Rio_V Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 And easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I think it was a harsh penalty. Not sure. Good penalty, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 And the Fortnite celebration is now in the history books! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Really though this is 0-0 after set piece goals are excluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, enigmatic said: One of the most borderline decisions a VAR ref has had to make all tournament as well Yep. In a game of this magnitude it has to be 100% certain, and that was definitely not clear and obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM99 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Aye players should play with their hands tied behind their back now, good one ref/VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 We've got a 40-something commentator calling a World Cup Final penalty "super cool" and the scorer of said penalty dancing like a Fortnite character. The world we live in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grff Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I thought harsh at first but he does kinda move his arm towards the ball. Plus it's in an unnatural position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Wiggins' Young Boys said: That's VAR officially ruining this world cup. Doesn't overturn the griezmann dive, bit allows a penalty for a soft handball VAR is used only for penalties and red cards reviews, not for all fouls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Also when was the handball incident? About 7 mins ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehouse Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Never a penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 I'm really torn right now. I can't support this team, but these two goals are disgusting. Obvious dive not being checked because of a dumb rule and a dodgy penalty being given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Obviously not a penalty, but on the bright side a VAR cock up in the biggest game of all will hopefully stop it’s use in football. I feel sorry for Croatia, I like the way they’ve approached this game. Gone all out to get an early goal knowing they won’t have the legs to chase the game later on, and they’ve been unlucky not to get ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I'd say the reaction from the small quota in here shows it probably wasn't "clear and obvious". Mon Croatia!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Nearly an instant Croatian reply, didn't quite catch it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Haguey said: Really though this is 0-0 after set piece goals are excluded. Nobody's saying you can't be happy for England but how was Croatia's goal from a set piece ffs?! Loads happened after the initial free kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, JDownie said: Also when was the handball incident? About 7 mins ago? In before 2 added minutes #StopClockPlease Just now, Wigmore said: Obviously not a penalty, but on the bright side a VAR cock up in the biggest game of all will hopefully stop it’s use in football. I feel sorry for Croatia, I like the way they’ve approached this game. Gone all out to get an early goal knowing they won’t have the legs to chase the game later on, and they’ve been unlucky not to get ahead. What absolute nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I'm all for Croatia here, but how that is not a penalty? His hand is clearly going down for the ball... It's blink and you'll miss it but it's there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Glad to see Hernandez get booked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Good final this, and Croatia have it in them to get back into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Wigmore said: Obviously not a penalty, but on the bright side a VAR cock up in the biggest game of all will hopefully stop it’s use in football. I feel sorry for Croatia, I like the way they’ve approached this game. Gone all out to get an early goal knowing they won’t have the legs to chase the game later on, and they’ve been unlucky not to get ahead. I personally disagree with the VAR decision, but that post right there really is absolute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJJ Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 VAR is going to be responsible for 90 minutes added time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Wigmore said: Obviously not a penalty, but on the bright side a VAR cock up in the biggest game of all will hopefully stop it’s use in football. I feel sorry for Croatia, I like the way they’ve approached this game. Gone all out to get an early goal knowing they won’t have the legs to chase the game later on, and they’ve been unlucky not to get ahead. VAR has overall been a force for good. This decision comes from the referee. I'd rather the referee get a second chance to look at incidents even if we disagree with the decision. I mean, we disagree with decisions all the time with or without VAR, at least it gives them more of a chance to get things right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Penalty was started by Matuidi protesting. Great decision by a great player. Plays for Juve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Constantine said: I'm all for Croatia here, but how that is not a penalty? His hand is clearly going down for the ball... It's blink and you'll miss it but it's there Matuidi is blocking his view of the ball so I don't think his hand is clearly going anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, JDownie said: Matuidi is blocking his view of the ball so I don't think his hand is clearly going anywhere. Yeah, no chance that he reacted like that on purpose, but his hand wasn't close to his body. And the ball wasn't going on target, that's my biggest gripe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I can understand both sides of the argument for that penalty but how can anyone say its "obviously" not a penalty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, GunmaN1905 said: Yeah, no chance that he reacted like that on purpose, but his hand wasn't close to his body. And the ball wasn't going on target, that's my biggest gripe. Yeah Vida was right there to head it clear if it misses Perisic too. Stupid decision imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I hate VAR. but that is a pen on review. Lifting his leg and bring his hand down to stop the ball. And I wish it wasn’t called. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Serbian tennis player Novak Djokovic said after the Wimbledon final (which he won) that he is supporting Croatia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Weezer said: Nobody's saying you can't be happy for England but how was Croatia's goal from a set piece ffs?! Loads happened after the initial free kick. I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pukey said: VAR has overall been a force for good. This decision comes from the referee. I'd rather the referee get a second chance to look at incidents even if we disagree with the decision. I mean, we disagree with decisions all the time with or without VAR, at least it gives them more of a chance to get things right. Agree the referee has made the poor decision. But something is up with VAR if referees are overturning initially correct decisions to incorrect VAR assisted decisions. It’s happened a few times in the tournament, with the Iran one being the craziest example. Also, didn’t think my post would get such a reaction, I didn’t think I was being that controversial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Great defending by Pogba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 mins he looked at the VAR for 3 mins! What about the time he spent listening to players arguing, all of the goal celebrations, his time fannying about before the pen? Shocking. also France look crap defensively at setpieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Only 3mins, hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, JDownie said: Matuidi is blocking his view of the ball so I don't think his hand is clearly going anywhere. Exactly this. He's no idea where the ball is so how anyone can say his hand's gone to the ball I don't know. His hand's going down because he's coming down too. If the rule is you have to be clear, ref's had a shocker there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: Yeah, no chance that he reacted like that on purpose, but his hand wasn't close to his body. And the ball wasn't going on target, that's my biggest gripe. Well, that changes things... I've only seen VAR replay and focused on his hand and ball. I was going for Coke while that attack was ongoing. My mistake then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 France with 39% possession lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Vida is going to rue two misses on corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 One more goal and it's the most goals in a final since 1986 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, JDownie said: 3 mins he looked at the VAR for 3 mins! What about the time he spent listening to players arguing, all of the goal celebrations, his time fannying about before the pen? Shocking. also France look crap defensively at setpieces. A minute more than I predicted, to be fair And yet people will defend this rolling clock with injury time until they are blue in the face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Wigmore said: Agree the referee has made the poor decision. But something is up with VAR if referees are overturning initially correct decisions to incorrect VAR assisted decisions. Also, didn’t think my post would get such a reaction, I didn’t think I was being that controversial There was nothing wrong at all with VAR then imo, I'm 100% happy with that incident being referred to the referee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, JDownie said: 3 mins he looked at the VAR for 3 mins! What about the time he spent listening to players arguing, all of the goal celebrations, his time fannying about before the pen? Shocking. also France look crap defensively at setpieces. Half time injury time always seems to be artificially short for some reason. One of the arguments for stop clocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Icelander83 said: A minute more than I predicted, to be fair And yet people will defend this rolling clock with injury time until they are blue in the face. TRADITIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Giroud still not had a shot on target this tournament. Kane scored 6 goals and gets all sorts of **** thrown his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 VAR is a positive step overall for football but they need to learn to use it better. And implement a bloody clock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 This is a good game, Croatia the better team but behind, should be a cracking second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Cracking first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 What a first half! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, enigmatic said: Half time injury time always seems to be artificially short for some reason. One of the arguments for stop clocks I remember someone saying in here thst there is a referee from a certain nation (Argentina?) Who ALWAYS gives 1 minute at HT no matter what and usually blows about 50 seconds anyway. How is he even a professional ref? I remember watching that game and he did exactly this when there could have been 3+ given easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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