Chief Scout Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Knap, if you had to choose among all your FM18 tactics, which three would you say are the best for 1. top team, 2. sub top, 3. underdog.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 ATM 343 is the top formation and only MIDSOMER 442 P103 close to the 343 performance PILGRIMAGE is good for sub top BLUE MATTER for underdog and WOF 2323 for high scoring. Not saying these are ultimately best but added a little bit of variety Top WOF 353 WOF 2323 BLUE MATTER 433 SUB TOP PILGRIMAGE 343 BLUE MATTER 343 MIDSOMER 442 UNDERDOG BLUE MATTER 343 GOODBYE 343 MIDXOMER 442 There are also GOODBYE 3421 and WOF 3412 for added variety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joandrle Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 En 25/03/2018 a las 20:04, JonyRivas dijo: It is so good with Barcelona ! Verry strong defense What tactic do you use?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johangod Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 hey knap. I've been looking at most of your threads and such to try and figure out the plethora of tactics you've posted and try to find a system of tactics to use with my Dortmund side in the 3rd season. I started using your tactics in the middle of my last season which was my 2nd one. I used 343 Blue Matter as my home tactic - used as a favorite, at home against everyone except Bayern in the league and away vs lower sides. I used 343 ARGUS as my away tactic - mostly used away in CL or vs the big, big sides, it worked wonders for most parts, I thrashed Man Utd in the groups 4-1 in one of the first games I tried your tactic, and then later beat Bayern 6-3 at home in the league using it. I did however lose 2-4 away to PSG using it and couldn't run it back in the home game using the 343 Blue Matter, won 2-1 but it wasn't enough. I then use your SUS tactic posted in the ASH thread. Now it's been going well and was insane in the beginning when I used it last season, first like 12 games I rocked everyone and included in that was the Man Utd results and Bayern, I thrashed lower sides, getting a 10-0 win even, I did have a huge hiccup after Bayern game where I played Leverkusen away and lost 0-3 where I did use ARGUS again. And it did seem to be a very dominating system of tactics, the Blue Matter seemed to work super well as favorites and ARGUS really god me some results against the truly big teams. This season started pretty solid but it's been a little less dominating. I'll scrape by 1-0 wins maybe, even had two draws in the league and vs Valencia in the CL. But overall the system works pretty good. I did want to ask if you had any advice for tweaks that won't screw too much with the tactics. Since I feel the SUS is pretty solid I'm good on holding onto a league but how would you chase a goal ? it feels weird to go to the Blue Matter tactic to chase a goal because it's more of a slow build, but ARGUS doesn't seem to help either - it's rock solid as a tactic vs better sides away from home but it doesn't seem to pile on the pressure mid game when trying to grab a goal. Also, when using either tactic would changing the mentality around a little depending on opponent change much? This would mostly be something like using ARGUS away in a CL tie where I don't want to concede but would love to grab some away goals, would going to control or counter be something you'd advice ? Again just some pointers if you have them for trying to get a goal in a game, either if it's 0-0 at like 60th minute or if you go down a goal or two early on. Thanks for all the work on tactics, they work a treat overall but I love having more insight if possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Like the SUS tactic you can change to a lower risk with Control or Counter or by stopping WB runs to defend. WOF 2323 is a very high scoring tactic to use to try get a goal or BLUE MATTER 415 which is very top heavy in attack. The problem with high tempo and high risk 9overload) is that you lose the ball. Don't forget about using subs to try and change game or trying right striker on left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marenzio Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, knap said: Don't forget about using subs to try and change game or trying right striker on left I've always used strikers on the opposite side of their preferred feet; is this wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 If you watch how they move it is to the wings and then cross, so very much looking for the space on wing. Opposite side will have them cut in into the defence. Try it both ways round but generally right on right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 On 5/3/2018 at 19:00, knap said: ATM 343 is the top formation and only MIDSOMER 442 P103 close to the 343 performance PILGRIMAGE is good for sub top BLUE MATTER for underdog and WOF 2323 for high scoring. Not saying these are ultimately best but added a little bit of variety Top WOF 353 WOF 2323 BLUE MATTER 433 SUB TOP PILGRIMAGE 343 BLUE MATTER 343 MIDSOMER 442 UNDERDOG BLUE MATTER 343 GOODBYE 343 MIDXOMER 442 There are also GOODBYE 3421 and WOF 3412 for added variety '343 is the top formation' - which one of your 343's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 PILGRIMAGE is top sub top and WOF All cups best underdog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, knap said: PILGRIMAGE is top sub top and WOF All cups best underdog And which 343 for the top clubs ? Been getting very good results with the MIDSOMER 442 P103. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 All the tactics should work for a top team. What I look for is a maximum of 3 poor games in the 38 league game. This gives a range of 105pts and above with a tam like Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 On 5/5/2018 at 11:37, knap said: PILGRIMAGE is top sub top and WOF All cups best underdog Would you choose the PILGRIMAGE of the WOF for a team like Sampdoria? