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Harry Kane scored more World Cups goals tonight than Wayne Rooney did in three tournaments.

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Just now, Weezer said:

Tunisia offered absolutely nothing since the penalty so it's hard to have much sympathy.

Quite a lot of nations in this tournament that look as though the only way they're ever going to score is a penalty or an OG.

Yeah, absolutely zero sympathy for them. Did absolutely nothing other than get a penalty, played ***** first half and should have given away at least two penalties themselves.

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Lucky win, but Englad has to improve massively if they want to progress in the later stages.

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Just now, EnterUsernameHere said:

England look incapable of a non-set piece goal themselves.

At least we created, rather than our usual thing of no vision at all

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How many stoppage time winners/equalisers is that now under Southgate?

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Well done England, not amazing or good but not poor, just average/decent all round, especially for a first game in a  tournament with a ridiculously young squad who have little tournament/international experience and who know any simple mistake gets a huge amount of pressure lumped on them and can even finish some for good...some in this thread have been a complete tabloid embarrassment tonight...you know who you are...on to the next game and qualification from the group hopefully.

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Very much looking like the tournament of important late goals so far.

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Think it has to be reiterated how absolutely woeful Southgate is. No real effort to make a difference during the game with subs until so late, even kept a player on for 35ish minutes who clearly had a knock before HT and did nothing in the 2nd half.

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Ref was a bit of a special one.

We made it hard for ourselves but probably deserved it on balance. Not sure when VAR comes into play, but some of the wrestling moves from Tunisia at corners really warranted some attention.

Not convinced by Maguire defensively, Sterling didn't do anything of note, but three points is what matters. Great to see Kane net a couple and get the confidence up.

Oh - and I for one LOVED Southgate going mental at 2-1.

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3 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:

 

He clearly got a call, pulls back at the last second

Don't care, he should be smacking that. Not like he didn't have a clear sight at goal.  Just hit it! 

 

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If Germany don't top their group, we beat Panama, tactically lose to Belgium and play Mexico, smash them, smash whoever in the Quarters and cruise into the semis.

Easy. :cool::thup:

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40 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said:

Ffs why can't we have the Man City Sterling :mad:

Because, obviously, you'd need the Man City England.

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Such a bad second half just slow and pedestrian like but considering we were good in the 1st half and went in level I'll take that, this is a raw team that's developing and a win is all that matters, Tunisia were really poor both halves but defended better second half as that sat deep, wasted time and got the majority of ref decisions too, get in England, fully deserved in fairness.

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Fully the better team, missed numerous chances and England finally paid the price with Tusinia getting the equalizer.

Two penalty's should've been given but England didn't help themselves, thank god for Kane.

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1 minute ago, Haguey said:

If Germany don't top their group, we beat Panama, tactically lose to Belgium and play Mexico, smash them, smash whoever in the Quarters and cruise into the semis.

Easy. :cool::thup:

Could be wrong but think you've got groups mixed up. You'd play group H, no?

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1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

Rio reckon teams will fear England :D

He must mean Panama. But then why the plural?

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Just now, EnterUsernameHere said:

Could be wrong but think you've got groups mixed up. You'd play group H, no?

You're right, smash Poland and then Mexico. :D

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3 minutes ago, Marc Albrighton said:

Loftus Cheek was the sub that won us the game.

Had nothing to do whatsoever with the goal but ok :D

If anyone did either Harry Kane won us the game as he scored the goal(s) or Stones getting both headers from corners however it's a team effort ;)

Edited by Hodgy

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11 minutes ago, Dave Vessey said:

Why do we still have three centre backs?  Terrible management.

I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. 

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Just now, warlock said:

I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. 

Hes been pushing this identity since he arrived pretty much hasn't he? He wasn't going to change it in the first game.

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Sterling should not start the next game. He was rubbish.

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Should've been 4-1 though with two ridiculously clear penalties not given.

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And breathe. I'll give me thoughts a lot later. 

That was a ****ing rollercoaster of emotions.

 

Optimism - confidence - injustice - disappointment - frustration - pessimistism - acceptance - wtf (Rashford dummy) - elation - reflection. 

 

I'm emotionally pooped 😂

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6 minutes ago, warlock said:

I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. 

Because two of them are John Stones and Kyle Walker, and the other one is Harry Maguire.

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2 minutes ago, Marc Albrighton said:
3 minutes ago, warlock said:

I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. 

Hes been pushing this identity since he arrived pretty much hasn't he? He wasn't going to change it in the first game.

Yeah, I get that. But a good manager will play the game - and the team - in front of you, not the textbook.

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Absolutely nothing wrong with playing 3 at the back, even against a defensive opponent.

Only issue I'd have is that with a pretty capable trio of ball playing defenders, they each should have been a bit more aggressive in attacking movements when they had the opportunity.

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1 minute ago, Weezer said:

Because two of them are John Stones and Kyle Walker, and the other one is Harry Maguire.

You may be right. I thought Stones did Ok, and Walker wasn't bad apart from the dumb penalty. But against a team like that, I think a back four with Stones and Cahill in the middle would have given us an extra man in midfield.

Still, he won, so Gareth is OK with me... so far.

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I thought England were really good, a little panicky for parts of the second half but to be expected. The winner was fully deserved.

Even if it ended at 1-1 I would have been pretty impressed, just far better than expected. It was like watching a proper football team for the first time in 16 years.

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England when they're playing with energy and pace are a decent team.

England playing slow are very average.

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Tunis is a very very limited side, and England made them look like a solid foe. That's what I saw tonight.

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7 minutes ago, Ackter said:

Sterling should not start the next game. He was rubbish.

I think I would rather switch Rashford for Ali than Sterling.

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1 minute ago, warlock said:

You may be right. I thought Stones did Ok, and Walker wasn't bad apart from the dumb penalty. But against a team like that, I think a back four with Stones and Cahill in the middle would have given us an extra man in midfield.

Still, he won, so Gareth is OK with me... so far.

We did have an extra man though, one of the CB's was pushed up into the midfield when in possession, so it was much of a muchness to be honest.

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1 minute ago, Wigmore said:

I thought England were really good, a little panicky for parts of the second half but to be expected. The winner was fully deserved.

Even if it ended at 1-1 I would have been pretty impressed, just far better than expected. It was like watching a proper football team for the first time in 16 years.

I agree with this, I thought it was overall decent with some very good moments.  Should beat Panama quite easily after seeing this and I could see Tunisia causing Belgium a problem yet still.  

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9 minutes ago, Hodgy said:

Had nothing to do whatsoever with the goal but ok :D

If anyone did either Harry Kane won us the game as he scored the goal(s) or Stones getting both headers from corners however it's a team effort ;)

Helped win the corner that led to the goal.

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1 minute ago, Redshift said:

I think I would rather switch Rashford for Ali than Sterling.

Ali was struggling the entire game. No idea why he wasn't taken off after the big hit early on.

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