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Please post any specific issues for Indonesia here. This is for any issue which does not relate to data and is for areas such as:

- Competition Rules (Leagues and Cups)
- Disciplinary Rules
- Transfer Rules

We would request you all to adhere to the following three point plan when posting in here:

- State what you think is specifically wrong in your league.
- State how you think it should be working.
- State reasons/proof for your corrections/improvements.

Please note that specific data issues for Indonesia should be posted in the Database and Research Issues forum.

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@Ed Hewison

- [What is wrong] Indonesian League One - Squad Registration Rules: Maximum of 3 foreign players, Maximum of 2 foreign players (not including Asian players)

- [It should be] Indonesian League One - Squad Registration Rules: Maximum of 4 foreign players, Maximum of 3 foreign players (not including Asian players)

- [Proof] as stated in Indonesian League One manual of 2018 season, article 24 clause 3 and I quote. "Clubs are allowed to register 3 foreign players (non-citizens of Indonesia) and 1 additional foreign player (AFC member citizen)". All Indonesian League One clubs in FM 2019 database already has 3 or more foreign players with 1 additional Asian player.

Regulasi Go-Jek Liga 1 2018_new.pdf

Edited by aganakura

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8 hours ago, aganakura said:

@Ed Hewison

- [What is wrong] Indonesian League One - Squad Registration Rules: Maximum of 3 foreign players, Maximum of 2 foreign players (not including Asian players)

- [It should be] Indonesian League One - Squad Registration Rules: Maximum of 4 foreign players, Maximum of 3 foreign players (not including Asian players)

- [Proof] as stated in Indonesian League One manual of 2018 season, article 24 clause 3 and I quote. "Clubs are allowed to register 3 foreign players (non-citizens of Indonesia) and 1 additional foreign player (AFC member citizen)". All Indonesian League One clubs in FM 2019 database already has 3 or more foreign players with 1 additional Asian player.

Regulasi Go-Jek Liga 1 2018_new.pdf

Thanks @aganakura. This is being looked at.

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Wrong rules for foreign players in Indonesian Cup - 7746536 & Indonesian Super Cup - 7746537. maximum foreign players should be.... Maximum of 4 foreign players (3 foreign players from anywhere in the world & 1 foreign player from AFC nation member).

Source: https://sport.detik.com/sepakbola/liga-indonesia/4003390/regulasi-pemain-untuk-piala-indonesia-2018

Edited by bramcarella

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Indonesian League Two - 41042740 rules for classification are incorrect.
League sorting rules for Indonesian League Two should be like this: 1) Points; 2) Head-to-head; 3) Goal difference; 4) Goal scored; 5) Drawing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Liga_2#First_round

https://int.soccerway.com/national/indonesia/divisi-utama/2018/3rd-round/r45967/

 

Edited by bramcarella

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In FM2019 the Indonesian league still "unplayable" for me, just like in FM2018, some of wrong rules for foreign players and the incorrect number of teams that relegated&promoted from Liga1 & Liga2 and also some bugs with representatives of Indonesian clubs at Asian Club Competitions, this problem has been around since FM2018, and I have hope in the new FM this problem will be fixed but unfortunately on the new FM2019 the same problem still exists. I hope you fix it immediately when the full game is released on November 2nd.

- Wrong Indonesian Teams Qualified to 2018 AFC Club Competitions (AFC Champions League and AFC Cup) - see screenshot - 2 Indonesian representative in 2018 AFC Club Competitions are Bali United & Persija Jakarta, Bali United qualified to AFC Champions League (They are start the journey from Preliminary round 1 and in real life they lost in Preliminary round 2 and after that they dropped down to group stage of the AFC Cup) meanwhile Persija Jakarta Qualified to Group Stage of the AFC Cup.

- The number of relegated teams from Indonesian Liga 1 to Liga 2 is incorrect - see screenshot below. In real life only 3 bottom teams in Indonesian Liga 1 are relegated to Liga 2, and 3 promoted teams from Liga 2 is (Champion, Runner Up and Third Place).

