:

A couple of AGF related opinions.

-Jens Stage is club captain IRL. He should have a bit higher determination and leadership. Right now it's 12/12. Perhaps something like 14/14 would be better.

-Perhaps make Youssef Toutouh unavailable to play football for a couple of months. He won't see the field in a while because of his poor form.

 

Regarding Silkeborg's Valance Nambishi:

The club website lists him as danish. In game he is Zambian and Congolese http://www.silkeborgif.com/spiller/valance-nambishi/. It also states that his contract runs until 2021. He already made  his Superliga debut, and they rate him pretty highly, so perhaps is CA should be looked at, as he doesn't seem good enough for the first team at the moment.

We'll take the AGF input into consideration.

Nambishi has been reported.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 19:54, endtime said:

Victor Boje Henriksen, Hvidovre, ID 27142310 - add Faroese 2nd nationality, he was called up for the recent Faroese U19 international games, source: http://www.fsf.fo/Default.aspx?ID=208&Action=1&NewsId=2573&currentPage=4&PID=487

 

Reported.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 19:58, Mr_Demus said:

Regarding Holbæk:

-Rasmus Suhr Petersen is listed as a midfielder. According to their website he is a striker https://hbi.dk/senior/1-senior/truppen/

-Frederik Parishus doesn't seem to be at the club anymore

-Kristian Paris is listed as a midfielder. According to the website he is a defender.

-Nikolaj Frandsen (27116287) has joined the club. He is a midfielder, not a striker as in game.

 

Transfers reported. Our researcher does not agree on the positions you mentioned. 

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 20:34, AMRDK said:

FREMAD AMAGER

- Add Timur Daguev as new Director of Football (https://www.fremadamagerelite.dk/single-post/2018/10/11/BRIKKERNE-FALDER-PÅ-PLADS)

- Add Michael Jahn as new CEO (https://www.fremadamagerelite.dk/single-post/2018/10/11/BRIKKERNE-FALDER-PÅ-PLADS)

- Add Christian Pilegaard as new Fitness Coach (https://www.fremadamagerelite.dk/holdet)

We'll try to see if we can get these new appointments included.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 20:43, Vänsterback said:

Jens Cajuste now have Haiti as second nationality. Should be USA instead (have been talks about him joining American youth NT, his father is American). Must be an error from me since I put him in the database in the first place. Don't know why I've entered Haiti in that field.

Reported.

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 20:53, TheXFmF said:

Silkeborg IF

Jeppe Gertsen is out with "damaged cruciate ligaments". That's not wrong, but it says he's still out for 15 to 16 months (Game date: 29 july. Injury date: 18 june)

That means he's out for a total of around 16-17 months!

But according to my reseach thats way to long time. 

Midtjyllands avis says he's out for minimum 9 months from injury date: (danish article) https://www.mja.dk/artikel/sif-chok-midterforsvarer-har-revet-korsbnd-over

So 16 to 17 months seems to high?

We've set the injury to last 12 months due to our experiences with damaged cruciate ligaments injuries and the rehabilitation period thereafter. the article does state that he'll be out at least 9 months. could be longer. 16-17 months is nothing we've set in the data. 

On ‎19‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 22:01, Jakobhg said:

Vladen Yurchenko playing for Vejle Boldklub is having a salary that is 10 times larger than most other players of the team. He kills the economy of the club!

I don't know how much he makes, but I doubt that it is this much. Maybe a typo adding an extra 0 to the number? If you could have a look, thanks.

Also, I don't think he is injured at the moment.

his wages must be set in another currency than DKK. we'll report it.

11 hours ago, bullilu said:

- Silkeborg IF have a player in the first team called Frederik Alves Ibsen who is missing from the game.

(http://www.silkeborgif.com/spiller/frederik-alves-ibsen/)

- Also, I feel like Magnus Matsson's CA og PA should be higher since he's one of their best players and playing in the U20 national team (which means his nationality should be Danish)

- Sebastian Jørgensens primary position is AM(R) and his CA and PA should be higher as well since he plays regularly.

- Jeppe Okkels is right-legged, not left.

- Anders Hagelskjær is playing centre-back, not full-back. 

- And I think there are so many U19 and U17 players missing from the Danish clubs. Since I'm a Silkeborg fan I focus on them, and I really think you should consider adding some of these

http://www.silkeborgif.com/talent/elitehold/u19/

http://www.silkeborgif.com/talent/elitehold/u17/ 

We couldn't find proper info on Silkeborg's U19 and U17 players. Would you be able to provide it?

Mattsson already has Denmark as frist nation. Hagelskjær has played DL most of his career so that's still his primary position. DC is set to 18 so he will be useful there.

11 hours ago, HRz said:

I can only have 3 subs with HB Køge in 1. division?

It must be a bug as you normally can have a lot more ?? 

 

 

Skærmbillede 2018-10-20 kl. 12.08.57.png

Not a data issue. Has been logged as a bug, however.

3 hours ago, Kayxo said:

Fc Nordsjælland's youth facilities are rated average, they are by far the team who invest and focus the most on youth development 

and Esbjerg is rated Excellent???

Long story, but it's not as straight forward, unfortunately. a lot of factors decide the newgen output so we've had to compromise with some ratings to achieve realistic newgen production.

what I can say, though, is that FC Nordsjælland will produce great newgens compared to Danish standards, only second to FCM.

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5 minutes ago, Nørbæk said:

Long story, but it's not as straight forward, unfortunately. a lot of factors decide the newgen output so we've had to compromise with some ratings to achieve realistic newgen production.

what I can say, though, is that FC Nordsjælland will produce great newgens compared to Danish standards, only second to FCM.

