Rob1981 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Always bossing the diddy CONCACAF teams and qualifying with ease. Always in the top 15-20 or so in the World rankings. Always getting through the group stage without anyone really noticing them or calling them contenders. But they haven't won a knockout game since 1986. An even worse record than England! Had absolutely rotten luck with the draws down the years and some dodgy decisions: 1998 - Came through their group unbeaten but then had to play Germany in the R16 and conceded the winning goal five minutes from time. 2002 - Actually won their group but still got paired with their big rivals USA in the R16 rather than an easier opponent elsewhere 2006 - Into the R16 and had to play Argentina and lost to the Rodriguez wonder goal in extra time 2010 - Into the R16 and had to play Argentina (again), lost to a dodgy offside goal 2014 - Into the R16 and had to play Holland, lost to a dodgy stoppage time pen after Robben took a dive This time if they finish second behind Germany in their group then their second round opponents will probably be Brazil. Really felt for Ivory Coast as well when they got their "golden generation" together and managed to qualify for their first couple of WCs. Then they were paired with Argentina and Holland in the groups in 2006 and with Brazil and Portugal in the groups in 2010. Never even made the knockout round. But Mexico have got to be the unluckiest with the draws surely? Always a top team on paper and not been through a knockout round for 32 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 That’s the problem with only having a single seeded group, FIFA should bring back the old 4 seeded groups system & be done with the regional pot nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 FIFA have done that already though. This time Mexico were in Pot 2 based on their FIFA ranking instead of being in with all the tinpot teams. Still get Germany in the group and (probably) Brazil in the R16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmcconnell1 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Rob1981 said: 2006 - Into the R16 and had to play Argentina and lost to the Rodriguez wonder goal in extra time Hadn't actually realised how unlucky Mexico had been, had some awful draws in the R of 16 But that Rodriguez goal............ bon apetit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynlcfc Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Expecting Lozano to have a good tournament and get a move to a big European League, although not as if he is an unknown quantity already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Not this time I fear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 How good were Argentina in that 2006 World Cup though? What a side. That was the year they scored the goal against Serbia & Montenegro after a million passes. Still only made the quarters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted May 21, 2018 SI Staff Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 18/05/2018 at 09:29, Rob1981 said: 2014 - Into the R16 and had to play Holland, lost to a dodgy stoppage time pen after Robben took a dive Wrong. Era un penal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Maxi Rodriguez :***************) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Does anyone in here actually follow Mexican football? The reason I ask is because the world cup e-magazine that @Readingfanman & I are putting together is currently about 74 pages, and Mexico is one of the teams we don't have a contributor for. FWIW it's a charity magazine with all proceeds going here: www.justgiving.com/savethepunter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, paz said: Does anyone in here actually follow Mexican football? The reason I ask is because the world cup e-magazine that @Readingfanman & I are putting together is currently about 74 pages, and Mexico is one of the teams we don't have a contributor for. FWIW it's a charity magazine with all proceeds going here: www.justgiving.com/savethepunter I think @deltablue does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Robben was a scum. They should have gone home after that match. We probably could have gotten a more interesting final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, G-Man11 said: I think @deltablue does. Nope, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, deltablue said: Nope, sorry. Must have mixed you up with someone else, weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Either that or you over-estimated my Mexican-ness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted May 22, 2018 Administrators Share Posted May 22, 2018 18 hours ago, paz said: Does anyone in here actually follow Mexican football? The reason I ask is because the world cup e-magazine that @Readingfanman & I are putting together is currently about 74 pages, and Mexico is one of the teams we don't have a contributor for. FWIW it's a charity magazine with all proceeds going here: www.justgiving.com/savethepunter I can vouch for @Bigpapa42 - I believe he does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Thanks Lucas. I do indeed follow Mexican football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 18/05/2018 at 12:18, danmcconnell1 said: Hadn't actually realised how unlucky Mexico had been, had some awful draws in the R of 16 But that Rodriguez goal............ bon apetit. An 18-year old Messi actually scored the winning goal in that game in stoppage time, but got wrongly called off for offside. 50 seconds in. I still reckon that if it wasn't called off, he'd have played against Germany and they'd have beaten them and gone to the semis at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readingfanman Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Bigpapa42 said: Thanks Lucas. I do indeed follow Mexican football. @paz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Mexico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merry_miller Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Mexico going for the group win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Mexico are sleeping giants, should be as good as Brazil and Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, merry_miller said: Mexico going for the group win Brazil v Germany in the round of 16. So England's quarter final opponent one from Serbia or Switzerland or Mexico. It's coming home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubos Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Didn't need any luck this time round, well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Heard lots before the WC about Mexico being ace...today that happened...always loved Mexico, chuffed for them today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan045 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, PMLF said: Mexico are sleeping giants, should be as good as Brazil and Argentina. How’s that work? What are we basing them off to be sleeping giants? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, ryan045 said: How’s that work? What are we basing them off to be sleeping giants? Population, interest in soccer within the nation, strength of domestic league, performance at youth tournaments, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, ryan045 said: How’s that work? What are we basing them off to be sleeping giants? Big population, huge football popularity and their football culture is similar to Brazil and Argentina. They also have a strong domestic league (as good as Brazil and Argentina). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceCrusher Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I agree, Mexico national team has always been strangely "weak" compared to the powerhouse it should be. But for some reason they refuse to produce world class players. Similar things happens to countries like Russia and Turkey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbrother Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 All the good teams choking, no Italy, no Holland... its blatantly our year. We could get a bye through to the Final at this rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bestbrother said: All the good teams choking, no Italy, no Holland... its blatantly our year. We could get a bye through to the Final at this rate Knowing our luck we'll choke against Tunisia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, bestbrother said: All the good teams choking, no Italy, no Holland... its blatantly our year. We could get a bye through to the Final at this rate Tunisia is so going to beat you now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbrother Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, decapitated said: Knowing our luck we'll choke against Tunisia 4-0 Tunisia 7-1 Panama Bung the Belguim game to ensure we get in the Mexico half. Dink the Colombians.. Mexico get waved off. Who is the Semis, dosent matter, penalties.. and the Final, we are unbeaten in Finals, so WINNERS. Cant believe it tbh, really cant. World Cup Winners in my lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan045 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, decapitated said: Population, interest in soccer within the nation, strength of domestic league, performance at youth tournaments, etc. 21 minutes ago, PMLF said: Big population, huge football popularity and their football culture is similar to Brazil and Argentina. They also have a strong domestic league (as good as Brazil and Argentina). Valid points. I don’t think population should be a factor though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 More dark horses than sleeping giants. They've always been in the competition, usually in the knockout stages, always had enough strength and depth to be competitive in them but never actually done anything on the world stage outside the Olympics and Confederations Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Yeah dark horses more appropriate than sleeping giants. Didn't realise they had that sort of WC record. They do kinda just go under the radar tbf, win or lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-soccer-worldcup-ger-mex-mexico/mexicans-jubilant-over-world-cup-win-trigger-earthquake-sensors-idUSKBN1JD125? Quote Mexicans jumping in jubilation on Sunday shook the ground hard enough to set off earthquake detectors and throngs danced in the streets after their team scored a surprise victory over World Cup defending champion Germany Elated fans waved Mexican flags and donned traditional “sombrero” hats at the iconic Angel of Independence monument in downtown Mexico City as they sang the country’s unofficial soccer anthem, “Cielito Lindo,” or “Pretty Little Sky,” a popular folksong. In the city’s massive main square, families in Mexican football jerseys had watched on a giant screen in front of a towering cathedral as Mexico beat Germany 1-0 in Moscow. When star player Hirving Lozano scored a goal in the 35th minute, supporters jumped up and down, shouting, “Yes, we did it!” The Institute of Geological and Atmospheric Investigations said highly sensitive earthquake sensors registered tremors at two sites in the capital seven seconds after the game’s 35th minute. It called them an “artificial” quake. Fans on social media celebrated goalkeeper Guillermo Ochoa’s performance, circulating memes depicting him as president of Mexico. Others riffed on U.S. President Donald Trump’s pledge to build a border wall between the United States and Mexico, placing photos of Ochoa guarding the goal alongside the caption “Hey! We already have a wall.” Another popular meme depicted German Chancellor Angela Merkel holding a phone to her ear with the text: “Donald? It’s me Angela. Please build the wall.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermon Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 mexico to win the world cup at 50/1 doesn't look that bad a value Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 15 hours ago, PMLF said: Mexico are sleeping giants, should be as good as Brazil and Argentina. 12 hours ago, decapitated said: Population, interest in soccer within the nation, strength of domestic league, performance at youth tournaments, etc. 12 hours ago, PMLF said: Big population, huge football popularity and their football culture is similar to Brazil and Argentina. They also have a strong domestic league (as good as Brazil and Argentina). Newcastle United are sleeping giants, should be as good as Manchester City and United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Rob1981 said: Brazil v Germany in the round of 16. So England's quarter final opponent one from Serbia or Switzerland or Mexico. It's coming home As soon as we start projecting ahead into the draw ... you know what's coming next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Hodgy said: Newcastle United are sleeping giants, should be as good as Manchester City and United. No reason they can't to be honest. In the PL with a club and stadium as big as they are, they could easily be as big as say Spurs, who are as good as United and City over the last 3/4 years. Difference is really in the way the clubs are run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Shouldn't have messed up against Sweden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, georginho_juventusygr said: Shouldn't have messed up against Sweden. It's alright. They'll just do to Brazil what they did to Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 tbf they've got Brazil but they've still had some luck today. Lost 3-0 to a pretty mediocre Sweden side yet still get through because of the other result going against the form book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: tbf they've got Brazil but they've still had some luck today. Lost 3-0 to a pretty mediocre Sweden side yet still get through because of the other result going against the form book. Would have been hella unlucky to go out with 6 points though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 They were lucky South Korea showed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 well they just had some, nearly did a spurs and finished 3rd in a 2 horse race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Seriously, shouldn't have f***** up against Sweden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Think Mexico showed why they never seem to get past the last 16 today, can't do it under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 If you lose every time you meet a big team in the knockout rounds it's not really bad luck tbh, you're at a level below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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