JulesMUFC Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Chelsea need an out and out striker, why would they buy Baptista an attacking midfielder/forward who isnt a great finisher?? Drogba is a better option than Baptista up front as they offer the same qualities but from different areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JulesMUFC: Chelsea need an out and out striker </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I dont think they do. I argued for years with a Chelsea fan friend of mine about this. Yes you need a striker who will get you a fair amount of goals, but it is far more vital that you have a midfield that chip in with 5-10 goals each over the season. Look at the championship winning teams of the last decade, they've all had goals from midfield. I dont think Chelsea really need this sort of player at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 28, 2005 Administrators Share Posted June 28, 2005 f*ck me, a sensible post from Rob in a Chelsea topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wycombe Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 you want someone up front who doesn't miss as many easy chances as Drogba does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 My posts about Kezman have been sensible all along, and are about to be proved correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueistheonlycolour Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Personally i feel Drogba needs to be given a second season as physically and with his heading ability he is perfect. Adriano or even Baptista would also be suitable as it allows for knock-downs that can bring in Frank, Duff and Robben when we break quickly from deep. I would really like to see us get Gerrard (unlikely) or Essien who along with Frank and Maka can really control the midfield allowing the wingers freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueistheonlycolour Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Just read that some Italian company called Ticino Hosting have bought Parma for £20m. Why didn't Roman buy them so we can get Gila and a few others like Bonera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal: My posts about Kezman have been sensible all along, and are about to be proved correct </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Nothing about what you said about Kezman is about to be proved correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wycombe Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I was right about Kezman, buying players who WBA are interested will never work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNFERNaL Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 apparently Chelsea is interested in Trezeguet.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JoeyM: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal: My posts about Kezman have been sensible all along, and are about to be proved correct </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Nothing about what you said about Kezman is about to be proved correct. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I said that Mourinho didnt fancy him and that he'd be off come the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 Him being off has nothing to do with mourinho not fancying him. He is and was a back-up to Drogba. He didn't like being in that position, so he's off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 So he put in an official transfer request? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 seems like the kezman switch to ath. madrid is done and dusted, which leaves the question have chelsea got a new striker set to sign or has crespo agreed to stay, because if not we could end up with only two strikers going into the new season the way things are going. If crespo stays that is all well and good, but something that chelsea fans havent taken into account is what if chelsea have already agreed to sign a striker in principle and are bideing there time to release the info so that it has maximum publicity? considering that we have been knocked back publicly a good 5 times so far, if we were to announce on friday that we say have signed gilardino (once jose had a word to persuade him to join us) for 25M that would get a lot of publicity in the press which is the kind of thing kenyon wants for the club, good publicity! (would make a change) long shot i know but im starting to worry that we may not get the 25 a season goalscorer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T!mbo Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Yeah. Boo to selling Kezman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal: So he put in an official transfer request? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Don't be pedantic. Did Crespo? Veron? Babayaro? etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beffrey Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I wonder where Carlton Cole fits into this jigsaw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I don't know, did they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 And strongcentreback - i'm sure we'll sign a striker. I'm not too worried about that, we have at least 3/4 weeks till our friendlies begin and another month after that before the season starts. There would be no way we'll start with DD and EG as our only 2 striker, especially since it is also apparent that EG can't play in that central striker role. Just be patient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal: I don't know, did they? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 and Kezman didnt either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JoeyM: And strongcentreback - i'm sure we'll sign a striker. I'm not too worried about that, we have at least 3/4 weeks till our friendlies begin and another month after that before the season starts. There would be no way we'll start with DD and EG as our only 2 striker, especially since it is also apparent that EG can't play in that central striker role. Just be patient. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> im sure we will sign a striker as well, but will they be of the calibre we need or will they be a rushed signing to give us cover. Heres something to mull over, benni mccarthy got linked earlier on in the summer than it went quiet, if jose is going to use drogba as the main striker for next season, he could be the player to sign as back up we would have no problems signing him as he wants a move, porto want to sell and he knows jose, never know with a bit of luck he could do the business for us and turn out to be a blessing in diguise, thoughts anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Senegal Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 So in conclusion He hasnt asked to leave, but the manager is more than happy to let him him go despite the fact he is currently scouring Europe looking for another forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 In conclusion, he didn't make an official transfer request - which DOESN'T mean that he doesn't want to leave - hence why I pointed out that Crespo, Veron and Baba hadn't made transfer requests either, despite them all wanting to leave. Geddit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 My money is on Owen signing. We wouldnt let the Kez go woithout knowing that we have a striker on the way and there's no way Johsay would panic buy. Owen's world renowned, proven at every level, (Note: Premiership) and readily available. According to Real Madrid's Lampard bid, he was offered as part of the deal, Owen, Solari, and £20m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chelseablue P.I.: My money is on Owen signing. We wouldnt let the Kez go woithout knowing that we have a striker on the way and there's no way Johsay would panic buy. Owen's world renowned, proven at every level, (Note: Premiership) and readily available. According to Real Madrid's Lampard bid, he was offered as part of the deal, Owen, Solari, and £20m. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> owen does sound like a pretty safe bet so far and real madrid are definately selling him this summer, so the question is how bigger a cheque do you think roman will have to write to get him? im going for 10M slight profit for madrid and a decent price for chelsea everyone is happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phas3r Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 kezman will do a forlan and end up as a golden boot winner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Should have kept Forrsell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LokedOut420 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by strong centreback: Heres something to mull over, benni mccarthy got linked earlier on in the summer than it went quiet, if jose is going to use drogba as the main striker for next season, he could be the player to sign as back up we would have no problems signing him as he wants a move, porto want to sell and he knows jose, never know with a bit of luck he could do the business for us and turn out to be a blessing in diguise, thoughts anyone </div></BLOCKQUOTE> SS had McCarthy linked to a Blackburn move a couple days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 josé like john hartson - PLEASE PLEASE SIGN HIM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">josé like john hartson - PLEASE PLEASE SIGN HIM </div></BLOCKQUOTE> please please jose dont sign him, no offence but he is aweful and is nothing near the quality chelsea need, anyway how do you know mourinho likes him as a player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 29, 2005 Administrators Share Posted June 29, 2005 Was reading on another Chelsea forum last night that a lad has a contact inside the club, fairly high profile (he said you'd know the name) who says we've had two or three deals done for a while but couldn't be announced until July time. Probably internet bawlocks, but still, it fits a bit with what we're doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by strong centreback: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">josé like john hartson - PLEASE PLEASE SIGN HIM </div></BLOCKQUOTE> please please jose dont sign him, no offence but he is aweful and is nothing near the quality chelsea need, anyway how do you know mourinho likes him as a player? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i know he's awful. that's why i want you to buy him! he's said a few times that hartson is a player he likes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueistheonlycolour Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Juni: Was reading on another Chelsea forum last night that a lad has a contact inside the club, fairly high profile (he said you'd know the name) who says we've had two or three deals done for a while but couldn't be announced until July time. Probably internet bawlocks, but still, it fits a bit with what we're doing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Please be SWP, Essien or Gerrard and Gila or Torres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMUFC Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Juni: Was reading on another Chelsea forum last night that a lad has a contact inside the club, fairly high profile (he said you'd know the name) who says we've had two or three deals done for a while but couldn't be announced until July time. Probably internet bawlocks, but still, it fits a bit with what we're doing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> there any names announced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 29, 2005 Administrators Share Posted June 29, 2005 No names, no. SWP was mentioned a lot in that topic though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
