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Is this better than 451 Pilgrimage? What is your best 451 tactic? I want to rotate between 451 and 442. I already know flat 442 midsomer is the best 442 thus far . Legend knap. Still remember that legendary 4321 from FM08.

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ARGUS or OXFORD 4321 has not been long term tested

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Hey Knap, just for brainstorming;

I saw a thing in your 451 tactics which are Argus and Pilgrimage. You use both wingbacks are on attack duty. Maybe, using Right-Wingback on support duty gives better defensive results. Because Right-IF is on attack duty already. What you say? Is it work?

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Testing and even looking at P&P tactics in general, there is very little indication that different duties for WBs is a workable solution. To be more defensive it is normal better to have both on support. As you know when I go to a SUS both will be on defend, but there are always opportunities to game manage by adjusting WB duties during a game.

If you can make it work then it would be interesting to see how it does with MR L testing.

 

 

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11 hours ago, White Europe said:

getting boring with most of the tactics in worst fm ever;) so,i keep tweaking tactics of fm master = KNAP,

#this is what im trying now 541 

http://www.filedropper.com/541adef

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All cups tactic.

Is this aimed at the underdog?

Are you putting forward for testing as would be worthwhile.

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48 minutes ago, knap said:

All cups tactic.

Is this aimed at the underdog?

Are you putting forward for testing as would be worthwhile.

i will keep tweaking it, its not ready before i win bundesliga with wolsburg;)

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On 20/06/2018 at 01:00, White Europe said:

getting boring with most of the tactics in worst fm ever;) so,i keep tweaking tactics of fm master = KNAP,

#this is what im trying now 541

http://www.filedropper.com/541adef

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This is amazing....wow, normal formation, without 3 strikers in front, with IF, just wow. I simulated a season with Stuttgart, i finished on 2. 

in a old save with Stuttgart i destroyed borussia with 10-1...lost 2 games against bayern with 4-3 and 3-2. 5 goals againt bayern without transfers in 2 matches...

The only problem is with defence, i tested with big teams.

 

 

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In general ARGUS Structed is better for underdogs and PILGRIMAGE Fluid for sub top.

Another option PILGRIMAGE Home ARGUS Away

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On 18/06/2018 at 07:27, omrgul said:

Thanks :)

This Away, and Pilgrimage 451 Home shall work fine.

 

Playing touch I used these tactics/strategy with Porto first season and no transfers.  Only started using tactics October 28, 2017 so 11 games in which I had 8 wins 1 draw and 2 losses.  Since switching to these tactics, 35 games 32 Wins 3 Draws and 0 Losses. 

 In the Champions League I took them to the Semi-Finals where I lost to ManU on pk's.   Aboubakar scored 53 goals in 54 games while Marega added 32 goals, 24 Assists, 10 POM's and a 7.75 Rating from the  AMR slot. 

Thanks @knap for creating 451's that are awesome, fun to play and play my style of football! 

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22 saat önce, mantorras77 said:

Playing touch I used these tactics/strategy with Porto first season and no transfers.  Only started using tactics October 28, 2017 so 11 games in which I had 8 wins 1 draw and 2 losses.  Since switching to these tactics, 35 games 32 Wins 3 Draws and 0 Losses. 

 In the Champions League I took them to the Semi-Finals where I lost to ManU on pk's.   Aboubakar scored 53 goals in 54 games while Marega added 32 goals, 24 Assists, 10 POM's and a 7.75 Rating from the  AMR slot. 

Thanks @knap for creating 451's that are awesome, fun to play and play my style of football! 

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Which 2 tactics you used?

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On 20/07/2018 at 20:04, mantorras77 said:

the one in the OP..I used away and I used KNAP Pilgrimage 451 at HOME

Just a quick one geezer...are you on 18.3.4?I tried the same combo but came unstuck away from home with Argus 451 from what I remember...cheers buddy 

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10 hours ago, ruudvanwarren said:

Just a quick one geezer...are you on 18.3.4?I tried the same combo but came unstuck away from home with Argus 451 from what I remember...cheers buddy 

Yes 18.3.4.  No difference from 18.3.3 anyways. What do you mean by "came unstuck"?

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2 hours ago, mantorras77 said:

Yes 18.3.4.  No difference from 18.3.3 anyways. What do you mean by "came unstuck"?

Argus 451 just never really clicked with my team. Strange considering how well pilgrimage performed at home.

 

I'll give it another whirl & see whether I can get another time from it. I'm playing FM Touch too do i just leave training to your assistant dude?

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3 minutes ago, ruudvanwarren said:

Argus 451 just never really clicked with my team. Strange considering how well pilgrimage performed at home.

 

I'll give it another whirl & see whether I can get another time from it. I'm playing FM Touch too do i just leave training to your assistant dude?

yea that is strange as they're pretty similar....yeah I just leave training to my assistant. Don't be afraid to lower mentality as well.

 

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As with a SUS tactic you  change mentality and duties to be more defensive.

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On ‎03‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 13:50, sor1N said:

This is amazing....wow, normal formation, without 3 strikers in front, with IF, just wow. I simulated a season with Stuttgart, i finished on 2. 

in a old save with Stuttgart i destroyed borussia with 10-1...lost 2 games against bayern with 4-3 and 3-2. 5 goals againt bayern without transfers in 2 matches...

The only problem is with defence, i tested with big teams.

 

 

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hi mate download link doesn't work?

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Shut up Shop or close game out as part of game management. Also useful after a sending off,

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Occasionally against very strong opposition away, I use it as a Park the Bus, being defensive all game.

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On 01/08/2018 at 13:02, knap said:

Occasionally against very strong opposition away, I use it as a Park the Bus, being defensive all game.

@knap you've always created a SUS tactic but how about a tactic for if you're losing and need goal(s) near the end of game?

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In theory the tactic should be the best form of attack, but there are tactics like BM 415

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6 dakika önce, knap said:

That is a stonking result.

How many years and any other favourites?

It's the second, also this one is from the first season;

 

 

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It will be interesting to see if PSG change their tactic in future years, as 2 hefty defeats.

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17 dakika önce, knap said:

It will be interesting to see if PSG change their tactic in future years, as 2 hefty defeats.

I lost against PSG 2-3 times actually, but sometimes this tactic gives incredible and extraordinary results. Thanks a lot :)

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6 hours ago, casinoroyale said:

Knap, I have been using your tactics for years but this one is definitely terrorizing the game...

 

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which tactic is this?

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