Vali184 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I've never seen Cleon or Rashidi complain about the 3D graphics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, ClemB said: People are looking for new; not for small details. The game has been the same since 2014 and its getting boring imo. People? You wouldn't be talking for everyone with your opinions, would you? If you can't see that the game has changed in 5 years, then you're quite frankly wrong. Saying you haven't liked any of the changes would be fine, completely understandable, but saying the game has been the same just makes you look a bit silly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vali184 said: I've never seen Cleon or Rashidi complain about the 3D graphics. They have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm.91 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Can we confidently say that FM has better match engine or graphics than LMA manager final release? Stop making excuses for FM. They make a lot of money, they can/should of made much bigger changes. The game is not changing or evolving, just a few little hard coded upgrades every year for tactics etc. If FM shouldn’t be criticsed then they should of kept 2D and never released a poor 3D engine. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, legnerschorsch said: You don´t seem to get that the big tactical overhaul is just a potemkin village as long as the match engine isn´t capable of displaying it. That's fundamental! But many tactics masters doesn't understand that, give them a bunch of sliders, screena and they rejoice like kiddos, no matter it doesn't have any representation on the pitch 😂😂😂 no! They are fookin Mourinho's and shut your mouth 🤣 Edited September 27, 2018 by armbi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, akm.91 said: Can we confidently say that FM has better match engine or graphics than LMA manager final release? Stop making excuses for FM. They make a lot of money, they can/should of made much bigger changes. The game is not changing or evolving, just a few little hard coded upgrades every year for tactics etc. If FM shouldn’t be criticsed then they should of kept 2D and never released a poor 3D engine. You can't serioulsy compare the LMA series match engine to FM's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliente1 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I bought 17 and 18 but i won't buy 19. Because you didn't made any differences from 18. Just a bit make-up and 19 is ready! We don't need new interface, why do you make new interfaces every year? I'm done with it. We don't need var system, watching trainings. You must make better ai! You must improve tactical things! Goodbye FM! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, akm.91 said: Can we confidently say that FM has better match engine or graphics than LMA manager final release? Graphics no. ME yes - given that LMA didn't even have a match engine to speak of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meebee Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) Although i changed my playstyle from 3D to 2D lately, i'd rather have a poor 3D engine than none at all.. its still nice to watch the highlights in 3D (for the sake of immersion - not so much for tactics/management) Edited September 27, 2018 by meebee 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, forameuss said: As always, the best improvements to the game will be the ones that don't get talked about. The minor things that all make the experience that little bit better. This, pretty much. A couple of small new features I liked in FM17 were double-barrelled newgen surnames and newgen female staff members. I'm sure there'll be a few little nuggets in FM19 that SI will either mention only in passing or just leave for us to discover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Guys! Guys! We don't need ME improves! All we need is a lot off useless tactic screens, sliders, new colours, that's enough to feel like Alex Ferguson! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, akm.91 said: Can we confidently say that FM has better match engine or graphics than LMA manager final release? Stop making excuses for FM. They make a lot of money, they can/should of made much bigger changes. The game is not changing or evolving, just a few little hard coded upgrades every year for tactics etc. If FM shouldn’t be criticsed then they should of kept 2D and never released a poor 3D engine. If you're only playing Football Manager for the 3D engine you're playing the wrong game my friend I'd imagine a lot of us are like me and have played FM in days of 'only commentary' Personally I could still play like that now or in 2D. Its the FOOTBALL MANAGEMENT side of the game that is most important. Edited September 27, 2018 by Chris21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 il y a 3 minutes, forameuss a dit : People? You wouldn't be talking for everyone with your opinions, would you? If you can't see that the game has changed in 5 years, then you're quite frankly wrong. Saying you haven't liked any of the changes would be fine, completely understandable, but saying the game has been the same just makes you look a bit silly. Assuming video game consumers dont like big new features was a mistake ? my bad It has barely changed. Some minor tweaks and the 3D looks the same. You would expect much more in 5 years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, ClemB