life is to short to be tak Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by beffrey: I wonder where Carlton Cole fits into this jigsaw. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well according to todays gossip column <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Carlton Cole is angling for a £2m move from Chelsea to Portsmouth. (Sun) </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueistheonlycolour Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Juni: Was reading on another Chelsea forum last night that a lad has a contact inside the club, fairly high profile (he said you'd know the name) who says we've had two or three deals done for a while but couldn't be announced until July time. Probably internet bawlocks, but still, it fits a bit with what we're doing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Do you remember which forum you were looking at as i wouldn't mind seeing it. Was it CFC-Net? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Daily Mail: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Chelsea open the door for Owen bid By SIMON CASS, Daily Mail 09:16am 29th June 2005 Chelsea have made an informal approach for Real Madrid striker Michael Owen. Representatives of the Premiership champions contacted Real yesterday to enquire about a price for the the England striker. While no bid was lodged, Chelsea were told that their £14million valuation Owen was £3m below the price Real would demand. Sportsmail revealed yesterday that Owen had spent the previous day viewing a series of Surrey properties close to Chelsea's new training base at Cobham. The fact that Chelsea have now spoken to Madrid will only add to the speculation that Owen is set for a return to the Premiership after just one season in Spain. Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has suffered a series of high-profile rejections in his search for a proven goalscorer. Atletico Madrid Enrique Cerezo president told them yesterday that they had no chance of signing Fernando Torres. Torres was reportedly the subject of an approach by Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon during a meeting with Atletico representatives last week to discuss Mateja Kezman's £5m move to Spain. While Kezman arrived in Madrid yesterday to discuss the details of his transfer, Cerezo said: "Roman Abramovich can forget about Torres." With players such as Inter Milan's Adriano and AC Milan's Andriy Shevchenko all out of reach, it appears that the combination of Owen's Premiership goal scoring feats for Liverpool, his availability and relatively modest price tag have convinced Mourinho to turn to a player who originally did not rank on his list of top targets. Despite Owen's 13 goals in 35 league games for Real, the Spanish media believe the 25-year-old striker is expendable as club president Florentino Perez launches a summer rebuilding programme following two barren campaigns. The arrival of Brazilian Robinho will increase the pressure for places in attack at the Bernabeu and Real might welcome the chance to double the £8m they paid Liverpool last season for Owen. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Strange that Owen would be house-hunting before we'd even been in contact with real.... hmmm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueistheonlycolour Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 According to that article Real want £17m for him having paid £8m, its almost like getting Bosmans on FM and selling them off for a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMUFC Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JoeyM: Strange that Owen would be house-hunting before we'd even been in contact with real.... hmmm.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE> 3 point deduction Looks like my uncle was correct, \o/. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Well, yeah. Let's face it - give a c*nt a punishment that's unlikely to teach him a lesson, and he'll continue to be a c*nt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNFERNaL Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 hmmmm i wonder if Carlos Alberto fits in the puzzle.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 How much was Kezman bought for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesrater Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jongi: How much was Kezman bought for? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> £5m iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Done and dusted - and we've actually made a profit - how strange. I was sure Kenyon's business plan was to buy big, and either sell small or give players away on loan! <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Kezman completes Madrid move by Tom Adams - created on 29 Jun 2005 Atletico Madrid have completed the signing of Chelsea striker Mateja Kezman in a £5.3 million deal. The Serbia & Montenegro international failed to make an impact at Stamford Bridge despite his sensational scoring record for PSV Eindhoven, and found himself out of favour under Blues boss Jose Mourinho. After travelling to Vicente Calderon for talks on Tuesday the 26-year-old has tied up all remaining loose ends with the London outfit and will look to rejuvenate his career in La Liga after signing a three-year deal. Kezman arrived in England in a £5million switch just last summer, and was full of confidence after claiming a remarkable 105 goals in 112 league starts for the Dutch giants. However, his time in The Premiership quickly soured as he found himself behind both Didier Drogba and Eidur Gudjohnsen in Mourinho's plans. Even a goal in the Carling Cup final victory over Liverpool could not kick-start his career with the Blues, and Mourinho has now decided to allow the striker to move on as he frees up space for new recruits. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 29, 2005 Administrators Share Posted June 29, 2005 We signed him for the exact same fee of £5.3m actually, iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaddick Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Juni: We signed him for the exact same fee of £5.3m actually, iirc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Have you seriously sold him for £5m That'll make me feel better if you have, surely they could have got him cheaper though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Really? Thought it was £5m. I can't actually remember, so I'll take your word for it. Either way, we didn't make a loss (wages not inc.) which may be a first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyM Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 Why would it make you feel better FM addick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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