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Are researchers active on this thread? Haven't seen anything in the way of communication on the feedback given by people. Given this is a huge footballing country I'd expect a bit more engagement.

@Reddiablo I know you work on the dutch side of things but I see you're following this thread, are you the Spain researcher to? Any word on people's feedback here? Thanks.

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About Marbella FC (Spain 2B group VI):

- Head physio should be Carrasco (Pedro Domínguez Carrasco)

- Doctor should be Óscar Trujillo

- José Mari is no longer at the club

- Miguelito is no longer at the club

https://www.marbella-fc.com/listado-jugadores/#1479834083445-0e47f942-d85d

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Ferrol (ID: 1727) has an extra 16/17 season in team history, as seen below:

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After doing a quick research, I noticed that this season (5th place in 3rd division G1) belongs to R.C. Villalbés (ID: 814059) who coincidentally are missing the 16/17 season in their team history:

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Edited by Zikler

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Gerard Piqué retired from the national team after the world cup with 102 caps:
http://www.sefutbol.com/jugadores/pique
(He reached number 100 during the world cup group stage)
But in the game he only has 80 caps:
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Iker Casillas is the current record-holder for Spain with 167 caps:
http://www.sefutbol.com/jugadores/casillas
But in the game he's missing one as he has 166 caps:
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Nacho Monreal has 22 caps and one goal (against FYR Macedonia on 12 Nov 2016)
http://www.sefutbol.com/jugadores/monreal
https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=276483/match=300332061/index.html
But in the game he has 16 caps (and 0 goals):
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Luis Alberto (Lazio) has one cap but his international debut is not showing on his in-game profile.
(it was against Costa Rica on 11 Nov 2017)
http://www.sefutbol.com/jugadores/luis-alberto


Jonathan Viera has one cap (against Israel on 9 Oct 2017) but it's missing from the game.
http://www.sefutbol.com/jugadores/j-viera

 

Mikel Oyarzabal has one cap (against Bosnia-Herzegovina on 29 May 2016) but it's missing as well.
http://www.sefutbol.com/jugadores/oyarzabal

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6 hours ago, Vicz said:

Are researchers active on this thread? Haven't seen anything in the way of communication on the feedback given by people. Given this is a huge footballing country I'd expect a bit more engagement.

@Reddiablo I know you work on the dutch side of things but I see you're following this thread, are you the Spain researcher to? Any word on people's feedback here? Thanks.

@ZoibergAre you aware of those issues? Many thanks!

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Ibiza Updates:

 

Ibiza should just be UD Ibiza not UD Ibiza-Eivissa(old club). The club was also founded in 2015, not 1957 as is currently in the game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UD_Ibiza

 

Lucas Anacker transferred to the team.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lucas-nunes/profil/spieler/510388

 

Can Misses stadium is 105m by 58m

https://www.ibizaud.com/en/estadio/

 

 

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22 hours ago, Vicz said:

Are researchers active on this thread? Haven't seen anything in the way of communication on the feedback given by people. Given this is a huge footballing country I'd expect a bit more engagement.

@Reddiablo I know you work on the dutch side of things but I see you're following this thread, are you the Spain researcher to? Any word on people's feedback here? Thanks.

Was wondering the same thing, especially given the level of detail some people are adding to try and correct errors.

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The researchers here are not active, don't bother. They don't care.

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@Simon Tipple there's literally been no researcher engagement in this thread, at least not for a long time. I know you all are busy but surely something wrong here?

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Barcelonas record kit deal which comes in to effect this season isn't in the sponsors & other finance page but the epl clubs have their additional kit deals in place man utds £75 million per season adidas seal is there also chelseas new £60 million per season deal but the Spanish clubs haven't, personally think the game is slightly biased imo towards epl how they have all their deals in place amongst other things, https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11833/10637904/barcelona-confirm-record-kit-deal-with-nike.

Luis Suarez contract expires in 2019 on the game when in real life his contract is until 2021.

also the next Barcelona presidential election is in 2021 in real life on the game it happens in 2018.

hope these obvious issues are sorted for full release but given the lack of feedback I'm not confident they will be

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3 hours ago, Vicz said:

@Simon Tipple there's literally been no researcher engagement in this thread, at least not for a long time. I know you all are busy but surely something wrong here?