said: Assuming video game consumers dont like big new features was a mistake ? my bad It has barely changed. Some minor tweaks and the 3D looks the same. You would expect much more in 5 years. No, but taking your own opinions and projecting them doesn't really work. There will be people happy with these features, and there will be people who are a lot happier to wait and see how they play before making any kind of tear-stained statement about how nothing ever changes. So it's now gone from "nothing has changed" to "minor tweaks". And the 3D doesn't look the same. It still doesn't look that good, but it demonstrably isn't the same. Out of interest, you say nothing has changed in five years. Did you buy a copy each year? If so, why? And if not, then how can you say nothing changed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm.91 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chris21 said: If you're only playing Football Manager for the 3D engine you're playing the wrong game my friend I'd imagine a lot of us are like me and have played FM in days of 'only commentary' Personally I could still play like that now or in 2D. Its the FOOTBALL MANAGEMENT side of the game that is most important. Sorry, but it’s a poor excuse. FM made the big song and dance over the 3D engine. YouTube videos, constant Twitter/Facebook posts. They promoted this. Now they should get criticised when it’s no longer evolving. Of course we are here for the management side of things. But we want a unique/realistic experience. Is it too hard for this game to even slightly resemble real life football? Match days are tedious on the game, everything is generic and recycled over and over again. They can and should do more. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chris21 said: If you're only playing Football Manager for the 3D engine you're playing the wrong game my friend So you really trying to say that additional tactics screens, modes, sliders are enough to feel football realism??? So you just get satisfaction from moving some sliders, no matter what you will see on the pitch??? Isn't it better then to go just with text match broadcasting? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, armbi said: So you really trying to say that additional tactics screens, modes, sliders are enough to feel football realism??? So you just get satisfaction from moving some sliders, no matter what you will see on the pitch??? Isn't it better then to go just with text match broadcasting? Football management realism. Again if I wanted to see everything looking pretty I'd play manager mode in Fifa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luka_zg Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, armbi said: So you really trying to say that additional tactics screens, modes, sliders are enough to feel football realism??? So you just get satisfaction from moving some sliders, no matter what you will see on the pitch??? Isn't it better then to go just with text match broadcasting? You are just flat out lying here now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 il y a 1 minute, forameuss a dit : No, but taking your own opinions and projecting them doesn't really work. There will be people happy with these features, and there will be people who are a lot happier to wait and see how they play before making any kind of tear-stained statement about how nothing ever changes. So it's now gone from "nothing has changed" to "minor tweaks". And the 3D doesn't look the same. It still doesn't look that good, but it demonstrably isn't the same. Out of interest, you say nothing has changed in five years. Did you buy a copy each year? If so, why? And if not, then how can you say nothing changed? Obviously nothing has changed was an hyperbola. I've been buying a copy every year since 2005. Why? I love the game. But i still feel SI could do a looooot more. Also i've been reporting some issues for years on this forum and many of them have not been fixed. SI lack of creativity imo. They need to think more outside the box so we can have some real new features. I've many ideas but unfortunately i dont work for SI 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted September 27, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted September 27, 2018 Am going to close this lovely thread now so people can engage more directly in the specific blog threads about specific features. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, ClemB said: Obviously nothing has changed was an hyperbola. I've been buying a copy every year since 2005. Why? I love the game. But i still feel SI could do a looooot more. Also i've been reporting some issues for years on this forum and many of them have not been fixed. SI lack of creativity imo. They need to think more outside the box so we can have some real new features. I've many ideas but unfortunately i dont work for SI They have a features list that runs into the 1000's of ideas, and have features set for the next 3 iterations. But features actually time, and development. They aren't just plucked out of the, and hey presto, its in the game. So saying they lack creatively is flat out wrong, and frankly a little insulting. Everyone wants to leave their opinions and feedback behind, but may i point out that people should be respectful while doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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