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The latest rumour is that Trent-Alexandor Arnold is in. He has only played half a season what is going on now he's playing in a world cup?

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Would love to see Leon Bailey named in the squad just for Blue Lou's reaction after the couple of threads he started about how he isn't illegible.

Bailey's just posted an instagram picture with the caption 'humble lion'. Whether he has timed his post for maximum attention or not - it's certainly fueling speculation now.

Edited by Tony85

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Shame there's no Sancho but can't really complain about most of the selections.

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Just now, Baptista_8 said:

Alexander-Arnold, not been convinced by him at all...hmmm...

The Baptista seal of approval.

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Just now, DeafParrot said:

The Baptista seal of approval.

More football knowledge in my little finger than you son :brock:

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Good to see RLC make the cut. Hope Palace make an offer this summer although this will have definitely pushed up the asking price.

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ENGLAND SQUAD

Goalkeepers: Butland, Pickford, Pope

Defenders: Walker, Trippier, Alexander-Arnold, Stones, Cahill, Jones, Maguire, Young, Rose

Midfielders: Dier, Delph, Henderson, Loftus-Cheek, Lingard, Alli, Sterling 

Forwards: Kane, Rashford, Vardy, Welbeck

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What's sad though is that this was announced at the same time the death of Ray Wilson was announced which may mean people don't take any notice.

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1 minute ago, Baptista_8 said:

More football knowledge in my little finger than you son :brock:

:D :D :D :D 

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In this era of wingbacks and wide forwards, someone needs to decide to just ditch the defender, midfield and striker breakdowns.

Delph and Dier midfielders but Young's a defender...

Rashford's a forward but Ali, Lingard and Sterling are midfielders?

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We've got a really awful midfield there. Good in attack and at full back but thats it. 

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Just now, Baptista_8 said:

The squad bores me tbh...would have loved at least one wildcard.

Isn't an uncapped 19 year old a wildcard?

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1 minute ago, decapitated said:

Isn't an uncapped 19 year old a wildcard?

*attacking wildcard then.

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Dier and Henderson are going to have to play every minute of every game. 

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5 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said:

Key part of a CL final side, why wouldn't he go?

only 6 months ago he started and we knew he was defensively neave. Every time a big time has targeted him they have shipped goals. He is also starting partly not out of choice for Liverpool, granted how that's how people get their opportunities but they were forced their hand really because both Clyne and Gomez were injured. I am not too worried though especially in a 3 man defence and I trust Southgate. He knows best at the end of the day. I also think Trippier, Walker and a right footed left back plus Arnold is a potential unbalanced overload. Man united's play is pretty pedestrian if we have any issues with Rose and Arnold at left wing back would be possibly really throwing him in the deep end. 

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1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said:

Feel like we're one attacker short in that squad. Don't really need 9 defenders.

Agree. But who else is there? Looking at the stats for this year, the leading English scorer not included in the squad is Glenn Murray from Brighton.

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What is the point of Wellbeck over Shelvey really. We only have 1 natural backup attacking midfielder now. At least the teams setup is positionally dynamic, might need it to be...

Callum Wilson is a very good player. What's the point in Lewis Cook anyone?

Edited by Golaxi

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1 minute ago, mark1985 said:

Agree. But who else is there? Looking at the stats for this year, the leading English scorer not included in the squad is Glenn Murray from Brighton.

Haven't got any strikers in the back up players either :D Agree there's not much out there, pretty bad really. 

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Bit disappointed that there is no Shelvey or Lascelles in the squad. Not sure Jones, Cahill, Maguire and Welbeck deserve their places on merit of this season. Would've been interesting to see someone like Grealish given the chance, wasn't a fan of the lad initially but has done well whenever i've watched Villa recently.

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Just now, Golaxi said:

What is the point of Wellbeck over Shelvey really. We only have 1 natural backup attacking midfielder now. At least the teams setup is positionally dynamic, might need it to be...

I'd have had Shelvey in there, but not ahead of Welbeck, would have no attacking players left in the squad :D 

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2 minutes ago, ham_aka_stam said:

I feel like we seriously short of quality in CM.

Definitely are. I'd be starting Delph in there.

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No idea how Rose gets in ahead of Bertrand, but other than that, it's about as good as could've been expected. Just thankful Jake Livermore and Joe Hart didn't get in.

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1 minute ago, ham_aka_stam said:

I feel like we seriously short of quality in CM.

Henderson and Delph like an injury or two as well.

Shelvey or Cook really should be in there.

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Reasonably progressive. Chuffed no Smalling. 

Wellbeck only player I think is a right ruddy bag of *****

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How many midfield minutes has Delph played in the last 2 years? 2 or 3 full games?

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I think Alexander-Arnold is only in because of his versatility as he can cover multiple positions. May be a potential backup CM option as well, aside from being backup to Trippier at RWB.

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16 minutes ago, AM99 said:

Bit disappointed that there is no Shelvey or Lascelles in the squad. Not sure Jones, Cahill, Maguire and Welbeck deserve their places on merit of this season. Would've been interesting to see someone like Grealish given the chance, wasn't a fan of the lad initially but has done well whenever i've watched Villa recently.

Maguire has been decent this season, not perfect by any means, but his inclusion in the squad is justified given that he has performed well for England in the most recent batch of fixtures and he fits Southgates desire to play out from the back.

Edited by martynlcfc

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27 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said:

 

Agreed, need to cap him before his move to Barcelona where he might get tempted by the Republic.

edit- autocorrect.

Edited by sc91

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Just now, sc91 said:

Agreed, need cap him before he’s move to Barcelona where he might get tempted by the Republic.

*massive yawn*

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Crikey we're weak at CM. Have to assume Delph is selected to play there and be emergency left back but still, feels one short. 

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32 minutes ago, ham_aka_stam said:

I feel like we seriously short of quality in CM.

Fixed.

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I'm sad about Wilshere. If he wasn't such a fat chain smoking slob he'd easily be in as our best CM.

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I think he's put the wrong Man United defender in. Would have Smalling over Jones, or at least put Chris Smalling on standby. Phil Jones will probably injure himself walking to his first training session he's that unlucky.

Rest of the squad looks about right though. I dont think Shelvey would have got in because he was never called up in March so was never in consideration. Maybe Euro 2020 for him.

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7 minutes ago, av3ry said:

I think he's put the wrong Man United defender in. Would have Smalling over Jones, or at least put Chris Smalling on standby. Phil Jones will probably injure himself walking to his first training session he's that unlucky.

Rest of the squad looks about right though. I dont think Shelvey would have got in because he was never called up in March so was never in consideration. Maybe Euro 2020 for him.

Jones is more likely to injure himself using his contorted face to keep the ball out.

Smalling is more likely to pull a player down by his shirt giving away a penalty from a nothing attack, AND has less about him on the ball.

For a tournament I'd take a fit Jones every time.

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