Hi @Vicz, we have been receiving regular updates from our Spanish research team over the past couple of weeks so I'd hope issues have been addressed but I'll give them a nudge towards this thread. Thanks. 

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Everything that was considered an error/ a valid suggestion has been reported from our side as soon as possible, and many of the reported errors will be fixed for final version / next data update.

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Lionel Messi should start as retired from National Team. At least for the rest of 2018. He hasn't confirmed if he'll return for 2019 yet

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In the Argentinian team, we discuss it a lot -not only Messi but Di Maria, Banega and Higuain too- and we decided to leave it like that, at least until we have more certainty about it or at least a proper Manager confirmed.

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23 hours ago, Zoiberg said:

Everything that was considered an error/ a valid suggestion has been reported from our side as soon as possible, and many of the reported errors will be fixed for final version / next data update.

Thanks!

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Giorgian De Arrascaeta has basque nationality. Why? Athletic can buy him in the game and I don't think that is realistic.

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Gerónimo Rulli has random values at Aggression, Composure, Dirtiness, Flair, Leadership, Movement, Team Work, Sacrifice despite playing more than 100 matches for Real Sociedad. WTF.

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3 hours ago, feche said:

Gerónimo Rulli has random values at Aggression, Composure, Dirtiness, Flair, Leadership, Movement, Team Work, Sacrifice despite playing more than 100 matches for Real Sociedad. WTF.

We'll ask R. Sociedad researcher to complete his profile for next phases. Please keep the posts polite, otherwise you'll be reported & ignored. Thanks.

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3 hours ago, feche said:

Giorgian De Arrascaeta has basque nationality. Why? Athletic can buy him in the game and I don't think that is realistic.

You should ask Brazilian research, we haven't reviewed the player ever or asked about it to be added. Anyway, we've asked brazilian HR to remove it. Please, post the errors in the right forum.

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12 minutes ago, Zoiberg said:

You should ask Brazilian research, we haven't reviewed the player ever or asked about it to be added. Anyway, we've asked brazilian HR to remove it. Please, post the errors in the right forum.

Yes, it will be removed.

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6 hours ago, Zoiberg said:

We'll ask R. Sociedad researcher to complete his profile for next phases. Please keep the posts polite, otherwise you'll be reported & ignored. Thanks. 

Fair enough 

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User frustration is understood, but please note that abusing the research teams or SI staff will not be tolerated, so please bear that in mind when you post.

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There are a lot of well known young players who have completely random attributes. Brais Mendez has played nearly 30 times for Celta's first team and has 127 CA and detailed position attributes has no other fixed attributes, which is just bizarre. Apparently a researcher knows him well enough that he's given 12 for MR and 17 for MC, but has no idea how good his dribbling or passing is.

Then there are several established players (for example Dani Garcia at Athletic) who have random determination.

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10 horas atrás, s1111 disse:

There are a lot of well known young players who have completely random attributes. Brais Mendez has played nearly 30 times for Celta's first team and has 127 CA and detailed position attributes has no other fixed attributes, which is just bizarre. Apparently a researcher knows him well enough that he's given 12 for MR and 17 for MC, but has no idea how good his dribbling or passing is.

Then there are several established players (for example Dani Garcia at Athletic) who have random determination.

Indeed and I'll give a few more examples on that, Ruben Blanco from Celta has 4 attributes fixed from his entire set, Adrian Marin from Alavés has only pace set as 13 and nothing else! Former Valencia's Nacho Vidal has quite a few attributes missing although not to the extent of the previous 2.

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I would like to rais a more general issue, that the spanish teams in general are rated to low.  It should be by far the best league and the teams in the segunda etc should also be raised. As it is now, a team like Valladollid, promoted and playing in La Liga is CA-wise worse than many scandinavian teams, worse than most championship teams and would be smashed by all premier league teams with ease. We all know that thats wont happen in real life.

