^Goose^ Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I'm trying to bring some youth players through in my AC Milan save and i'd like to know how much of a match does a player have to play for it to count as first team match experience? Also, does the player have to actually start the match or does bringing him on as a sub count (assuming he plays enough minutes). Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Ten minutes, I think. Can be as a sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It's been 15 mins (to get a match rating) for a number of years. It seems to have changed to 20 mins and the question has been raised about whether this is intentional or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbcruz Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 39 minutes ago, HUNT3R said: It's been 15 mins (to get a match rating) for a number of years. It seems to have changed to 20 mins and the question has been raised about whether this is intentional or not. Also note that they can get a rating if they score regardless of when they come on. Not sure about assists.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, cbcruz said: Also note that they can get a rating if they score regardless of when they come on. That's always been the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yep, 20 minutes now, unless they score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppo1982 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 21 hours ago, cbcruz said: Also note that they can get a rating if they score regardless of when they come on. Not sure about assists.. I have always wondered about this. When a player scores their rating always goes up. In real life you could be having a stinker and the ball come off your arse and go into the opposition's goal. You could still carry on having a stinker for the rest of the game. Would you really get a 7 or 8 out of ten in such an instance ? I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted January 19, 2018 SI Staff Share Posted January 19, 2018 I looked into this after reading this thread and was surprised it has changed, it turns out it was a mistake - it had been changed to 22 mins rather than 15. For the 18.3 patch we will change it back to 15 minutes - sorry about the confusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, EdL said: I looked into this after reading this thread and was surprised it has changed, it turns out it was a mistake - it had been changed to 22 mins rather than 15. For the 18.3 patch we will change it back to 15 minutes - sorry about the confusion. Awesome, cheers @EdL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal585 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yeah I thought it was around 25 minutes and have been trying to make subs on 55, 60 and 65 to make sure they all get a rating. If they're not on long enough to gain a rating, does that mean they don't gain any notable experience (for either development or happiness)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Cal585 said: Yeah I thought it was around 25 minutes and have been trying to make subs on 55, 60 and 65 to make sure they all get a rating. If they're not on long enough to gain a rating, does that mean they don't gain any notable experience (for either development or happiness)? They need to have a rating for it to count toward development. The OP alluded to this too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
^Goose^ Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Gold star for me for making this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per Annum Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 17:15, EdL said: I looked into this after reading this thread and was surprised it has changed, it turns out it was a mistake - it had been changed to 22 mins rather than 15. For the 18.3 patch we will change it back to 15 minutes - sorry about the confusion. Christ. All those FM hours wasted subbing players on at the 74 minute mark. Tragic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 23 hours ago, ^Goose^ said: Gold star for me for making this thread Well deserved indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Here's an update - you're all wrong (in terms of player development) . How long does a player need to be on the pitch in order for the minutes to count towards player development? The answer is - there is no minimum. Every minute counts for development purposes, so you haven't been wasting your time after all @Per Annum. There is a bonus if a player plays more than 45 minutes, but other than that you're golden. @Cal585 @HUNT3R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @herne79, I've been keeping up. Thanks though. It's always good to get an update on something like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per Annum Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Good to know. 1 fix down, 209432309480239 to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 That thread is 10 years old! All of the advice that I have read has been that the player needs a rating to develop so which is right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, Triffid said: That thread is 10 years old! All of the advice that I have read has been that the player needs a rating to develop so which is right? If you look, you'll see the reply that states this to be the case is 23 hours old and from SI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Thanks... I followed the link but didn't scroll to page 230. Learnt smth new today then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, Triffid said: Thanks... I followed the link but didn't scroll to page 230. Learnt smth new today then. The link takes you directly to the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triffid Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 hours ago, HUNT3R said: The link takes you directly to the post. Not if you're an idiot like me and click the thread title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacticsdude Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 10:49, ^Goose^ said: how much of a match does a player have to play for it to count as first team match experience? Not a technical answers, but I feel that real development happens when you start affording players an entire half, game starts, and full games. Until then development is very slow and players can't find their feet on the pitch. So for me: how much of a match does a player have to play About 45 mins, followed by another 45 in the next 3 games, followed by a start in the next 3 games, followed by an entire couple of games in the next 4-5 games. Any less and you are not really developing youth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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