- Continental Qualification for Indonesian Club is incorrect - see screenshot, Champions of Indonesian Liga 1 will qualify to the AFC Champions League preliminary round 1
or AFC Cup group stage, if they lost in AFC Champions League they will drop down to AFC Cup group stage.
Indonesian Liga 1 Runner Up will qualify to AFC Cup play-off round and third placed team will qualify to AFC Cup play-off round but depending from the winner of Indonesian Cup.

 

Source:

1. http://stats.the-afc.com/tournaments/223
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_AFC_Champions_League
http://stats.the-afc.com/tournaments/222
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_AFC_Cup

2. https://liga-indonesia.id/klasemen/go-jek-liga-1-2018/-
https://liga-indonesia.id/klasemen/liga-2-2018/babak-8-besar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Liga_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Liga_2

3. https://liga-indonesia.id/files/uploads/liga 2 2018/regulasi/Regulasi Go-Jek Liga 1 2018_new.pdf
https://liga-indonesia.id/files/uploads/liga 2 2018/regulasi/Regulasi-Liga-2-2018.compressed.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFC_Champions_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFC_Cup

AFC Champions League_ Matches Fixtures & Results.png

AFC Cup_ Matches Fixtures & Results.png

GO-JEK Traveloka Liga 1_ Overview Rules.png

Edited by ryanr88

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On 19/10/2018 at 19:52, bramcarella said:

Wrong rules for foreign players in Indonesian Cup - 7746536 & Indonesian Super Cup - 7746537. maximum foreign players should be.... Maximum of 4 foreign players (3 foreign players from anywhere in the world & 1 foreign player from AFC nation member).

Source: https://sport.detik.com/sepakbola/liga-indonesia/4003390/regulasi-pemain-untuk-piala-indonesia-2018

 

On 19/10/2018 at 20:04, bramcarella said:

Indonesian League Two - 41042740 rules for classification are incorrect.
League sorting rules for Indonesian League Two should be like this: 1) Points; 2) Head-to-head; 3) Goal difference; 4) Goal scored; 5) Drawing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Liga_2#First_round

https://int.soccerway.com/national/indonesia/divisi-utama/2018/3rd-round/r45967/

 

Thanks @bramcarella. This is all now under review. 

Cheers for reporting it to us.

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On 19/10/2018 at 21:01, ryanr88 said:

In FM2019 the Indonesian league still "unplayable" for me, just like in FM2018, some of wrong rules for foreign players and the incorrect number of teams that relegated&promoted from Liga1 & Liga2 and also some bugs with representatives of Indonesian clubs at Asian Club Competitions, this problem has been around since FM2018, and I have hope in the new FM this problem will be fixed but unfortunately on the new FM2019 the same problem still exists. I hope you fix it immediately when the full game is released on November 2nd.

- Wrong Indonesian Teams Qualified to 2018 AFC Club Competitions (AFC Champions League and AFC Cup) - see screenshot - 2 Indonesian representative in 2018 AFC Club Competitions are Bali United & Persija Jakarta, Bali United qualified to AFC Champions League (They are start the journey from Preliminary round 1 and in real life they lost in Preliminary round 2 and after that they dropped down to group stage of the AFC Cup) meanwhile Persija Jakarta Qualified to Group Stage of the AFC Cup.

- The number of relegated teams from Indonesian Liga 1 to Liga 2 is incorrect - see screenshot below. In real life only 3 bottom teams in Indonesian Liga 1 are relegated to Liga 2, and 3 promoted teams from Liga 2 is (Champion, Runner Up and Third Place).

- Continental Qualification for Indonesian Club is incorrect - see screenshot, Champions of Indonesian Liga 1 will qualify to the AFC Champions League preliminary round 1
or AFC Cup group stage, if they lost in AFC Champions League they will drop down to AFC Cup group stage.
Indonesian Liga 1 Runner Up will qualify to AFC Cup play-off round and third placed team will qualify to AFC Cup play-off round but depending from the winner of Indonesian Cup.

Thank for reporting all of this to us @ryanr88.

We have the real-life qualified teams under review already.
Your other two issues are now being looked at.

Cheers!