 

My best evidence is the uefa coefficient where Spain is so superior that its hard to explain. Spain: 91000 point, England 69000, Italy 68000, Germany 66000 etc. As you see the other nations are more or less equal, but spanish league is so superior and this is not reflected in the database. 

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hace 1 hora, DiasV dijo:

My best evidence is the uefa coefficient where Spain is so superior that its hard to explain. Spain: 91000 point, England 69000, Italy 68000, Germany 66000 etc. As you see the other nations are more or less equal, but spanish league is so superior and this is not reflected in the database. 

Actually, I think that's very easy to explain: Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, Atlético de Madrid and Sevilla. 

Honestly, I don't see what's the link between Real Madrid winning 3 Champions League and a Valladolid CA increase...

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I have more changes for Valencia CF:

Voro position is Director, not scout (He has never been part of the scouting team).


Luis González is no longer part of the club https://as.com/futbol/2017/12/14/primera/1513264587_496838.html


José de los Santos is no longer part of the club https://www.marca.com/futbol/valencia/opinion/2017/07/08/59611fc422601dcc418b45b2.html


Mario Salvador name must be Mario Jarque.


Antonio Salamanca is no longer part of the club https://plazadeportiva.valenciaplaza.com/la-politica-de-recortes-tambien-afecta-a-la-secretaria-tecnica


Angulo is no longer scout, he is the manager of the U19 B http://www.valenciacf.com/escuelas/plantillas/87175/futbol-11.html?categoria=87177 Considering that the game has only one U19 team (not A and B as Valencia CF has in reality), Angulo could be second coach of the U19 team.


Carlos Arroyo is not the second coach of the U19 Team, he is Delegate at Valencia B, so could eventually be listed as Director http://www.valenciacf.com/escuelas/plantillas/87175/futbol-11.html?categoria=87176
Domingo Catoira must be scout instead of scout manager.


Paco Camarasa position is Delegate of the first team. This role has no equivalent in FM (maybe director is good enough). http://www.valenciacf.com/ver/288/valencia-club-de-futbol-cuerpo-tecnico.html


Higinio Camarasa is no longer part of the club.


Miguel Ángel Bossio is no longer part of the club https://www.superdeporte.es/valencia/2016/06/20/exfutbolista-bossio-despedido-valencia/301013.html


Sebastian Arenz from RB Leipzig is now scout at Valencia CF http://eldesmarque.com/valencia/valencia-cf/noticias/149970-sebastian-arenz-ojeador-valencia
 

Edited by Fernando Tomàs

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eric abidal is general manager 

and josep boada is Chief Scout

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/card/structure-football

 

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2 hours ago, mmkurd77 said:

eric abidal is general manager 

and josep boada is Chief Scout

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/card/structure-football 

 

Unfortunately, Barça structure can't be replied using current FM roles : Josep Segura is the main football charge, a kind of SuperDirector of Football. Eric Abidal is below him, with Planas as a second in charge, and with Boada as chief of scouts. We've adapted the best possible solution. Abidal is nothing related to General Manager or the roles of a General Manager, as he is only in charge of scouting / reporting potential signings.

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Hello there!
Here we go again – Deportivo on FM 19.1:


Loans:
1) Ortola has an optional buy clause on his contract:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/ortola-nuevo-jugador-del-depor1819


2) Why Dubarbier has a clause where 100% of his transfer would go to him? I’ve checked many sources and no signal of that.
He has a one-year renewal clause on his contract:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/dubarbier-nuevo-jugador-del-depor-18-19
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2018/06/15/sebastian-dubarbier-nueva-incorporacion-deportivo/00031529078654377822957.htm


3) Carlos Fernandez has an preferential buy clause:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/carlos-fernandez-no-todo-el-mundo-tiene-la-suerte-de-poder-ir-a-un-club-que-ha-ganado-titulos


4) Domingos Duarte has an preferential buy clause:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/carmelo-la-operacion-de-sidnei-repercute-en-el-equilibrio-economico-del-club


5) Rolan has an optional buy clause on his contract, and Leganes payed for the loan:
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/26/primera/1532619684_618601.html


