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11 minutes ago, zzz... said:

Anybody can tell me why having a lot of field positions must decrease skills of players? Look at poor Calhanoglu.

I understand your concern with the middling attributes distribution for versatile players, but really can't see what's wrong with Çalhanoglu in game, as he looks fairly represented when compared to his ability in reality. Better example would be someone like Oscar de Marcos of Athletic Bilbao, IMO.

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If I am understanding this correctly (and it's possible I've mistranslated) it looks like Serie B is going back to 22 teams - all that remains now is to figure out which ones get the nod. It remains to be seen how this affects Serie C.

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/ripescaggi-serie-b-tar-accoglie-i-ricorsi-contro-il-format-a-19

 

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3 minutos atrás, bangkonggedek disse:

I understand your concern with the middling attributes distribution for versatile players, but really can't see what's wrong with Çalhanoglu in game, as he looks fairly represented when compared to his ability in reality. Better example would be someone like Oscar de Marcos of Athletic Bilbao, IMO.

I agree, Oscar de Marcos has been underrated in the game for a while now, take half of his positions away and his CA would drop massively. Its a shame that versatility is so heavy on CA.

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I understand your concern with the middling attributes distribution for versatile players, but really can't see what's wrong with Çalhanoglu in game, as he looks fairly represented when compared to his ability in reality. Better example would be someone like Oscar de Marcos of Athletic Bilbao, IMO.

Maybe Hakan isn't best example (it's because I start playing with Milan), but concept of this type of accordance so wrong. Previously i refer to Kimmich skills (is he just good player, not star?). 

Maybe researchers can do something if they agree?

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Looking at clauses in transfer contract i found a couple players with two buyback clauses for different amounts

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I noted some mistakes about teams  of Promozione Campania, italian 6th tier here:

https://sortitoutsi.net/search/database?q=promozione&game_id=10&type=league

GROUP A (UID 43104619)

Maddalonese change officially her name in Real Galatia 1919 with new ID 43457049 but the team continues to be called Maddalonese and have yet her own ID 43157988

You can verify here:

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/Promozione/GironeA/Giornata7

https://www.tuttocalciocampano.it/promozione-campania-girone-a-risultati-classifica-1/


GROUP B (UID 43104620)

There are two teams Arco Secondili (ID 43457050 missing) but the team continues to be called Maued Sport (ID 43411899) and Florigium (ID 43156688) but Florigium is not present in the real group. In the real group in her place there is a team called Isola di Procida or simply Procida (ID 43066283)

You can verify here:

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/Promozione/GironeB/Giornata7

https://www.tuttocalciocampano.it/promozione-campania-girone-b-risultati-e-classifica-1/


GROUP C (UID 43104621)

This team Città di Eboli which team is going to replace? Probably Real Sarno? (ID 43391417)

No evidences of this team in real group:

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/Promozione/GironeC/Giornata7

https://www.tuttocalciocampano.it/promozione-campania-girone-c-risultati-e-classifica-1/



Prima Categoria Campania groups are all composed with wrong teams. Here the correct ones:

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/PrimaCategoria/GironeA/Squadra/QuartoCalcio/1078024/Scheda#.W9CuEPloTIU

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/PrimaCategoria/GironeB/Risultati

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/PrimaCategoria/GironeC/Giornata3

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/PrimaCategoria/GironeD/Giornata3

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/PrimaCategoria/GironeE/Giornata3

https://www.tuttocampo.it/Campania/PrimaCategoria/GironeE/Giornata3

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Tofol Montiel (Fiorentina), buyed for 2M €, but the actual price at initial season is only 110m€

and, I don't understand why it is so weak, because it is a good talent

https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/mi-manda-ramadani-montiel-ha-stregato-il-ritiro-della-fiorentina-1134925

http://www.canteraviola.com/tofol-montiel-dalle-attenzioni-delle-big-spagnole-alla-fiorentina-ecco-quanto-e-costato-ai-viola/

Someone has also proposed it among the wonderkids

https://www.kodkey.com/games/football-manager-2019-wonderkids/

Actual skill card

image.thumb.png.d96fd7814a6016795e28ce7345fc471c.png

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19 ore fa, Weston ha scritto:

If I am understanding this correctly (and it's possible I've mistranslated) it looks like Serie B is going back to 22 teams - all that remains now is to figure out which ones get the nod. It remains to be seen how this affects Serie C.

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/ripescaggi-serie-b-tar-accoglie-i-ricorsi-contro-il-format-a-19

 

It's not official yet.

We can't move until the fa and league takes official position and it will be probably too late (it's already too late, indeed, this can't happen in October)

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3 hours ago, SoloTitano said:

It's not official yet.

We can't move until the fa and league takes official position and it will be probably too late (it's already too late, indeed, this can't happen in October)

I know, just posting an update for those who, like me, are curious about the developments. If this is confirmed too late for the full release I hope that due to its importance this is updated with a patch as soon as possible and not delayed until the release of the next routine fix - a lot of us are forced to wait to play the game until this is sorted out.