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 Top is usually top 4 - sub top the next say 6 clubs the rest underdog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Can someone tell me where to find the thread for Knaps 343Lpool fm18 tactic that is top of the underdogs tactics on Mr L testing please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanopedini89 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 ora fa, marksmithlfc1234 ha scritto: Can someone tell me where to find the thread for Knaps 343Lpool fm18 tactic that is top of the underdogs tactics on Mr L testing please ? ARGUS 3-4-3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Scout Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, stefanopedini89 said: ARGUS 3-4-3 It's not ARGUS. It's WOF 343. It's the first tactic. Link below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 BLIE MATTER VOL 8 !!FM18.3.3BLUEMATTERVO8Knap343LPOOLP103.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nijak05 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 playing as PSG - would you recommend the blue matter 433 or 343 as my first option - i like more attacking/goalscoring! if 343 what vers would you recommend ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 The 343 Lpool tactic should be highest scoring but there is very little between the 343s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
肥罗 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 343 is very great. None of the other tactics can be counterbalanced by 343. So when online warfare,All the players use in the game is 343,It's very monotonous. Is there a way to beat 343? Don't just let a tactical rule game. please think of a way,thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 Overview of Tactic List from testing TOTAL SUB TOP UNDERDOG ARGUS FM 18.2.2 P102 P385 P206 P179 PILGRIMAGE FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P104 P380 P226 P154 WOF FM 18.3.3 P101 Flexible P381 P213 P168 WOF FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P100 ALL CUPS P365 P196 P169 PILGRIMAGE Fluid LPOOL P101 P367 P201 P166 PILGRIMAGE FM 18.2 P105 P357 P218 P139 ARGUS VOL 4 FM18.3.3 Structured P101 ALL CUPS P363 P220 P143 BLUE MATTER FM 18.3.3 P105 P356 P207 P149 GOODBYE FM 18.3 VOL 7 Very Fluid P349 P208 P141 GOODBYE 3421 P324 P205 P119 MIDSOMER 442 P103 (FLAT TEST) P349 P199 P150 MIDSOMER 442 VOL MEZ P342 P196 P146 MIDSOMER 343 VOL MEZ P337 P195 P142 WOF 2323 FM 18 P104 P335 P187 P148 BLUE MATTER FM 18.3 VOL 4 P102 352 P335 P206 P129 ASH 343 19,3.3 LPOOLP99 Highly Structured P333 P205 P128 ARGUS 3430 P331 P192 P139 VOLANTE BWM FM 18.3 P101 P326 P191 P135 MM 442 VOLANTE P103 P323 P187 P136 WOF 3412 P325 P198 P127 WOF 2233 P102HS FM 18.2 P311 P194 P117 BLUE MATTER VOL 4 P100 4123 FM 18.2.1 P310 P179 -P131 MMVOLANTEANCHOR 442 P302 P165 P127 ARGUS 352 18.2,2 P101 P306 P169 P137 BLUE MATTER 433 18.3 P295 P158 P137 BLUE MATTER VOL 4 4213 VOLANTE 18.3 P289 P184 P105 PILGRIMAGE 3511 18.2.2 P102 P297 P181 P116 PILGRIMAGE 451 MUP101 18.3.3 P293 P169 P124 MIDSOMER WIDE DIAMOND 18.3 P287 P175 P112 RAMBLE ON ASYMMETRIC18,3 P100 P287 P169 P118 RAW SIENNA 4231 18,2,2 P272 P147 P125 343s totally dominate the tactic testing league. The next best formation is MIDSOMER 442 so I would try this or the ROUTE 66 442 is very direct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubx Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Where can i download the 343s tactic please? Or did you mean in general all tactics with 343? Which 343 tactic is the best? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 The top 343 is ARGUS WITH 385 pts MIDSOMER 442 is the first non 343 tactic at 349pts. I have just seen somebody post beating Man City with a League 2 side 3-0. So 343s have giant killer qualities. The best I saw last year was somebody winning the F A Cup with FC United when in the National league with GOODBYE 3430. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubx Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Argus or pilgrimage for last update 18.3.4 ? Similar? I have plenty of injuries with tactics with high intensity. Whats the solution for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 The long term testing is in 18.3 and no major ME updates since 18.2. BLUE MATTER is lower tempo, and using a SUS lowers intensity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wei jiang Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Is MR L testing useful for 18.3.4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 Yes as no ME changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keadude Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 On 13/06/2018 at 05:57, knap said: BLIE MATTER VOL 8 !!FM18.3.3BLUEMATTERVO8Knap343LPOOLP103.fmf 42.69 kB · 102 downloads Hey Knap, Would you say this is a better version than your Blue Matter 433? I've been using that and it's great for top teams but up and down for sub-top. Would you say this is better? Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 From the list above the BLUE MATTER P105 is the top version. Maybe use BLUE MATTER at Home and ARGUS 343 Away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keadude Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: From the list above the BLUE MATTER P105 is the top version. Maybe use BLUE MATTER at Home and ARGUS 343 Away. Grand. Thanks. i'll give it a whirl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keadude Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 03/07/2019 at 18:52, knap said: From the list above the BLUE MATTER P105 is the top version. Maybe use BLUE MATTER at Home and ARGUS 343 Away. Hey Knap, Sorry to be a pain but when you say Argus 343 for away matches is that the P102 version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 The best versions are as per list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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