6) Leganes payed for Juanfran’s loan, and his optional clause of 350k seems unrealistic.
https://www.futbol1.es/noticias/827734/oficial-juanfran-se-va-cedido-con-opci-n-de-compra-al-legan-s.html
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2018/07/03/juanfran-pide-salir-cedido-gratis/00031530645062097500702.htm
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/12/primera/1531410318_828377.html


7) Guillermo May has an optional buy clause on his contract:
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2018/09/07/guillermo-maysueno-triunfar-club/00031536348920850210975.htm
https://www.riazor.org/guillermo-may-de-nacional-jugara-cedido-en-el-fabril-con-opcion-de-compra/


General note on loans:
I understand that maybe in FM 19 it is not possible, or that it would be hard to differentiate Preferential x Optional buy clause at the end of a loan. In the first one, the host club can opt to buy at a determinate price, and the sending club has to accept, as previously negotiated. In the second, if the sending club plans not to use such player in the following season, and are open to sell the player, the recently former host club has the preference to buy the player, if goes up to La Liga. However, the value in this case is not set, and maybe can be even influenced by other potential bidders. This is the case for Domingos Duarte and Carlos Fernandez, as explained by Deportivo’s Director Carmelo del Pozo.
http://www.vamosmisevillafc.com/depor-se-guarda-una-opcion-preferente-carlos-fernandez/
https://www.riazor.org/carmelo-del-pozo-en-algun-caso-exigimos-50-mil-euros-por-tyton-en-otros-poniamos-dinero-siempre-dijo-que-no/
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/carmelo-la-operacion-de-sidnei-repercute-en-el-equilibrio-economico-del-club
Please correct me if I misunderstood.
But maybe this forum is not the appropriate for this debate.

Club / Finances / Competitions:
8) Wage budget, transfer budget and bank balance are not reflecting the real Depor situation:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/carmelo-del-pozo-asegura-que-el-depor-no-ha-pagado-por-ninguna-cesion
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2018/08/23/mercado-enriquece-depor/00031535050299959351590.htm
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2018/10/23/consejo-depor-propone-presupuesto-355-millones/00031540289614685645293.htm


9) Riazor had a roof change and was not available for Depor in the first three Liga 123 games:
https://www.marca.com/futbol/segunda-division/calendario.html
https://www.riazor.org/tino-fernandez-el-aforo-de-riazor-no-estara-disponible-al-100-contra-el-sporting/
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2018/11/01/obras-nunca-acabar/00031541110404221518115.htm


10) Riazor has a Naming Rights sponsorship, but this money is not represented in the sponsorship page:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/anosacasa/abanca-riazor
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/en/new/abanca-and-depor-reach-an-agreement-to-refinance-the-clubs-debt-and-sponsor-the-stadium
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2017/06/29/abanca-concede-depor-credito-45-millones-abordar-nuevos-retos-deportivos/00031498748816515542627.htm


11) Depor has played for second round of Copa del Rey middle September, but in FM he is playing only for the fourth round in the end of October:
https://www.marca.com/futbol/copa-rey/cronica/2018/09/12/5b997d80468aeb844f8b4668.html
Competitions forum?


12) Leaders ok (Bergantiños and Mosquera), but missing players on highly influential rank, where you should add Gimenez and Boveda:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/los-capitanes-del-depor-2018-2019


13) Depor has more than 22k season ticket holders, while only 20k within the game.
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/el-deportivo-supera-los-22-000-socios

Players:
14) Mujaid has Youth Caps and missing history, as he played two La Liga games for A team last season:
https://www.laopinioncoruna.es/deportivo/2018/07/19/mujaid-renueva-contrato-cuatro-temporadas/1311381.html
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mujaid-sadick/profil/spieler/497663


15) Pedro Correia Youth Caps are missing:
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/cantera/2018/07/29/deportivista-pedro-correia-campeon-europa-sub-19-portugal/00031532891773246344251.htm


16) Ricardo Benjamin Youth Caps are missing:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ricardo-benjamim/profil/spieler/478345


Doubt: Youth caps no longer represented on FM? In the past, yes.