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Indonesian League One: It says "The match squad cannot have any players aged over 23." but it doesn't implement it, the text just needs to be removed.

 

Loving the game :applause:

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On 02/11/2018 at 04:23, CBush1231 said:

Indonesian League One: It says "The match squad cannot have any players aged over 23." but it doesn't implement it, the text just needs to be removed.

 

Loving the game :applause:

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Me too i have that in my current save and i think it is a bug, in indonesian league that rule is not exist, In Indonesian League this season they have no age restrictions in match squad rules.

Even i try to re-created Indonesian League from scratch with pre-game editor and that rules is still there. like you said that age restrictions rule doesn't implement in game, it is just the text. hope they will remove it in next update.

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Please remove U21 League from Indonesia, Since few years ago we have no league for U21, In Indonesia they have U19 and U16 League. But in FM you don't have U16 team.... So it is impossible to have Indonesian U16 League......... and i think its okay to just add Indonesian U19 League.

https://liga-indonesia.id/klasemen/liga-1-u-19/babak-pendahuluan

 

Edited by bramcarella

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In Liga 2 in Indonesia there's the rule: "Maximum of 0 foreign players" for Squad registration.

 

But in my second season, some AI teams have registered and are using foreign players, the prediction list for top player is full of them (because they are so much better than most indonesian players).  See screenshots of Player David da Silva for example (his stats are showing that he's used, he has no second nationality). It looks like: All the foreign players are in the relegated teams.

Is there some exceptional rule for relegated teams which allows them to use their foreign players for another year (if so, this should be displayed in the rules) or is it a bug?

 

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On 04/11/2018 at 16:45, bramcarella said:

Please remove U21 League from Indonesia, Since few years ago we have no league for U21, In Indonesia they have U19 and U16 League. But in FM you don't have U16 team.... So it is impossible to have Indonesian U16 League......... and i think its okay to just add Indonesian U19 League.

https://liga-indonesia.id/klasemen/liga-1-u-19/babak-pendahuluan

Thanks @bramcarella. This is being looked at now.

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9 hours ago, Kazushi80 said:

In Liga 2 in Indonesia there's the rule: "Maximum of 0 foreign players" for Squad registration.

 

But in my second season, some AI teams have registered and are using foreign players, the prediction list for top player is full of them (because they are so much better than most indonesian players).  See screenshots of Player David da Silva for example (his stats are showing that he's used, he has no second nationality). It looks like: All the foreign players are in the relegated teams.

Is there some exceptional rule for relegated teams which allows them to use their foreign players for another year (if so, this should be displayed in the rules) or is it a bug?

Thanks @Kazushi80.

We are looking into this now,

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb Ed Hewison:

@Kazushi80 - Do you have a save game just before one of the teams is relegated? 

@Ed Hewison - My earliest save game, i still have, is from january 2019 (months before the start of the season in april, but after all of promotion and relegation is already decided, but before the new leagues are decided (name is midseasoncontracts.fm - is already on your server because of another bug i reported). Hope that helps

If you want i can create another save at the end of the 2019 season in december, so maybe the problem is happening again.

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On 06/11/2018 at 19:51, Kazushi80 said:

@Ed Hewison - My earliest save game, i still have, is from january 2019 (months before the start of the season in april, but after all of promotion and relegation is already decided, but before the new leagues are decided (name is midseasoncontracts.fm - is already on your server because of another bug i reported). Hope that helps

If you want i can create another save at the end of the 2019 season in december, so maybe the problem is happening again.

Thanks @Kazushi80. We are taking a look now.

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Second division rules are just ignored by the game. (or should be removed)

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17 hours ago, KUBI said:

Second division rules are just ignored by the game. (or should be removed)

Thanks @KUBI

That rule is going to be removed in future.

As has been said above, it should not be there in the first place.

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In the Indonesian Cup, when you get to the semi-finals, the rules say "Losers quality for the Final."

I tried it out and when I won the semis...I got kicked out...true enough, the losers qualified. This has to be the first tournament in history where that happens!

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On ‎15‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 02:34, Christopher Lewis said:

Thanks for this @cerud. It's already been logged internally.  

Thanks!

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