georginho_juventusygr Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 THE WORLD CUP IS COMING HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, EnterUsernameHere said: England look incapable of a non-set piece goal themselves. At least we created, rather than our usual thing of no vision at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 How many stoppage time winners/equalisers is that now under Southgate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Well done England, not amazing or good but not poor, just average/decent all round, especially for a first game in a tournament with a ridiculously young squad who have little tournament/international experience and who know any simple mistake gets a huge amount of pressure lumped on them and can even finish some for good...some in this thread have been a complete tabloid embarrassment tonight...you know who you are...on to the next game and qualification from the group hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 That was an intriguing footie match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 THE MOST PASSIONATE FANS IN THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 The state of Southgate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Very much looking like the tournament of important late goals so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Rio reckon teams will fear England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Think it has to be reiterated how absolutely woeful Southgate is. No real effort to make a difference during the game with subs until so late, even kept a player on for 35ish minutes who clearly had a knock before HT and did nothing in the 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 That ref needs to be nowhere near any of our future games in this competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Ref was a bit of a special one. We made it hard for ourselves but probably deserved it on balance. Not sure when VAR comes into play, but some of the wrestling moves from Tunisia at corners really warranted some attention. Not convinced by Maguire defensively, Sterling didn't do anything of note, but three points is what matters. Great to see Kane net a couple and get the confidence up. Oh - and I for one LOVED Southgate going mental at 2-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Sandman Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Tbf the formation suits tougher opposition. That’ll do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbrother Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 sign of winners that our year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: He clearly got a call, pulls back at the last second Don't care, he should be smacking that. Not like he didn't have a clear sight at goal. Just hit it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 If Germany don't top their group, we beat Panama, tactically lose to Belgium and play Mexico, smash them, smash whoever in the Quarters and cruise into the semis. Easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: Ffs why can't we have the Man City Sterling Because, obviously, you'd need the Man City England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Loftus Cheek was the sub that won us the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Such a bad second half just slow and pedestrian like but considering we were good in the 1st half and went in level I'll take that, this is a raw team that's developing and a win is all that matters, Tunisia were really poor both halves but defended better second half as that sat deep, wasted time and got the majority of ref decisions too, get in England, fully deserved in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djstu23 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Fully the better team, missed numerous chances and England finally paid the price with Tusinia getting the equalizer. Two penalty's should've been given but England didn't help themselves, thank god for Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedwar Pump Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Kane was awful apart from the goals to be fair. Looked to be a performance pretty much at the level you'd expect from England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 goal is justice for the ref and var joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Haguey said: If Germany don't top their group, we beat Panama, tactically lose to Belgium and play Mexico, smash them, smash whoever in the Quarters and cruise into the semis. Easy. Could be wrong but think you've got groups mixed up. You'd play group H, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Rio reckon teams will fear England He must mean Panama. But then why the plural? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcconnell1 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, EnterUsernameHere said: Could be wrong but think you've got groups mixed up. You'd play group H, no? You're right, smash Poland and then Mexico. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Marc Albrighton said: Loftus Cheek was the sub that won us the game. Had nothing to do whatsoever with the goal but ok If anyone did either Harry Kane won us the game as he scored the goal(s) or Stones getting both headers from corners however it's a team effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dave Vessey said: Why do we still have three centre backs? Terrible management. I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 The Welsh one has gone suspiciously quiet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, warlock said: I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. Hes been pushing this identity since he arrived pretty much hasn't he? He wasn't going to change it in the first game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Sterling should not start the next game. He was rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Justice was done in the end, thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Should've been 4-1 though with two ridiculously clear penalties not given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 And breathe. I'll give me thoughts a lot later. That was a ****ing rollercoaster of emotions. Optimism - confidence - injustice - disappointment - frustration - pessimistism - acceptance - wtf (Rashford dummy) - elation - reflection. I'm emotionally pooped 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, warlock said: I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. Because two of them are John Stones and Kyle Walker, and the other one is Harry Maguire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Marc Albrighton said: 3 minutes ago, warlock said: I'm no tactics expert but I wondered - from the first minute - why we needed three CBs against Khazri. Hes been pushing this identity since he arrived pretty much hasn't he? He wasn't going to change it in the first game. Yeah, I get that. But a good manager will play the game - and the team - in front of you, not the textbook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sned Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Absolutely nothing wrong with playing 3 at the back, even against a defensive opponent. Only issue I'd have is that with a pretty capable trio of ball playing defenders, they each should have been a bit more aggressive in attacking movements when they had the opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Weezer said: Because two of them are John Stones and Kyle Walker, and the other one is Harry Maguire. You may be right. I thought Stones did Ok, and Walker wasn't bad apart from the dumb penalty. But against a team like that, I think a back four with Stones and Cahill in the middle would have given us an extra man in midfield. Still, he won, so Gareth is OK with me... so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I thought England were really good, a little panicky for parts of the second half but to be expected. The winner was fully deserved. Even if it ended at 1-1 I would have been pretty impressed, just far better than expected. It was like watching a proper football team for the first time in 16 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 England when they're playing with energy and pace are a decent team. England playing slow are very average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Tunis is a very very limited side, and England made them look like a solid foe. That's what I saw tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ackter said: Sterling should not start the next game. He was rubbish. I think I would rather switch Rashford for Ali than Sterling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedwar Pump Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, warlock said: You may be right. I thought Stones did Ok, and Walker wasn't bad apart from the dumb penalty. But against a team like that, I think a back four with Stones and Cahill in the middle would have given us an extra man in midfield. Still, he won, so Gareth is OK with me... so far. We did have an extra man though, one of the CB's was pushed up into the midfield when in possession, so it was much of a muchness to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Wigmore said: I thought England were really good, a little panicky for parts of the second half but to be expected. The winner was fully deserved. Even if it ended at 1-1 I would have been pretty impressed, just far better than expected. It was like watching a proper football team for the first time in 16 years. I agree with this, I thought it was overall decent with some very good moments. Should beat Panama quite easily after seeing this and I could see Tunisia causing Belgium a problem yet still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hodgy said: Had nothing to do whatsoever with the goal but ok If anyone did either Harry Kane won us the game as he scored the goal(s) or Stones getting both headers from corners however it's a team effort Helped win the corner that led to the goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Redshift said: I think I would rather switch Rashford for Ali than Sterling. Ali was struggling the entire game. No idea why he wasn't taken off after the big hit early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, warlock said: You may be right. I thought Stones did Ok, and Walker wasn't bad apart from the dumb penalty. But against a team like that, I think a back four with Stones and Cahill in the middle would have given us an extra man in midfield. Still, he won, so Gareth is OK with me... so far. Trouble is Southgate has spent his entire tenure so far trying to create an 'identity', he couldn't just change the team shape in the first game because it wasn't working. Fwiw I think the whole idea of an identity is rubbish, you play to win each game and sometimes different things work against different opponents and you should be able to adapt to that. The English way of creating an 'identity' seems to be to pick a tactic and stick to it rigidly without ever changing or reacting to the current match. That's not having an identity, that's having no Plan B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: Don't care, he should be smacking that. Not like he didn't have a clear sight at goal. Just hit it! He obviously thought the person behind had a better shot. Really weird thing to be annoyed about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlock Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, Ackter said: Ali was struggling the entire game. No idea why he wasn't taken off after the big hit early on. Largely agree, although he looked pretty sharp until the injury. In fact, everyone looked pretty good for the first 15-20 minutes. Obviously Kane with two goals is going to get the plaudits, but I thought Trippier was excellent all game, and on another night Lingard could have scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 The smugness in the BBC studio is hilarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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