17) Victor Garcia is underrated in terms of CA/PA and attributes, and a result of that, he comes at Laracha. He is a first B team player, and has been doing great games lately. He already made his debut for A team:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/anosacanteira/fabril/plantilla-fabril/fabril
http://eldesmarque.com/coruna/deportivo/noticias/23061-victori-garcia-debut-zaragoza
http://www.ogol.com.br/player.php?id=648603


18) Depor has 45 U-19 players, considering “Juvenil A” plus “Juvenil B”, teams which plays different competitions, registered at their website, but in FM19 we have only 9 (Pablo, Alberto, Guillem, Castrin, Gonçalo B., Cesar, Oscar, David and Gonçalo O.). Why?
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/anosacanteira/juvenil-a/plantilla-juvenil-a/juvenil-a
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/anosacanteira/juvenil-b/plantilla-juvenil-b/juvenil-b
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/el-juvenil-deportivista-juan-rodriguez-se-incorpora-manana-viernes-a-la-seleccion-espanola-sub-17
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/el-juvenil-juan-rodriguez-citado-por-la-seleccion-espanola-sub-17


19) Francis seems to have several random attributes, and with that, his attributes are unrealistic high or low most of the times. The same for Edu Exposito and Dani Gimenez. Others?
https://www.riazor.org/albentosa-ejerce-de-nueve/
https://www.marca.com/futbol/segunda-division/zamora.html
https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/2018/11/04/calvario-dani-gimenez/00031541366669876121400.htm
https://as.com/futbol/2018/10/14/segunda/1539516658_563557.html


20) Pedro (GK – Fabril): seems a bit underrated in terms of CA/PA and attributes, as he played the last five games in the starting eleven of Betis last season and did great.
https://es.besoccer.com/noticia/el-depor-incorpora-al-ex-betico-pedro-lopez-para-el-fabril-493460


21) Bonus 1: Chumi, defender of Barça B, seems a bit underrated in terms of CA/PA and attributes, as he already debuted with Barça this season, and has several Youth Caps:
https://www.riazor.org/el-canterano-deportivista-chumi-debuta-con-el-barca/


22) Bonus 2: Ruben Alcaraz (from Valladolid) attributes are not matching his real performances (best recovering balls and nine goals, best within the team, with the majority of that from free kicks, last season in Segunda). He has finishing 5 and Free Kicks taking 11 (10th within Valladolid current FM 19 squad).
https://as.com/futbol/2018/06/06/segunda/1528314658_979967.html

Transfers / Clauses:
23) Depor has a percentage of Borja Galan’s future fee, and also an optional buy back clause on his contract:
https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/20180705/45702299465/borja-galan-ficha-por-el-alcorcon-con-opcion-de-repesca-para-el-depor.html
https://as.com/futbol/2018/07/05/segunda/1530810650_814787.html


24) Depor has not 50% of Ruben Castro future fee, as he rescinded for free with Betis. He left Depor at about 10 years ago:
https://www.marca.com/futbol/las-palmas/2018/07/13/5b48879fe5fdea11588b46a3.html

Staff:
25) Tito is no longer Depor B manager (from October 22nd on).
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/sergio-pellicer-nuevo-entrenador-del-fabril


26) Alejandro Esteve is missing as Depor coach:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/osnosos/plantilla/rc-deportivo/3
http://www.aleventosdeportivos.es/alejandro-esteve-nuevo-entrenador-ayudante-del-r-c-deportivo-la-coruna/
https://www.deporsempre.com/el-deportivo-completa-su-cuerpo-tecnico/
https://www.laopinioncoruna.es/deportivo/2018/07/08/configurado-equipo-dirigira-natxo-gonzalez/1308123.html


27) Depor under 19 Manager is Javi Álvarez, and his assistant Darío Cotelo.
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/anosacanteira/juvenil-a/plantilla-juvenil-a/juvenil-a/3


28) All seven real life Scouts are missing:
http://eldesmarque.com/coruna/deportivo/noticias/21611-organigrama-completo-de-la-secretaria-tecnica