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Hi, @ researcher :-)

Leonardo Bonucci "Brings ball out of defence" in real life, when ever its posible. Exactly like the player trait -a unique thing to do.

It could be considered to add "Brings ball out of defence" to his player traits.
 

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Some mistakes in Fiorentina team:

Sebastian Cristoforo has an optional buying fee of 2.5 millions in favour of Getafe https://www.calciomercato.com/news/cristoforo-al-getafe-diritto-di-riscatto-a-2-5-milioni-38800

Edimilson Martins has an optional buying fee of 8 millions http://www.fiorentina.it/fiorentina-edimilson-fernandes-le-cifre-prestito-da-900-mila-euro-diritto-riscatto-a-8-mln/

As already stated Pjaca as an optional fee of 20 millions and Juventus has the right to buy him back for 26 https://www.ilbianconero.com/a/mercato-juve-ecco-a-quanto-e-fissata-la-recompra-di-pjaca-44188

And Tofol Montiel was paid 2 milions, had the interest of a lot of big clubs, made an amazing preseason so he should be a lot stronger.

 

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L'inter ha rinnovato i contratti di:

Marcelo Brozovic fino al 30 giugno 2022
Antonio Candreva fino al 30 giugno 2021
Henrique Dalbert fino al 30 giugno 2023
Roberto Gagliardini fino al 30 giugno 2023
Joao Miranda fino al 30 giugno 2020
Matias Vecino fino al 30 giugno 2022

Immagino sia tardi per aggiornare il db ma comunque :) 

Edited by ParanoidBuddha

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Also Inter have announced that Erick Thohir is no more Inter President but Steven Zhang is and that the Zhang family is in control of FC Internazionale

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23403340 Steven Zhang Inter new chairman  as 43167819 Erick Thohir resigned (i think he is to delete because there are 2 Thohir in the game... actually this one is free and not more important)

https://www.goal.com/it/notizie/svolta-inter-steven-zhang-e-il-nuovo-presidente-succede-a/i6s41fvjkq1s1ntoks6ahvxp2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I found some wrong roles in Triestina's players:


- Coletti is CDM, not CB
- Maracchi is CM, not RM
- Beccaro is CM, not LW
- Petrella si RW, not ST
- Bracaletti is CAM, not RW
 

Alex Valentini is left-footed, not right-footed.

Do you think it will be fixed? If yes, I'll wait to start my career :)

Edited by unionexever

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On 25/10/2018 at 00:59, maurizinho91 said:

Tofol Montiel (Fiorentina), buyed for 2M €, but the actual price at initial season is only 110m€

and, I don't understand why it is so weak, because it is a good talent

https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/mi-manda-ramadani-montiel-ha-stregato-il-ritiro-della-fiorentina-1134925

http://www.canteraviola.com/tofol-montiel-dalle-attenzioni-delle-big-spagnole-alla-fiorentina-ecco-quanto-e-costato-ai-viola/

Someone has also proposed it among the wonderkids

https://www.kodkey.com/games/football-manager-2019-wonderkids/

Actual skill card

image.thumb.png.d96fd7814a6016795e28ce7345fc471c.png

I'm pretty sure he's left footed irl so definitely at least one thing to change :)

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SITUATION: MArko Pjaca(fiorentina) has a simple one year loan from juventus without conditions

REALITY: Marko Pjaca(Fiorentina) should have a one-year loan from Juventus with the right to purchase for Fiorentina for 22 millions and the counter-purchase for juventus for 26 millions, if I am not wrong

i don't know if it can be an error related to my game copy, but it seems strange because it's a matter of database.

i see that the lacks on the fiorentina database have just been signaled

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30 minuti fa, papaganci ha scritto:

SITUATION: MArko Pjaca(fiorentina) has a simple one year loan from juventus without conditions

REALITY: Marko Pjaca(Fiorentina) should have a one-year loan from Juventus with the right to purchase for Fiorentina for 22 millions and the counter-purchase for juventus for 26 millions, if I am not wrong

i don't know if it can be an error related to my game copy, but it seems strange because it's a matter of database.

i see that the lacks on the fiorentina database have just been signaled

 

Il 23/10/2018 in 19:19 , SoloTitano ha scritto:

As already written above, we have some problems in showing ingame contract clauses we are present in database. All these reported, are already included. We're working to figure out why this is happening.

 

 

 

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There are players as Edgar Alizalde or Hamed Junior Traoré that have big weights (98kg and 100kg) compared to how they are in the reality. I believed was because they are set ''random'' but I checked in 2 other careers and they are the same

Edited by ParanoidBuddha

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18 ore fa, ParanoidBuddha ha scritto:

There are players as Edgar Alizalde or Hamed Junior Traoré that have big weights (98kg and 100kg) compared to how they are in the reality. I believed was because they are set ''random'' but I checked in 2 other careers and they are the same

nice spot, part of a weight "problem" we reported some weeks ago, but probably now not solved for someone. thanks

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If I post transfers that happened in september/october (not reflected in game) - it's too late for full release?