I know its a mixture of Facilities Coaching and Recruitment stats, but i still think Nordsjælland is abit under tuned, they have made some really exciting investments in this and are doing something very unique, people from other countries have already turned their eyes towards the club as they did pretty good in Europe with one of the youngest teams in the world.

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20 hours ago, Kayxo said:

I know its a mixture of Facilities Coaching and Recruitment stats, but i still think Nordsjælland is abit under tuned, they have made some really exciting investments in this and are doing something very unique, people from other countries have already turned their eyes towards the club as they did pretty good in Europe with one of the youngest teams in the world.

as mentioned, the current newgen output of FC Nordsjælland is already very good and only second to FCM, so we don't see any reason to increase it further.

we do agree, however, that the description of their facilities isn't fair. we can't change it, though, as it would boost their newgen production to an unrealistic level, unfortunately.

EDIT: I've now reviewed this and it does seem as though FCN's ratings are too low, so very good spot :thup: I've logged this to be fixed for the full release.

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On 19/10/2018 at 11:42, Yankee112DK said:

The II-teams should be removed. They surve no purpose and is only a nuisance for the player. They could be added as an Affiliated Club, maybe. That's actually even more realistic, since almost all top clubs are separate entities from their mother club.

I agree. If you create them as affiliated club, with for instance first option on players, i think that would be the best way to do it. That way you have in essence to separate clubs, but it would stil be possible for the parrentclub to pick up any player that might develop in the amateur club.  

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23 hours ago, Gripper said:

The currency was set incorrectly as Euros, not DK. I have updated that now.

Awesome, thanks!

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13 hours ago, Mizta05 said:

I agree. If you create them as affiliated club, with for instance first option on players, i think that would be the best way to do it. That way you have in essence to separate clubs, but it would stil be possible for the parrentclub to pick up any player that might develop in the amateur club.  

Exactly. It's a great idea to have amateur teams, as it is in the real world, but since they do not have any direct interaction with the professional departments of the clubs, there is no need to include them as one of the teams you control. It could work fine as affiliate clubs though.

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6 hours ago, Svartov said:

Exactly. It's a great idea to have amateur teams, as it is in the real world, but since they do not have any direct interaction with the professional departments of the clubs, there is no need to include them as one of the teams you control. It could work fine as affiliate clubs though.

It's not that black and white, guys. How do you suggest dealing with teams such as AaB or Viborg who have reserves in the Denmark's Series? Shouldn't you be able to send your first team players to get match training on those sides?

In the past, FCK's and FCM's reserves even played in the Danish Second Division for the same purposes. 

Willing to listen to any ideas and opinions on how to deal with this, though :thup:

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1 hour ago, Nørbæk said:

It's not that black and white, guys. How do you suggest dealing with teams such as AaB or Viborg who have reserves in the Denmark's Series? Shouldn't you be able to send your first team players to get match training on those sides?

In the past, FCK's and FCM's reserves even played in the Danish Second Division for the same purposes. 

Willing to listen to any ideas and opinions on how to deal with this, though :thup:

Problem is, if I remember correctly, as it is now the II team is the one that plays in reserve leagues, but all reserve players appear in the reserve team, and they won't get the same match practice.

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2 hours ago, Nørbæk said:

It's not that black and white, guys. How do you suggest dealing with teams such as AaB or Viborg who have reserves in the Denmark's Series? Shouldn't you be able to send your first team players to get match training on those sides?

In the past, FCK's and FCM's reserves even played in the Danish Second Division for the same purposes. 

Willing to listen to any ideas and opinions on how to deal with this, though :thup:

I think setting the B-Teams to be Amateur-Only would be a big step in the right direction. The B-teams can't get promoted from Danmarksserien anyways.
All the players from Viborg and Aab that have amateur contracts should be the ones playing for the B-teams, since that is how it is in real life. How it is right now, they end up mostly on the reserve or A-team.
About sending the players down to the B-team to get match experience, I don't see anything wrong with that, but it shouldn't be a priority in my opinion.

On a side note. Playing as FC Sydvest you can't move players from your B-team up to your A-team

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Besar Halimi from Brøndby is said to be retired from international football (as early as 2010). In reality, he plays for Kosovo on a regular basis.

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10 hours ago, Nørbæk said:

 In the past, FCK's and FCM's reserves even played in the Danish Second Division for the same purposes. 

That's true, but that was before the reserve league. Nowadays when first team players needs match practice they play in the reserve league, not with the amateurs.

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12 hours ago, Svartov said:

That's true, but that was before the reserve league. Nowadays when first team players needs match practice they play in the reserve league, not with the amateurs.

it's not true in all cases. A friend of mine was the manager of a Denmark's Series team (reserves of a Superliga team) until earlier this year, and he often had Superliga players at his disposal.

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3 hours ago, Andersfmadsen said:

Randers FC player, Emil Riis has a picture of another person.
 

 

Not a data issue. Not sure where to actually report it, though.

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17 hours ago, Rodiano93 said:

Besar Halimi from Brøndby is said to be retired from international football (as early as 2010). In reality, he plays for Kosovo on a regular basis.

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22 hours ago, jungquist said:

You need Johnny Jungquist as assistant coach for Lyseng :-)

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Ole Hall is not the Chairman of AGF, Lars Fournais is. Ole is "Sportslig Administrator".

https://www.agf.dk/klubben/organisation/

 

EDIT: Regarding the II-teams vs Reserve teams: Amateur teams are fine, but right now all the contracted players of AGF who are not in AGF or the U/19 team is at the "AGF II". They should be at the reserve team right? 
 

I only have 5 mins experience on FM19, but if the "II-teams" can't be removed (I think they should) - at least have the players at the right teams from the beginning, because as it is now, all my reserves have no upcoming matches.. 

Maybe ad "Amateurs" to their name? "AGF II (Amateurs Only) idk

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