29) Staff A, B and U-19 teams have missing people and some that already left Depor:
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/osnosos/plantilla/rc-deportivo/3
http://eldesmarque.com/coruna/deportivo/noticias/21611-organigrama-completo-de-la-secretaria-tecnica
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/noticia/organigrama-de-anosacanteira-para-la-temporada-2018-19
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/anosacanteira/juvenil-a/plantilla-juvenil-a/juvenil-a/3
https://www.rcdeportivo.es/anosacanteira/fabril/plantilla-fabril/fabril/3

In my point of view, just a few of the 29 above topics can be considered cosmetic ones, but I am engaged to see a FM as close to real life as possible, at least as long as SI states on FM’s website: “THE CLOSEST THING TO DOING THE JOB FOR REAL”.
I play the series since CM 94/95 Italy, and since 2013, I’ve been contacting the researchers offering help and sources of information about Deportivo, through private messages and including through FM-Site, but I have never got a concrete answer back.
For the FM 19 Beta I appointed 31 checkpoints and saw only 11 checked by you to 19.1.
29 standing.
For FM 18 Beta, I have appointed about Deportivo another 13 without looking it in full detail, with only 3 adjusted for 18.1, or even 18.3.
And again, I just would like to help, as I am involved with Depor daily news, and as I watch most of the matches, including some from Fabril.
My points and links above are not based on confidential information; they are just based mainly on the club’s website and newspapers consulted at their websites for free.


Many thanks and kind regards

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2 hours ago, mmkurd77 said:

Will get this updated for next patches. Although Abel Ruiz it's set as 100M€ in our file, maybe he did sign a new contract in your game?

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En 7/11/2018 a las 0:04, tobybilton1 dijo:

This is from a save started during the BETA. Benzema only scored 5 La Liga goals in 17/18 in 32 apps. 

image.thumb.png.c1e619898d59cb5a1fe9aa7894fea835.png

 

You're right, I'll correct that.

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On 06/11/2018 at 15:42, Zoiberg said:

Will get this updated for next patches. Although Abel Ruiz it's set as 100M€ in our file, maybe he did sign a new contract in your game?

NO i started a new save  then i checked all contracts

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On 06/11/2018 at 14:42, Zoiberg said:

Will get this updated for next patches. Although Abel Ruiz it's set as 100M€ in our file, maybe he did sign a new contract in your game?

In the editor there's nothing set for Ruiz, so the game is making it up, it's £18.75M on the game I've just started

Marcus McGuane should have a minimum release fee of €25m, plus Barca have the option of extending his deal for an extra two years (I reported this & several other issues for last years game but doesn't look like any of them were actioned)

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/barca-b/news/2017-2018/agreement-with-arsenal-for-the-transfer-of-marcus-mcguane

He was also born in London

https://www.arsenal.com/historic/players/marcus-mcguane

Juan Miranda is 185cm & 71kg 

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/barca-b/staff/players/2018-2019/juan-miranda

The heights & weights for the are listed on their profiles - a lot of them aren't listed in game

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/barca-b/staff/players

Ballou Tabla's contract should be 3 years not 2, with a minimum release fee of €25m (which rises to €75m if Barca take the 2 year option on him)

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/barca-b/news/2017-2018/agreement-with-montreal-impact-for-transfer-of-ballou-tablaagreement-with-montreal-impact-for-transfer-of-ballou-tabla

Oriol Busquets should have a minimum release fee of €200m, with an option for 2 extra years

https://www.fcbarcelona.es/futbol/barca-b/noticias/2018-2019/oriol-busquets-renueva-hasta-el-2021

Edited by Clintabn

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In the Group 6 (Canarias) Spain Youth Honor the team La Estrella ID 4212232 (Los Santos de Maimona, Extremadura) it is wrong, the correct team is Estrella C.F. ID 67156646 (Vecindario, Canarias).

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Theo Zidane has his brother classed as a father  

 

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En 17/11/2018 a las 20:34, ScottUK97 dijo:

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Theo Zidane has his brother classed as a father  

 

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The Zidanes are a weird family... xD.

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