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16 minuti fa, cel1234 ha scritto:

In game Cristiano Ronaldo is on 1 million a week ??

By the papers he's on £510,483 (€576,923) a week

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/cristiano-ronaldos-juventus-wages-broken-12890306

In the article is reported the wage after tax

Edited by ParanoidBuddha

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Ronaldo’s wages need changing, saying 1m per week, when in reality the contract signed was apparently £538,000 p/w

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Surely it must be a mistake that Barzagli is a natural RB Full Back but only accomplished as a DC Central Defender. I'm also confused as to why Florenzi has been changed to also be only an accomplished AMR with only "competent" on the winger role.

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12 minutes ago, 3ateeji said:

Surely it must be a mistake that Barzagli is a natural RB Full Back but only accomplished as a DC Central Defender.

Agreed - very strange to see him marked as more comfortable at RB than CB which both historically and currently is not true.

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17 minuti fa, Weston ha scritto:

Agreed - very strange to see him marked as more comfortable at RB than CB which both historically and currently is not true.

Not sure, imo currently he's more a ''No-Nonsense Full-Back'' than a CB

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3 minutes ago, ParanoidBuddha said:

Not sure, imo currently he's more a ''No-Nonsense Full-Back'' than a CB

He gets used as an RB occasionally because Juve has more CBs than they are able to rotate through and, until this past weekend, only two fit fullbacks total. He's noticeably outpaced when playing wider and has been a CB for almost all of his career up to age 37.

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[ITALY] Serie B, Salernitana

 

For the Salernitana team, the shirt number 4 is not retired. From 2011 the number's shirt is available. In this competition the number 4 is Bernardini

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Dunno where to post it but in Inter Sassuolo at Meazza stadium, Sassuolo used the home kit and it's very hard to see who's one team and who's the other. Sassuolo should use the away kit

Screen Shot 10-30-18 at 09.40 AM.JPG

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I don't know if someone mentioned this before, but AS Roma's GK Robin Olsen stats should be improved at the moment his current ability and potential ability shows 2 and a half stars, which I believe is way below his ability at the moment.

 

 

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10 ore fa, Weston ha scritto:

He's noticeably outpaced when playing wider and has been a CB for almost all of his career up to age 37.

I know he almost always played as CB but imo his low acceleration is more a problem when he plays as CB in a 4 defence rather than when he plays as a ''blocked'' (behind) full back

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2 hours ago, rakanova said:

I don't know if someone mentioned this before, but AS Roma's GK Robin Olsen stats should be improved at the moment his current ability and potential ability shows 2 and a half stars, which I believe is way below his ability at the moment. 

 

 

Quote

 

Star Ratings

A common misconception is that star ratings reflect a player's ability in the game. They do not, they reflect the player’s standing at your club. So if you own the player, he is judged by your Assistant Manager. If you do not own the player, he is judged by your Scout. Naturally the accuracy of these ratings can vary dependent on the quality of your Assistant Manager and Scout.

 

 

Before posting, read the FAQ for god sake.

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All wages in FM are gross (before taxes) and the game calculate and show also net figures with taxation we included in game for the country.

The image posted above show how Ronaldo net wage is 31M €, matching all info leaked. So it should not be changed.

Thought this was quite clear among fanbase and research, sorry if it was not

 

 

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I'm probably missing something, but Barzagli has 20 as DC (of course) and 18 as DR. Anyway still agree with some of Paranoid's explanation

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5 ore fa, KoliStussy ha scritto:

[ITALY] Serie B, Salernitana

 

For the Salernitana team, the shirt number 4 is not retired. From 2011 the number's shirt is available. In this competition the number 4 is Bernardini

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Nice spot thank you

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Alex Sandro of juve has 6 determination, last years version he had like 16 determination, why a sudden decrease? and i just watched juve vs empoli, he looked pretty determind to get back into the game when losing and drawing, making constant runs down the left, tackles in there box, trying his harder from what i was watching

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Il 26/10/2018 in 17:01 , jmgrima ha scritto:

Also Inter have announced that Erick Thohir is no more Inter President but Steven Zhang is and that the Zhang family is in control of FC Internazionale

Also Handy Soetedjo leave the team with Erick Thohir

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Ho appena aggiornato alla versione 19.1 ed ho notato che è ancora presente il problema riguardante le clausole

Edited by ParanoidBuddha

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Ora Locatelli parte definitivo al Sassuolo ma dovrebbe essere in prestito con trasferimento definitivo la prossima stagione (come Kessie)

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9 ore fa, Klavius ha scritto:

 

The resignation clause of emre can starts from the third year, and not from January as in the game.

I have already reported it (and others) in the previous pages but @SoloTitano wrote there is a problem reguarding clauses.

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Between the Juventus affiliates I would add the WSG Wattens (Austrian 2nd league) and the Zulte Waregem
I know it's late now but I report it for the winter update

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